wykikitoon 16763 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Last night the commentators were going mental at the ref and some of his bookings, I however applaud him on the booking for descent. Milner who you could clearly hear on TV shouting "No fucking way" at him even though it was the wrong decision, Martins acting like a mad man at another etc etc all IMO should be booked. Its about time the ref's in this country started to stamp down on this childish behaviour from highly paid "pros" Yay or Nay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Bridge 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Last night the commentators were going mental at the ref and some of his bookings, I however applaud him on the booking for descent. Milner who you could clearly hear on TV shouting "No fucking way" at him even though it was the wrong decision, Martins acting like a mad man at another etc etc all IMO should be booked. Its about time the ref's in this country started to stamp down on this childish behaviour from highly paid "pros" Yay or Nay? If the ref's did the job properly, players wouldn't swear at them. Both wrong decisions, both times, the referee/linesman, deserves an earful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 He was fussy but he was consistent I thought. To be fair to Joe Royle, he didn't go mental with him, rather he was mildly critical and he also said the players were daft for getting booked for dissent, especially after they'd had a chance to see what the ref was going to be like. The only crucial decision he got wrong was the pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16763 Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 Last night the commentators were going mental at the ref and some of his bookings, I however applaud him on the booking for descent. Milner who you could clearly hear on TV shouting "No fucking way" at him even though it was the wrong decision, Martins acting like a mad man at another etc etc all IMO should be booked. Its about time the ref's in this country started to stamp down on this childish behaviour from highly paid "pros" Yay or Nay? If the ref's did the job properly, players wouldn't swear at them. Both wrong decisions, both times, the referee/linesman, deserves an earful. It happens in both codes of Rugby and other sports, they are only human and the game is played at such a pace nowadays. I suppose its the consistancy, although he was consistant with the descent and not tackles etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Last night the commentators were going mental at the ref and some of his bookings, I however applaud him on the booking for descent. Milner who you could clearly hear on TV shouting "No fucking way" at him even though it was the wrong decision, Martins acting like a mad man at another etc etc all IMO should be booked. Its about time the ref's in this country started to stamp down on this childish behaviour from highly paid "pros" Yay or Nay? Did he sink into the turf or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16763 Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 Last night the commentators were going mental at the ref and some of his bookings, I however applaud him on the booking for descent. Milner who you could clearly hear on TV shouting "No fucking way" at him even though it was the wrong decision, Martins acting like a mad man at another etc etc all IMO should be booked. Its about time the ref's in this country started to stamp down on this childish behaviour from highly paid "pros" Yay or Nay? Did he sink into the turf or something? Dissent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1055 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I thought he was very fair for any incidents involving play bar the penalty decision. He was also consistent for the dissent - which he did no tolerate More refs need to be like this - avoiding cards for the slightest upset in play, just giving the free kick where req and coming down hard on dissent. As long as theyre consistent in this i have no problems with it. Too many just treat the ref like sh&t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Last night the commentators were going mental at the ref and some of his bookings, I however applaud him on the booking for descent. Milner who you could clearly hear on TV shouting "No fucking way" at him i though he shouted Fucking Wank! and it was very loud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Last night the commentators were going mental at the ref and some of his bookings, I however applaud him on the booking for descent. Milner who you could clearly hear on TV shouting "No fucking way" at him even though it was the wrong decision, Martins acting like a mad man at another etc etc all IMO should be booked. Its about time the ref's in this country started to stamp down on this childish behaviour from highly paid "pros" Yay or Nay? Did he sink into the turf or something? Dissent They should really call it that when someone gets booked for diving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16763 Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 Last night the commentators were going mental at the ref and some of his bookings, I however applaud him on the booking for descent. Milner who you could clearly hear on TV shouting "No fucking way" at him i though he shouted Fucking Wank! and it was very loud! Definatley no fucking way, it wasnt out too but we cant have players shouting stuff like that when so many kids are watching football today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Any suggestions on what footballers should shout when they are pissed off? "Good Lord" "Heavens above" "I pumped your lasses bangle last night" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16763 Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share Posted February 16, 2007 Any suggestions on what footballers should shout when they are pissed off? "Good Lord" "Heavens above" "I pumped your lasses bangle last night" They should try and take it on the chin, screaming and shouting aint