Kinnear: you'll change your toon about Keegan

[Guest alex]

I can understand the view that Keegan might be to blame, or at least partly to blame. But actually wanting it to be the case and calling yourself a Newcastle fan at the same time? That I cannot comprehend.

[LeazesMag 0]

Kinnear's initial kudos for his honesty is now gone for me - the bloke is a useless, over-ambitious fuckwit. One of the best things about any possible sale will be getting this fucker's name removed from Newcastle United.

 

You mean you were happy with his honesty when you were agreeing with what he said, now he's dare to cast doubt that poor king Kev isn't the big victim that some like to think you don't want to hear it.

 

I hope these statements do come out and can't wait to see the reaction from the mongs who blindly back Keegan without knowing whats gone on if it does turn out that he's to blame for a lot of it.

 

no mention of the arseholes who advocated this DOF bollocks I see, and still do I take it

[Baggio 0]

I can understand the view that Keegan might be to blame, or at least partly to blame. But actually wanting it to be the case and calling yourself a Newcastle fan at the same time? That I cannot comprehend.

 

I know, shocking isn't it backing the club over an individual manager if he turns out to be in the wrong.

 

Perhaps I should be more of the opinion "I don't know what happened but I'll back Keegan 100% and boycoutt because of what he done for us over a decade ago" and then post that I've been crying while watching a youtube compilation. Jesus wept.

 

It'll be interesting to see your opinion if Keegan was in the wrong all along btw, alex.

[NJS 3981]

It'll be interesting to see your opinion if Keegan was in the wrong all along btw, alex.

 

There is no Keegan scenario that even you could think of that would excuse Ashley's tenure at the club.

[Fop 1]

I can understand the view that Keegan might be to blame, or at least partly to blame. But actually wanting it to be the case and calling yourself a Newcastle fan at the same time? That I cannot comprehend.

 

 

Yup.

 

 

And Keegan being to "blame" would only be him maybe becoming intractable (when he realised who Wise was bringing in and trying to ship out) and having a hissy fit at the end.... but so would any decent manager in the same circumstances (I can just see Ferguson or Wenger or Mourinho being perfectly accepting of having their best player and one of their best sold out from under them and being told who was coming in ).

 

Even Kinnear is saying the same things as Keegan and he's on ice about as thin as it can get contractually.

[Fop 1]

I can understand the view that Keegan might be to blame, or at least partly to blame. But actually wanting it to be the case and calling yourself a Newcastle fan at the same time? That I cannot comprehend.

 

I know, shocking isn't it backing the club over an individual manager if he turns out to be in the wrong.

 

Perhaps I should be more of the opinion "I don't know what happened but I'll back Keegan 100% and boycoutt because of what he done for us over a decade ago" and then post that I've been crying while watching a youtube compilation. Jesus wept.

 

It'll be interesting to see your opinion if Keegan was in the wrong all along btw, alex.

 

You keep saying that, but you never actually SAY WHAT KEEGAN WAS "WRONG" ABOUT?

[peasepud 59]

Kinnear's initial kudos for his honesty is now gone for me - the bloke is a useless, over-ambitious fuckwit. One of the best things about any possible sale will be getting this fucker's name removed from Newcastle United.

 

You mean you were happy with his honesty when you were agreeing with what he said, now he's dare to cast doubt that poor king Kev isn't the big victim that some like to think you don't want to hear it.

 

I hope these statements do come out and can't wait to see the reaction from the mongs who blindly back Keegan without knowing whats gone on if it does turn out that he's to blame for a lot of it.

 

Then again maybe the opposite will be proven and all the mongs who blindly believe some random rich twat, a casino running spiv and a dwarf ex-footballer will be on here admitting how wrong they were.

 

 

Somehow though I dont think we'll hear from you then.

[Baggio 0]

It'll be interesting to see your opinion if Keegan was in the wrong all along btw, alex.

