Craig 6306 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Whether you agree about their ideologies or not, everyone has the right to their own political opinion and what's more, they reserve the right not to disclose it if they wish. The fact that the membership has been disclosed in full to the public is a disgrace. The fact that addresses and telephone numbers have been included is absolutely astonishing and IMO, grounds for sueing. I don't subscribe to the views of the BNP, but this is wrong. It's an invasion of privacy and breach of human rights. Being posted on the internet, the source should be quickly traced and if the some of the people 'named' are police, I expect this to be indentified pretty damned quick. Incidentally I find it ironically hilarious that Griffin wants to use the human rights act to protect the identity of the members despite the fact he's vehementally against the legislation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 time those fascist swine were outed - if they have nothing to hide why are they all so upset? They KNOW they're unpleasant violent sociopaths - to me they are in the same class as paedophiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 http://wikileaks.org/leak/bnp-membership-list.txt For anyone still wanting to check it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17771 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 It's blatently clear members of the BNP feel stigmatised like, why is that? If it's just a normal political party, why object to the public knowing you belong to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6306 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Don't you think they reserve the right to disclose that info though? Like I said, I don't agree with their ideologies but they are entitled to withold knowledge of their membership if they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6306 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 time those fascist swine were outed - if they have nothing to hide why are they all so upset? They KNOW they're unpleasant violent sociopaths - to me they are in the same class as paedophiles you truly are a fucking idiot! Talk about tarring all the same people with one brush - i'm pretty sure there will be members of the party who have decent social upstanding. Just because some of their views differ to yours and mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17771 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Don't you think they reserve the right to disclose that info though? Like I said, I don't agree with their ideologies but they are entitled to withold knowledge of their membership if they wish. Absolutely agree this is an unfair invasion of their privacy. Some of their reactions speaks volumes though imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6306 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Don't you think they reserve the right to disclose that info though? Like I said, I don't agree with their ideologies but they are entitled to withold knowledge of their membership if they wish. Absolutely agree this is an unfair invasion of their privacy. Some of their reactions speaks volumes though imo. I think the reactions you alude to are born out of the realisation of how they are percieved in some quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 aye they just believe in oppressing people of different races, installing gas chambers and the like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6306 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 aye they just believe in oppressing people of different races, installing gas chambers and the like I suppose you believe all Germans wanted the Jews dead as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3978 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 It is a very lefty/student stance to want to ban them and not one I hold - I think we should be able to laugh at their stupidity and if necessary kick the shit out of them as well. I agree with the privacy issue but it's funny how members of an organisation which is all about "pride" are so ashamed to admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6306 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 It's more the disclosure of personal info (addresses, phone numbers and emails) which I disagree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3978 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 It's more the disclosure of personal info (addresses, phone numbers and emails) which I disagree with. Certainly - but the angle taken by the media seems to be "My God there are "decent" people on the list" which would seem obvious to me - it's like when they were surprised that football hooligans weren't all dole scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/nov/19/bnp-list I do find this bit funny mind. A BNP spokesman, Simon Darby, said: "If we find out the name of the person who published this list it will turn out to be one of the most foolish things they have done in their life." Griffin insisted this did not represent a threat of violence but the reality that the person faced prison for breaching a high court injunction. The BNP leader admitted the party was relying on the Human Rights Act, based on EU legislation, which it opposes, to try to protect the privacy of its members. So Simon, what you're saying is that you dont believe in the Human Rights Act or EU legislation until you need it. Nice concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I had a look out of curiosity and there's two. One owns a business and is quite wealthy. However it has nothing to do with me, people should be allowed to make a choice - even if it's a bit of a racist one. Too right. People walk around with fucking fidel castro t shirts and all that lefty bollox as though it is something to be proud of. Just because you are BNP (I am not) it doesnt make you hitler. No, it just makes you a fucking idiot. No it doesn't it makes you someone with different ideologies that support a perfectly legal British Party. You can join the communist party and no one bats an eye lid. Be in the slightest bit nationalistic and you are hung out to dry. Disgrace IMO. It makes them an idiot because if they knew even the slightest bit about politics they'd realise straight away that the BNP's manifesto is pie in the sky and their policies are completely unworkable. It's more madcap than the average shite put out by the main political party to coax in the floating voters. If