gonna change the ref's mind is it? They are paid vast sums of money and should set a good example to the thousands of kids & adults that look upto them. 95% of other sports do it. Imagine if tennis players screamed out like footballers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 You could say he was fussy, but he was consistent and it was clear to both teams he wouldn't tolerate any "descent" so you only had yourself to blame for a booking after the first one. I had no problem with him, so he must have been allright! Football is about the only sport that really needs to sort this kind of shit out, but it never will. Look at the prem, the worst offenders (especially for mass dissent) are nearly always the top teams and the refs just bottle it every time and so it never changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 234 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 You could say he was fussy, but he was consistent and it was clear to both teams he wouldn't tolerate any "descent" so you only had yourself to blame for a booking after the first one. I had no problem with him, so he must have been allright! Football is about the only sport that really needs to sort this kind of shit out, but it never will. Look at the prem, the worst offenders (especially for mass dissent) are nearly always the top teams and the refs just bottle it every time and so it never changes. Perhaps in Britain, but over here the NBA and NFL are becoming dreadful. It's a trend across the board, IMO. It's not something that can continue to go on unchecked, and will reach a point where it will blow up in some fashion and force people to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 You could say he was fussy, but he was consistent and it was clear to both teams he wouldn't tolerate any "descent" so you only had yourself to blame for a booking after the first one. I had no problem with him, so he must have been allright! Football is about the only sport that really needs to sort this kind of shit out, but it never will. Look at the prem, the worst offenders (especially for mass dissent) are nearly always the top teams and the refs just bottle it every time and so it never changes. Perhaps in Britain, but over here the NBA and NFL are becoming dreadful. It's a trend across the board, IMO. It's not something that can continue to go on unchecked, and will reach a point where it will blow up in some fashion and force people to deal with it. I'm surprised, when i see NFL on tv there doesn't seem to be much of a problem and i thought it had always been good for such behaviour! Football will always be the worst though, its ingrained in the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 234 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 You could say he was fussy, but he was consistent and it was clear to both teams he wouldn't tolerate any "descent" so you only had yourself to blame for a booking after the first one. I had no problem with him, so he must have been allright! Football is about the only sport that really needs to sort this kind of shit out, but it never will. Look at the prem, the worst offenders (especially for mass dissent) are nearly always the top teams and the refs just bottle it every time and so it never changes. Perhaps in Britain, but over here the NBA and NFL are becoming dreadful. It's a trend across the board, IMO. It's not something that can continue to go on unchecked, and will reach a point where it will blow up in some fashion and force people to deal with it. I'm surprised, when i see NFL on tv there doesn't seem to be much of a problem and i thought it had always been good for such behaviour! Football will always be the worst though, its ingrained in the game! The NFL has done a LOT of work on it tbf. It's been a huge priority for them, and it's paid off quite a bit. The NBA though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoggeordie 0 Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Commentators mentioned he'd just come back from a 4 game ban for being too shit in his own league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16763 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Share Posted February 17, 2007 You could say he was fussy, but he was consistent and it was clear to both teams he wouldn't tolerate any "descent" so you only had yourself to blame for a booking after the first one. I had no problem with him, so he must have been allright! Football is about the only sport that really needs to sort this kind of shit out, but it never will. Look at the prem, the worst offenders (especially for mass dissent) are nearly always the top teams and the refs just bottle it every time and so it never changes. Aye it should have stopped seasons ago if we beleive the shite the FA tell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Referees are supposed to have powers to deal with mouthy players, either they're getting instructions from uptop not to use them or they're too afraid to. Despite all the FA's blathering, I suspect the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I don't think a frustrated exclamation is grounds for a booking. It's the heat of the moment. Dissent should be things like card waving, refusing to retreat at free kicks, or prolongued harranguing of referees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I don't think a frustrated exclamation is grounds for a booking. It's the heat of the moment. Dissent should be things like card waving, refusing to retreat at free kicks, or prolongued harranguing of referees. Neither do I, in principal. But when frustration turns into abuse I think referees should act. Football players are grown men, not little children. You don't see Michael Vaughan screaming 'what was that you cock' when he gets a dodgy LBW decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I don't think a frustrated exclamation is grounds for a booking. It's the heat of the moment. Dissent should be things like card waving, refusing to retreat at free kicks, or prolongued harranguing of referees. Neither do I, in principal. But