 

There is no Keegan scenario that even you could think of that would excuse Ashley's tenure at the club.

 

Actually, I've not really got a problem with Ashley trying to build the club back up even if it does take time and would be happy with a slow but steady improvement year after year, I've also got no problem with them finding good deals rather than spending big money on shite players to appease the fans.

 

I also appreciate what he's done regarding our scouting system in that under Roeder we only had one scout at the club but now we've got people scouting for us in all different country's looking to bring in quality young players, that and the fact we're on a much stronger financial footing as well as having a far superior squad compared to when he bought the club 18 months back.

 

If we had bought Jonas for £12 million and sold Milner for half of what we did you would be commenting on how ambitious we've been in regards to spending money, similar to how people think we were great for having a massive net spend under Souness while ignoring that we got £4 million for one of our best players, letting another go out on loan with no chance of returning and spending over the top on wank like Luque.

 

Lets hope that whoever comes in next spends big money out of their own pocket every season and signs players of the quality of Jonas and Coloccini every window, that and jumping up to the top 5 within 18 months, otherwise I'll expect the same level of criticism directed at them.

[Baggio 0]

Kinnear's initial kudos for his honesty is now gone for me - the bloke is a useless, over-ambitious fuckwit. One of the best things about any possible sale will be getting this fucker's name removed from Newcastle United.

 

You mean you were happy with his honesty when you were agreeing with what he said, now he's dare to cast doubt that poor king Kev isn't the big victim that some like to think you don't want to hear it.

 

I hope these statements do come out and can't wait to see the reaction from the mongs who blindly back Keegan without knowing whats gone on if it does turn out that he's to blame for a lot of it.

 

Then again maybe the opposite will be proven and all the mongs who blindly believe some random rich twat, a casino running spiv and a dwarf ex-footballer will be on here admitting how wrong they were.

 

 

Somehow though I dont think we'll hear from you then.

 

Not at all, if it turns out Keegan's done nothing wrong then I'll happily admit I'm wrong, perhaps if your pressure group get to meet him then they might find out the truth.

[Fop 1]

It'll be interesting to see your opinion if Keegan was in the wrong all along btw, alex.

 

There is no Keegan scenario that even you could think of that would excuse Ashley's tenure at the club.

 

Actually, I've not really got a problem with Ashley trying to build the club back up even if it does take time and would be happy with a slow but steady improvement year after year, I've also got no problem with them finding good deals rather than spending big money on shite players to appease the fans.

 

I also appreciate what he's done regarding our scouting system in that under Roeder we only had one scout at the club but now we've got people scouting for us in all different country's looking to bring in quality young players, that and the fact we're on a much stronger financial footing as well as having a far superior squad compared to when he bought the club 18 months back.

 

If we had bought Jonas for £12 million and sold Milner for half of what we did you would be commenting on how ambitious we've been in regards to spending money, similar to how people think we were great for having a massive net spend under Souness while ignoring that we got £4 million for one of our best players, letting another go out on loan with no chance of returning and spending over the top on wank like Luque.

 

Lets hope that whoever comes in next spends big money out of their own pocket every season and signs players of the quality of Jonas and Coloccini every window, that and jumping up to the top 5 within 18 months, otherwise I'll expect the same level of criticism directed at them.

 

 

Yes, because a £0 transfer fund really has resulted in a slow and steady build up. More to the point if he'd managed to sell Owen and Barton at the last second he'd have more cash in his champagne fund, and we'd have an even thinner squad than we currently do.

 

How you defend the current set up is beyond me, at best it was well meaning, but staffed with muppets, at worst it was cynical profiteering.

 

 

And still you haven't said what Keegan did "wrong".

[Fop 1]

Kinnear's initial kudos for his honesty is now gone for me - the bloke is a useless, over-ambitious fuckwit. One of the best things about any possible sale will be getting this fucker's name removed from Newcastle United.

