Meenzer 14095 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 My standard procedure has always been to not give a fuck, since I'm not having kids and I hate most people. Friends keep on popping out bairns, though, so I may be forced to actually start caring, the selfish bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) I hate the selfish prick stance but then again it's human beings to a tee, isn't it? was that aimed at me? You're coming across as more of an arrogant prick tbh Edited October 27, 2009 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4231 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I hate the selfish prick stance but then again it's human beings to a tee, isn't it? was that aimed at me? You're coming across as more of an arrogant prick tbh  I feel it balances the debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Anyway, wasn't Linda McCartney on about this yonks ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6434 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 Anyway, wasn't Linda McCartney on about this yonks ago? Â Â Aye, before her leg was eaten by a fresian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3986 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 My standard procedure has always been to not give a fuck, since I'm not having kids and I hate most people  That's pretty much my stance - my pesky conscience keeps trying though.  I keep having these feelings of solidarity with the rest of the human race and admire a lot of our achievements only to actually interact with others and realise it's not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6434 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 capitalism has encouraged the proliferation of morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 It's a shame we're so successful as a species really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6434 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) I wonder if this regularly happens? Logic would dictate so. Edited October 27, 2009 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26540 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've yet to meet a vegetarian with a convincing argument as to why they don't eat meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've yet to meet a vegetarian with a convincing argument as to why they don't eat meat. Â Â You think they're lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've yet to meet a vegetarian with a convincing argument as to why they don't eat meat. Do you want them to convince you like? That probably explains your statement above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26540 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've yet to meet a vegetarian with a convincing argument as to why they don't eat meat. Do you want them to convince you like? That probably explains your statement above. Â Don't get touchy now. It's just that a lot of the time I don't understand their reasons behind it. Not to mention that most of the veggies I've met have generally been a bit weird. Â And as for the vegetarians who refuse to cook meat for others, they can fuck right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I've yet to meet a vegetarian with a convincing argument as to why they don't eat meat. Do you want them to convince you like? That probably explains your statement above. Â Don't get touchy now. It's just that a lot of the time I don't understand their reasons behind it. Not to mention that most of the veggies I've met have generally been a bit weird. Â And as for the vegetarians who refuse to cook meat for others, they can fuck right off. I meant preaching to people rarely works. It's something that has be about individual choice. You're never going to be convinced by the arguments unless they touch on a fundamental belief you hold, whether it be animal welfare, the environment or a variety of issues like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Anyone seen The Cove yet. Â Supposed to be mint...and will turn you off dolphin meat for a good while. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 It's the tuna I feel sorry for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26540 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 It's something that has be about individual choice. You're never going to be convinced by the arguments unless they touch on a fundamental belief you hold, whether it be animal welfare, the environment or a variety of issues like that. Â I understand most of the arguments but completely refusing to eat meat just seems a bit extreme to me. Concerns about animal welfare/ethics etc. can be taken care of by being discerning about where you buy your meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Concerns about animal welfare/ethics etc. can be taken care of by being discerning about where you buy your meat. Â The animal still has to be dead though, right? Is that not an ethical concern? Â Perhaps you're right and we could reduce the number of cattle raised to feed the worlds population by eating human meat as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 It's something that has be about individual choice. You're never going to be convinced by the arguments unless they touch on a fundamental belief you hold, whether it be animal welfare, the environment or a variety of issues like that. Â I understand most of the arguments but completely refusing to eat meat just seems a bit extreme to me. Concerns about animal welfare/ethics etc. can be taken care of by being discerning about where you buy your meat. That's totally fair enough though. It just depends what you believe in / how much you care about something. If you feel really strongly about not eating meat you're possibly going to go down the road of vegetarianism. Likewise, you might really like the taste of meat or certain types of meat and take a strong interest in making sure that the animal you eat was reared in a humane way. Of course that's normally more expensive but that's another matter. I don't see those two views as being diametrically opposed in any way. However, if someone thinks that the idea of an animal living just so it can be killed for a person to eat it is wrong, then that's a convincing argument for them never to eat the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26540 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Concerns about animal welfare/ethics etc. can be taken care of by being discerning about where you buy your meat. Â The animal still has to be dead though, right? Is that not an ethical concern? Â Â However, if someone thinks that the idea of an animal living just so it can be killed for a person to eat it is wrong, then that's a convincing argument for them never to eat the stuff. Â And that's the one I'm not convinced by, hence why I don't agree with a lot of vegetarian's train of thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 No shit? That was what I was saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6434 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 Have you ever killed an animal Ewerk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3986 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I know its a bit childish but I'm a fan of the "if we didn't eat them (ie breed them for that purpose), domesticated animals wouldn't exist" pov. Â As someone who eats a lot of fish I suppose I'm a bit lazy in thinking the stocks are inexhaustible which I know they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26540 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 (edited) Have you ever killed an animal Ewerk? Â Â Nope, is that a prerequisite for eating one? Edited October 27, 2009 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38893 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 When the One World Govt. comes up with a bacon tree, they'll get my vote. Until then, Learn to swim Dear Grandchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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