Douggy B 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 That's completely true though, Wise and therefore Lambrusco and ultimately Ashley (as they could have stopped it) caused it all. How do you know its true. The truth will out at the court case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 That's completely true though, Wise and therefore Lambrusco and ultimately Ashley (as they could have stopped it) caused it all. How do you know its true. The truth will out at the court case. Fop knows. Plus the things that happened around Kinnear and Shearer pretty much up hold what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) Jimbo ...the training sessions open tommorrow ..why not go down and ask Shearer what he thinks of Shays honesty? Go on i dare you : ) Is Shay here now toughing it out ? no, he's off with the Man City millionaire also-rans, that tells you everything you need to know, you want to talk about loyalty and honesty ? ask Steve Harper, go on, I dare you. Steve Harper said he would have left if Spurs bid for him had been accepted, he was/is no more loyal than Shay imo. Both are loyal players overall obviously as they spent the vast majority of their careers with us. Edited April 6, 2009 by TicTacWoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I'll keep this simple because some people seem to be getting confused, for the record, I support Newcastle United Football Club, not one individual past or present. Answer the following question, and to keep it easy I'll limit the answer to just two alternatives: Shay Given handing in a transfer request and signing for Manchester City in January: Good or bad for Newcastle United this season ???? "G" for good, or "B" for bad ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordiejihad 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 Youve missed the point Jimbo ..the point is ..whose fault is it ? Answer Ashley & co ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I'll keep this simple because some people seem to be getting confused, for the record, I support Newcastle United Football Club, not one individual past or present. Answer the following question, and to keep it easy I'll limit the answer to just two alternatives: Shay Given handing in a transfer request and signing for Manchester City in January: Good or bad for Newcastle United this season ???? "G" for good, or "B" for bad ?? Of course bad in regards this season, that to me does not taint the previous years of fantastic service he gave us. Questioning his loyalty is unfair, yes he took the opportunity to leave in the end when he felt enough was enough, but as I said Harper said he would have done the same, a man you seem to feel is the epitome of loyalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Youve missed the point Jimbo ..the point is ..whose fault is it ? Answer Ashley & co ..... No, its just you have avoided the question, Ashley, Llambias and Wise's guilt is not in question, it is the other parties involvement which people seem to have a problem identifying. Was a two option answer too hard ? Shay stropping off in January, good or bad for us ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I'll keep this simple because some people seem to be getting confused, for the record, I support Newcastle United Football Club, not one individual past or present. Answer the following question, and to keep it easy I'll limit the answer to just two alternatives: Shay Given handing in a transfer request and signing for Manchester City in January: Good or bad for Newcastle United this season ???? "G" for good, or "B" for bad ?? Of course bad in regards this season, that to me does not taint the previous years of fantastic service he gave us. Questioning his loyalty is unfair, yes he took the opportunity to leave in the end when he felt enough was enough, but as I said Harper said he would have done the same, a man you seem to feel is the epitome of loyalty. Where are you from again ??? You are talking out your passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordiejihad 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 Actually Jimbo why dont you ask Steve Harper ? He'd give the same response as Shearer , Sir Bob etc ..why ? Because hes a fuckin professional footballer and knows better than you : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordiejihad 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 PS dont be knockin peoples whereabouts when youre in Serbia via fuckin Lowestoft !!! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I'll keep this simple because some people seem to be getting confused, for the record, I support Newcastle United Football Club, not one individual past or present. Answer the following question, and to keep it easy I'll limit the answer to just two alternatives: Shay Given handing in a transfer request and signing for Manchester City in January: Good or bad for Newcastle United this season ???? "G" for good, or "B" for bad ?? Of course bad in regards this season, that to me does not taint the previous years of fantastic service he gave us. Questioning his loyalty is unfair, yes he took the opportunity to leave in the end when he felt enough was enough, but as I said Harper said he would have done the same, a man you seem to feel is the epitome of loyalty. Where are you from again ??? You are talking out your passport. What did I say that doesn't make sense to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bob Almighty! 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Geordiejihad = dannyb tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Actually Jimbo why dont you ask Steve Harper ? He'd give the same response as Shearer , Sir Bob etc ..why ? Because hes a fuckin professional footballer and knows better than you : ) Is Shay Given battling it out against relegation with us or is he lapping up the Arab wages at City ?? It seems some people seem to be supporters of Shay Given United rather than Newcastle United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordiejihad 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 NB notice you never answered my question but set up a rather poor straw man argument wherein you give the choices ... nice try but no cigar kiddo : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordiejihad 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 It seems some people support Ashley rather than NUFC : ) Fuck you two can play that game : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicTacWoe 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) And regarding asking Steve Harper about loyalty, this is what he said in early February "I was flattered Tottenham put an offer in for me and if the club had accepted that, it's unlikely I would be here now." Don't get me wrong, I like Harper, and he has been very loyal but very few players are as loyal as Shearer/Le Tissier and in those cases they were both locals. Edited April 6, 2009 by TicTacWoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 NB notice you never answered my question but set up a rather poor straw man argument wherein you give the choices ... nice try but no cigar kiddo : ) What the fuck are you on about ????? Do you think Shay Given leaving had a good impact on our season. Good or Fucking bad ? how fucking easy do you want me to make it ? shall I draw you a fucking picture ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bob Almighty! 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 It seems some people support Ashley rather than NUFC : ) Fuck you two can play that game : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordiejihad 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 And you still miss th real point ..which is ...whos to blame? I'll give you two choices here ...A Blame Ashley B blame Shay ...come ahead answer the fucking question : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Jimbo's answered that question many times over it's plain Ashley & co is at fault but people like Given are hardly exempt the guy ditched us like a bad habit and didn't do it in a professional manner at all he whinged on like a spoilt brat till we accepted a bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordiejihad 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 So far he hasnt answered the question at all ...lets see the fucker try though : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawan 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) Geordieijihad What a character, you cant be real, Jimbo has plain and simply stated that its the Cockney Mafia thats at fault for the calamity of this season, but what hes trying to say is that individuals like Shay Given haven't exactly helped the club's situation. How do you think the other players felt when Given left? Do you really think they would have been happy? the question is easy to answer, NO. As for asking Shearer, Kev and Sir Bobby, the way you go on about them seems like you get on with them canny well and have had long conversations with them about certain individuals, give iz their phone numbers or something I'll be more than happy to ask. Or when you next speak to them send my regards Edited April 6, 2009 by bawan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 752 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 Ashley the one and only man responsible for this. All others (Llambias, Wise, Kinnear, Keegan and Given) are fruit of the poisonous tree. Ashley is the owner, he is responsible for hiring the first four listed and their mismanagement is responsible for the fifth's strop, and so the buck ultimately stops with him. That doesn't mean I absolve the others entirely of blame, but Ashley is the 'guilty' one as referenced in the thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordiejihad 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Author Share Posted April 6, 2009 The people i mention are consumate professionals which is why i invoke them ...the point was never that Shay leaving was a bad thing anyone could see that ..the point was ..whose fault was it? Ashley plain and simple ...i dont blame Shay one bit... neither ( i bet ) do most fans .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawan 0 Posted April 6, 2009 Share Posted April 6, 2009 I don't blame Shay for leaving, I blame him for the manner in which he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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