 

You mean you were happy with his honesty when you were agreeing with what he said, now he's dare to cast doubt that poor king Kev isn't the big victim that some like to think you don't want to hear it.

 

I hope these statements do come out and can't wait to see the reaction from the mongs who blindly back Keegan without knowing whats gone on if it does turn out that he's to blame for a lot of it.

 

Then again maybe the opposite will be proven and all the mongs who blindly believe some random rich twat, a casino running spiv and a dwarf ex-footballer will be on here admitting how wrong they were.

 

 

Somehow though I dont think we'll hear from you then.

 

Not at all, if it turns out Keegan's done nothing wrong then I'll happily admit I'm wrong, perhaps if your pressure group get to meet him then they might find out the truth.

 

 

 

Again WHAT do you think Keegan did "wrong"?

[peasepud 59]

Not at all, if it turns out Keegan's done nothing wrong then I'll happily admit I'm wrong, perhaps if your pressure group get to meet him then they might find out the truth.

 

I think its highly unlikely that fat Mike will tell us anything like that dont you?

 

Still I'll send him your regards while Im there although Im sure you'll no doubt be swapping Christmas cards again this year (I hear his card list is nearly as small as yours these days)

[Asprilla 96]

This isn't a black or white issue (excuse the pun) as none of us know the whole story.

 

 

All we can do is voice our opinions.

 

 

I am disappointed that Keegan allowed us to believe all was well for so long, even though clearly it wasn't.

 

I'm disappointed that he walked out on us leaving the club in freefall without explanation.

 

 

The fact is, we are now in a worse postion than we were at the start of the season and Keegan is partly to blame even taking into account the ludicrous behaviour of Ashley and the board.

 

 

I am no fan of Ashley, I think his lack of communication is equally gutless but he has no reputation to lose. Keegan on the other hand must know that the fans are hurting but is thinking more about a payoff than the fans he left behind.

 

 

If it turns out that there is some cast iron reason that he can't speak to us, and manages to come back and sort things out in some way, of course I won't hold a grudge. I don't want to see the club fail and I will have no problem admitting I was wrong if it turns out that Keegan was entirely blameless.

[Baggio 0]

It'll be interesting to see your opinion if Keegan was in the wrong all along btw, alex.

 

There is no Keegan scenario that even you could think of that would excuse Ashley's tenure at the club.

 

Actually, I've not really got a problem with Ashley trying to build the club back up even if it does take time and would be happy with a slow but steady improvement year after year, I've also got no problem with them finding good deals rather than spending big money on shite players to appease the fans.

 

I also appreciate what he's done regarding our scouting system in that under Roeder we only had one scout at the club but now we've got people scouting for us in all different country's looking to bring in quality young players, that and the fact we're on a much stronger financial footing as well as having a far superior squad compared to when he bought the club 18 months back.

 

If we had bought Jonas for £12 million and sold Milner for half of what we did you would be commenting on how ambitious we've been in regards to spending money, similar to how people think we were great for having a massive net spend under Souness while ignoring that we got £4 million for one of our best players, letting another go out on loan with no chance of returning and spending over the top on wank like Luque.

 

Lets hope that whoever comes in next spends big money out of their own pocket every season and signs players of the quality of Jonas and Coloccini every window, that and jumping up to the top 5 within 18 months, otherwise I'll expect the same level of criticism directed at them.

 

 

Yes, because a £0 transfer fund really has resulted in a slow and steady build up. More to the point if he'd managed to sell Owen and Barton at the last second he'd have more cash in his champagne fund, and we'd have an even thinner squad than we currently do.

 

How you defend the current set up is beyond me, at best it was well meaning, but staffed with muppets, at worst it was cynical profiteering.

 

 

And still you haven't said what Keegan did "wrong".

 

This is what Kinnear meant by the press not having a clue what really went on, yet idiots like yourself are happy to believe that the club tried to sell Owen and Barton because it suits your agenda.