people join the party knowing this then you've got to ask what their real motivation is. The BNP is a fascist party with racist policies masquerading as a nationalist party. Where as communism is a proven hit. Of course it doesn't fit with today's society but it is peoples right to join a part without having their identity revealed by some lefty trouble maker. If someone on this list gets a letter bomb the owner of that blog should be complicit. Did I say communism was workable? Why do you assume it's the work of a lefty when even the BNP have blamed it on an annoyed former member? The BNP and NF use a website called Redwatch to promote attacks on 'Reds' so they had it coming to them. All Im saying is that all extremes are unworkable. As for redwatch, they only go after the top bods, not everyday members. You clearly weren't. You were having a go at the left while bemoaning the fact nationalism gets you named and shamed. You were very close to defending the BNP. Redwatch is full of images of everyday people who do something which they judge slightly Marxist. They've got the pictures and details of some students from Northumbria University who's only crime was selling some copies of the Socialist Worker. Top bods my arse so fucking what if he's defending the BNP, if thats what he wants to do [which he isn't and what you say is nothing other than the usual rabid anger of an obsessed left winger]. Typical left winger, believe in freedom of speech but only if you agree with it. If you think the extreme right are tosspots, then the extreme left are too. At the end of the day, we don't have a duty to look after the rest of the world and give them a home to our own detriment. If they want to come here, but not observe our laws, cultures and instead want to enforce their own on us they can fuck off. Correct, and we're not. Only in the eyes of the Daily Mail and Daily Express are we doing that. If they're going to come here, sit on benefits and contribute nothing then we should ship them out. The same goes for the British citizens who do exactly the same. If you're not going to pay your way then i've no time for you, it doesn't matter whether you're brown, black, yellow, white, green, orange or purple. But this thread isn't about multi-culturalism. It's about the BNP being fascist bigots, which they are. If you want to support a nationalist party then go UKIP or English Democrats. If you want to support a rascist party then go BNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3603 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 No sympathy from me- If you are willing ti join the bnp you deserve everything you get. I think it is fantastic thaty this list is published and I wish shame and harrasment on anybody on it. The more people who lose their jobs the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/nov/19/bnp-list I do find this bit funny mind. A BNP spokesman, Simon Darby, said: "If we find out the name of the person who published this list it will turn out to be one of the most foolish things they have done in their life." Griffin insisted this did not represent a threat of violence but the reality that the person faced prison for breaching a high court injunction. The BNP leader admitted the party was relying on the Human Rights Act, based on EU legislation, which it opposes, to try to protect the privacy of its members. So Simon, what you're saying is that you dont believe in the Human Rights Act or EU legislation until you need it. Nice concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 BNP are about as radical as beans on toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Among the best members have to be this lil beauty from Somerset Report 2/8/07: member describes himself as a witch: potential embarrassment if active and the one who has cancelled his membership because he 'objects to being told not to wear a bomber jacket' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Among the best members have to be this lil beauty from Somerset Report 2/8/07: member describes himself as a witch: potential embarrassment if active and the one who has cancelled his membership because he 'objects to being told not to wear a bomber jacket' It's like an 80's time warp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 "Mr PanzavecchiaWill not be renewing 07 (BNP is "doing nothing to help me")" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 time those fascist swine were outed - if they have nothing to hide why are they all so upset? They KNOW they're unpleasant violent sociopaths - to me they are in the same class as paedophiles They have nothing to hide. Put your address up on the internet Rob. This bloke I know not a friend, more a friend of a friend, had chinkies and pizza's delivered and abusive phone calls all night last night as a result of this. It's a disgrace these people who stand for the same principles (on the face of it), I do, should be treat like this. If more people were like them, we'll never have a muslim government, as things stand, we will have, not today, not tomorrow, but it will happen. These muslim fanatics could now go to peoples houses and fuckin take liberties as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 It's blatently clear members of the BNP feel stigmatised like, why is that? If it's just a normal political party, why object to the public knowing you belong to it? Because the system and media at large has told you what is right and what is wrong, that system has told you it's wrong to be associated with the BNP and as such members are treat by the public at large wiuth scorn. If the media wanted you to believe they were good, you would believe it, 95% of people are monkeys and are drawn in by the endless propaganda they see every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stevie Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Don't you think they reserve the right to disclose that info though? Like I said, I don't agree with their ideologies but they are entitled to withold knowledge of their membership if they wish. Absolutely agree this is an unfair invasion of their privacy. Some of their reactions speaks volumes though imo. I think the reactions you alude to are born out of the realisation of how they are percieved in some quarters. Exactly....and this fucking Rob is a wanker, on about Gas Chambers now. Fucking incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Stevies frothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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