when frustration turns into abuse I think referees should act. Football players are grown men, not little children. You don't see Michael Vaughan screaming 'what was that you cock' when he gets a dodgy LBW decision. Not sure it's a valid comparison due to the relative speeds at which decisions are made, and the games themselves are played. If football was more leisurely and decisions were made after a few seconds, then I doubt there would be the same level of frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 1 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I don't think a frustrated exclamation is grounds for a booking. It's the heat of the moment. Dissent should be things like card waving, refusing to retreat at free kicks, or prolongued harranguing of referees. Neither do I, in principal. But when frustration turns into abuse I think referees should act. Football players are grown men, not little children. You don't see Michael Vaughan screaming 'what was that you cock' when he gets a dodgy LBW decision. Not sure it's a valid comparison due to the relative speeds at which decisions are made, and the games themselves are played. If football was more leisurely and decisions were made after a few seconds, then I doubt there would be the same level of frustration. Another nonsense explanation to excuse the vile behaviour of footballers. Many fast bowlers charge in, bowl the ball at 90mph into the pads then instantly turns to the umpire and appeal. Many times the umpire will instantly say not out, despite it looking plumb. Yet despite the 'speed at which the decision is made', the bowler still manages to avoid questioning the parentege of the umpire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I don't think a frustrated exclamation is grounds for a booking. It's the heat of the moment. Dissent should be things like card waving, refusing to retreat at free kicks, or prolongued harranguing of referees. Neither do I, in principal. But when frustration turns into abuse I think referees should act. Football players are grown men, not little children. You don't see Michael Vaughan screaming 'what was that you cock' when he gets a dodgy LBW decision. Not sure it's a valid comparison due to the relative speeds at which decisions are made, and the games themselves are played. If football was more leisurely and decisions were made after a few seconds, then I doubt there would be the same level of frustration. Another nonsense explanation to excuse the vile behaviour of footballers. Many fast bowlers charge in, bowl the ball at 90mph into the pads then instantly turns to the umpire and appeal. Many times the umpire will instantly say not out, despite it looking plumb. Yet despite the 'speed at which the decision is made', the bowler still manages to avoid questioning the parentege of the umpire. Agree with that. There is absolutely no excusing the behaviour of some of the complete cocks who play football when compared to other sportsman. In sports like cricket and rugby, from day one as kids they are taught to respect the officials and the officials will also do their job of stamping down on any dissent if it should arrise. In football the players from day one act like spoilt brats and carry that through their careers, but ultimately the refs could stop it within weeks if they wanted and they never do. All it needs is for all refs to start dishing yellows out every time there is any dissent, and make sure they do it to the worst offenders usually found at the big teams (one of the main reasons refs won't do it and why the problem remains) and when the suspensions start hitting home managers will suddenly start making their playes shut their gobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Steve_Howey 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I don't think a frustrated exclamation is grounds for a booking. It's the heat of the moment. Dissent should be things like card waving, refusing to retreat at free kicks, or prolongued harranguing of referees. Neither do I, in principal. But when frustration turns into abuse I think referees should act. Football players are grown men, not little children. You don't see Michael Vaughan screaming 'what was that you cock' when he gets a dodgy LBW decision. Not sure it's a valid comparison due to the relative speeds at which decisions are made, and the games themselves are played. If football was more leisurely and decisions were made after a few seconds, then I doubt there would be the same level of frustration. Another nonsense explanation to excuse the vile behaviour of footballers. Many fast bowlers charge in, bowl the ball at 90mph into the pads then instantly turns to the umpire and appeal. Many times the umpire will instantly say not out, despite it looking plumb. Yet despite the 'speed at which the decision is made', the bowler still manages to avoid questioning the parentege of the umpire. Agree with that. There is absolutely no excusing the behaviour of some of the complete cocks who play football when compared to other sportsman. In sports like cricket and rugby, from day one as kids they are taught to respect the officials and the officials will also do their job of stamping down on any dissent if it should arrise. In football the players from day one act like spoilt brats and carry that through their careers, but ultimately the refs could stop it within weeks if they wanted and they never do. All it needs is for all refs to start dishing yellows out every time there is any dissent, and make sure they do it to the worst offenders usually found at the big teams (one of the main reasons refs won't do it and why the problem remains) and when the suspensions start hitting home managers will suddenly start making their playes shut their gobs. Having just watched the Man City game and over-heard 'pass it you fucking idiot' on the mic, I can't recall hearing the same during a cricket match Perhaps the differences in the 2 sports transcend both the players and spectators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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