[peasepud 59]

This is what Kinnear meant by the press not having a clue what really went on, yet idiots like yourself are happy to believe that the club tried to sell Owen and Barton because it suits your agenda.

 

Yet you're happy to believe that a caretaker manager has access to the kind of shit he alludes to, nobody else does so why on earth would Fat Mike take Kinnear to one side and tell him all the goings on?

 

[Baggio 0]

Baggio you do talk some utter guff at times...

 

the scouting setup being one of the best lines you've came out with in ages

have you seen the state of our squad considering what it was like when they arrived and now with the time they had to bring players in

young old or otherwise since starting work in January by the end of the summer they had managed...

2 starting players (jonas and colo),

a young left back who will get on now and again in various positions along the backline (bassong)

Gutherie, who will do well eventually but really shouldn't be a starting midfielder currently

a semi injured onloan centre midfielder who could only manage 5 apperances in a mediocre french side (monaco), and a 0apps for Valencia who nearly got relelgated..

and then spent 5m on Xisco, a spanish version of Ameobi...

 

Far superior squad

 

catch a fucking grip our squads still small and shite and bar the two Argentinian signings the other players are of bit-part caliber or lower currently

 

 

Since Ashley and co tookover, one of they're biggest failings by far has been the scoutings and transfers into the club

(great business making money by selling players and clearing some of the deadwood though, which isn't a surprise since ashley loves his money)

 

I said superior compared to what it was when he bought the club, so most of that post is a waste of time.

 

As for catching a grip, do what most of your fellow fenian fuckpigs do and start supporting Sunderland instead if you don't like it.

[peasepud 59]

Baggio you do talk some utter guff at times...

 

the scouting setup being one of the best lines you've came out with in ages

have you seen the state of our squad considering what it was like when they arrived and now with the time they had to bring players in

young old or otherwise since starting work in January by the end of the summer they had managed...

2 starting players (jonas and colo),

a young left back who will get on now and again in various positions along the backline (bassong)

Gutherie, who will do well eventually but really shouldn't be a starting midfielder currently

a semi injured onloan centre midfielder who could only manage 5 apperances in a mediocre french side (monaco), and a 0apps for Valencia who nearly got relelgated..

and then spent 5m on Xisco, a spanish version of Ameobi...

 

Far superior squad

 

catch a fucking grip our squads still small and shite and bar the two Argentinian signings the other players are of bit-part caliber or lower currently

 

 

Since Ashley and co tookover, one of they're biggest failings by far has been the scoutings and transfers into the club

(great business making money by selling players and clearing some of the deadwood though, which isn't a surprise since ashley loves his money)

 

I said superior compared to what it was when he bought the club, so most of that post is a waste of time.

 

As for catching a grip, do what most of your fellow fenian fuckpigs do and start supporting Sunderland instead if you don't like it.

 

And for that Im happily putting your posts on moderation for 2 hours. We put it plainly and simply in a post a while ago, racial or threatening behaviour will result in a moderation period. Any more and you're banned. We're not N-O but we're not some sectarian do as you please either.

 

Edit: and heres the original post just so that you can refer to it when you slag me off

http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...c=21091&hl=

[Rob97 0]

JK's comments on the buy out are starting to sound a bit like the ramblings of a drunk. They all seem a bit "they might do this... or they might not"... " we might buy some players, or we might not, I dont know, yor guess is as good as mine"

 

How the hell are these kinds of comments contructive to our current predicament

[Fop 1]

It'll be interesting to see your opinion if Keegan was in the wrong all along btw, alex.

 

There is no Keegan scenario that even you could think of that would excuse Ashley's tenure at the club.

 

Actually, I've not really got a problem with Ashley trying to build the club back up even if it does take time and would be happy with a slow but steady improvement year after year, I've also got no problem with them finding good deals rather than spending big money on shite players to appease the fans.

 

I also appreciate what he's done regarding our scouting system in that under Roeder we only had one scout at the club but now we've got people scouting for us in all different country's looking to bring in quality young players, that and the fact we're on a much stronger financial footing as well as having a far superior squad compared to when he bought the club 18 months back.

 

If we had bought Jonas for £12 million and sold Milner for half of what we did you would be commenting on how ambitious we've been in regards to spending money, similar to how people think we were great for having a massive net spend under Souness while ignoring that we got £4 million for one of our best players, letting another go out on loan with no chance of returning and spending over the top on wank like Luque.

 

Lets hope that whoever comes in next spends big money out of their own pocket every season and signs players of the quality of Jonas and Coloccini every window, that and jumping up to the top 5 within 18 months, otherwise I'll expect the same level of criticism directed at them.

 

 

Yes, because a £0 transfer fund really has resulted in a slow and steady build up. More to the point if he'd managed to sell Owen and Barton at the last second he'd have more cash in his champagne fund, and we'd have an even thinner squad than we currently do.

 

How you defend the current set up is beyond me, at best it was well meaning, but staffed with muppets, at worst it was cynical profiteering.

 

 

And still you haven't said what Keegan did "wrong".

 

This is what Kinnear meant by the press not having a clue what really went on, yet idiots like yourself are happy to believe that the club tried to sell Owen and Barton because it suits your agenda.

 

It's been widely reported that they both were.

 

 

Where as UTTER FUCKING MORONS like yourself keep saying Keegan did "something" wrong yet are utterly unable for say what.

[Fop 1]

I said superior compared to what it was when he bought the club, so most of that post is a waste of time.

 

As for catching a grip, do what most of your fellow fenian fuckpigs do and start supporting Sunderland instead if you don't like it.

 

 

I see so we're in a "superior" position now to when he bought the club are we?

 

 

 

In exactly what way?

 

Or is this the mythical and non-existent "Keegan has done something wrong" way?

[LeazesMag 0]

I can understand the view that Keegan might be to blame, or at least partly to blame. But actually wanting it to be the case and calling yourself a Newcastle fan at the same time? That I cannot comprehend.

 

I know, shocking isn't it backing the club over an individual manager if he turns out to be in the wrong.

 

Perhaps I should be more of the opinion "I don't know what happened but I'll back Keegan 100% and boycoutt because of what he done for us over a decade ago" and then post that I've been crying while watching a youtube compilation. Jesus wept.

 

It'll be interesting to see your opinion if Keegan was in the wrong all along btw, alex.

 

you're just like thickmick on Newcastle Online. Defending the indefensible which in your case is your DOF bollocks. What a couple of pricks you both are.

[LeazesMag 0]

Kinnear's initial kudos for his honesty is now gone for me - the bloke is a useless, over-ambitious fuckwit. One of the best things about any possible sale will be getting this fucker's name removed from Newcastle United.

 

You mean you were happy with his honesty when you were agreeing with what he said, now he's dare to cast doubt that poor king Kev isn't the big victim that some like to think you don't want to hear it.

 

I hope these statements do come out and can't wait to see the reaction from the mongs who blindly back Keegan without knowing whats gone on if it does turn out that he's to blame for a lot of it.

 

Then again maybe the opposite will be proven and all the mongs who blindly believe some random rich twat, a casino running spiv and a dwarf ex-footballer will be on here admitting how wrong they were.

 

 

Somehow though I dont think we'll hear from you then.

 

like some others, mostly on NO, he just won't admit that he's been completely wrong mate.

 

What a bunch of tossers.

[LeazesMag 0]

Kinnear's initial kudos for his honesty is now gone for me - the bloke is a useless, over-ambitious fuckwit. One of the best things about any possible sale will be getting this fucker's name removed from Newcastle United.

 

You mean you were happy with his honesty when you were agreeing with what he said, now he's dare to cast doubt that poor king Kev isn't the big victim that some like to think you don't want to hear it.

 

I hope these statements do come out and can't wait to see the reaction from the mongs who blindly back Keegan without knowing whats gone on if it does turn out that he's to blame for a lot of it.

 

Then again maybe the opposite will be proven and all the mongs who blindly believe some random rich twat, a casino running spiv and a dwarf ex-footballer will be on here admitting how wrong they were.

 

 

Somehow though I dont think we'll hear from you then.

 

Not at all, if it turns out Keegan's done nothing wrong then I'll happily admit I'm wrong, perhaps if your pressure group get to meet him then they might find out the truth.

 

 

 

Again WHAT do you think Keegan did "wrong"?

 

 

haha, the thickmick and ozzie syndrome of avoiding replying is catching

 

He doesn't know mate he;s just trying to look good for effect

[LeazesMag 0]

It'll be interesting to see your opinion if Keegan was in the wrong all along btw, alex.

 

There is no Keegan scenario that even you could think of that would excuse Ashley's tenure at the club.

 

Actually, I've not really got a problem with Ashley trying to build the club back up even if it does take time and would be happy with a slow but steady improvement year after year, I've also got no problem with them finding good deals rather than spending big money on shite players to appease the fans.

 

I also appreciate what he's done regarding our scouting system in that under Roeder we only had one scout at the club but now we've got people scouting for us in all different country's looking to bring in quality young players, that and the fact we're on a much stronger financial footing as well as having a far superior squad compared to when he bought the club 18 months back.

 

If we had bought Jonas for £12 million and sold Milner for half of what we did you would be commenting on how ambitious we've been in regards to spending money, similar to how people think we were great for having a massive net spend under Souness while ignoring that we got £4 million for one of our best players, letting another go out on loan with no chance of returning and spending over the top on wank like Luque.

 

Lets hope that whoever comes in next spends big money out of their own pocket every season and signs players of the quality of Jonas and Coloccini every window, that and jumping up to the top 5 within 18 months, otherwise I'll expect the same level of criticism directed at them.

 

 

Yes, because a £0 transfer fund really has resulted in a slow and steady build up. More to the point if he'd managed to sell Owen and Barton at the last second he'd have more cash in his champagne fund, and we'd have an even thinner squad than we currently do.

 

How you defend the current set up is beyond me, at best it was well meaning, but staffed with muppets, at worst it was cynical profiteering.

 

 

And still you haven't said what Keegan did "wrong".

 

This is what Kinnear meant by the press not having a clue what really went on, yet idiots like yourself are happy to believe that the club tried to sell Owen and Barton because it suits your agenda.

 

As things stand, Owen is leaving, you fool. And that is not an agenda neither is it made up.

[LeazesMag 0]

Baggio you do talk some utter guff at times...

 

the scouting setup being one of the best lines you've came out with in ages

have you seen the state of our squad considering what it was like when they arrived and now with the time they had to bring players in

young old or otherwise since starting work in January by the end of the summer they had managed...

2 starting players (jonas and colo),

a young left back who will get on now and again in various positions along the backline (bassong)

Gutherie, who will do well eventually but really shouldn't be a starting midfielder currently

a semi injured onloan centre midfielder who could only manage 5 apperances in a mediocre french side (monaco), and a 0apps for Valencia who nearly got relelgated..

and then spent 5m on Xisco, a spanish version of Ameobi...

 

Far superior squad

 

catch a fucking grip our squads still small and shite and bar the two Argentinian signings the other players are of bit-part caliber or lower currently

 

 

Since Ashley and co tookover, one of they're biggest failings by far has been the scoutings and transfers into the club

(great business making money by selling players and clearing some of the deadwood though, which isn't a surprise since ashley loves his money)

 

I said superior compared to what it was when he bought the club, so most of that post is a waste of time.

 

As for catching a grip, do what most of your fellow fenian fuckpigs do and start supporting Sunderland instead if you don't like it.

 

haha, Baggy on the verge of hoying his toys out of his pram again, just like he criticises Keegan for doing