Dr Gloom 19841 Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 we're going to have to revert to playing 5-4-1 with nolan tucked in behind the frotn man. anyone know how long shola's out for? i think he's the only striker on the books that can play that lone striker role right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26499 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) Sorry like but ranger was fucking awful tonight. Nee Carroll replacement there. Can't remember him winning anything in the air all night I thought he won more than his fair share. I even said at one point Jonas cant speak jive as custard was winning a lot but couldn't direct them his way. Ranger can easily be as good as Carroll. While he's not as good in the air, he's not far behind and is a lot faster. His cameo in the Liverpool was miles better than anything Carroll did in his first season. I think most people write him off because of the two sitters he's missed. But goal will come as he gets them with easy in the reserves. What a load of wank. Anything he did win in the air was knocked on to no one in particular. The lad has a bit of pace and, from his record in the reserves, a striker's instinct, that's about it. He still lacks the intelligence and refined technical ability to score in the PL. I'm not writing him off but from the stories coming out recently about his attitude, he'll never make it unless he becomes more disciplined and realises that his natural talent simply isn't enough to cut it in the Premier League. Edited February 3, 2011 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'm so disillusioned with our strikers - I'd consider just playing Nolan up front till Shola's back. I'd go (seriously) Harper Simpson, Campbell, Williamsons, Enrique Ryan Taylor, Barton Guthrie (oh dear) Collocini Jonas Nolan Straight up. Idiotic shifting Routledge too ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'm so disillusioned with our strikers - I'd consider just playing Nolan up front till Shola's back. I'd go (seriously) Harper Simpson, Campbell, Williamsons, Enrique Ryan Taylor, Barton Guthrie (oh dear) Collocini Jonas Nolan Straight up. Idiotic shifting Routledge too ffs. r taylor injured i'm afraid. you'd have to throw perch into the mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I think Nolan is completely ineffective as a striker. I know the others are too but Nolan offers a lot in midfield alongside Tiote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26499 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) Barton on the right and Ireland in the middle (in a couple of weeks time). In fact, fuck it, throw Ireland in now if it means not having to play Perch. Edited February 3, 2011 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'm so disillusioned with our strikers - I'd consider just playing Nolan up front till Shola's back. I'd go (seriously) Harper Simpson, Campbell, Williamsons, Enrique Ryan Taylor, Barton Guthrie (oh dear) Collocini Jonas Nolan Straight up. Idiotic shifting Routledge too ffs. r taylor injured i'm afraid. you'd have to throw perch into the mix Outside chance he's back for Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I'm not sure what people were expecting. You can't hoy a young, inexperienced lad into a team having a bad game and expect him to excel. He was poor, but no worse than anyone else. I think I'll wait until the lad has been given a proper chance before I write him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Barton on the right and Ireland in the middle (in a couple of weeks time). In fact, fuck it, throw Ireland in now if it means not having to play Perch. In a couple of weeks time it will be better this time next month certainly. Ben Arfa, will be more or less ready, Gosling possible, Ireland definitely, just thinking about the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveymac 0 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thought ranger was shite, but he's a young lad and might come good. Best, for me was much worse, he's supposed to be the international player and apart from the one ball when Jonas stuck him in his movement was shocking. Nolan has to go up front now, sadly probably with Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Commentator last night called him 'raw'. When his co-commentator got excited about this word i thought the conversation was going to take an awkward direction. Am going to say the lesson of watching Carroll develop from being fairly ineffective into a dominant centre-forward should give some pause for thought. The rapid development of Carroll as a player was not about suddenly gaining more control of the ball, his body or improved technique as a player. It was (presumably) based on his innate ability translating into performances through time on the pitch, scoring goals and gaining the ultimate state for a football player, confidence. When you watch Ranger's movement and then how he holds on to the ball, his awkwardness is probably due to his confidence. If he gets a run in the side and a goal or two then lets see what happens. Lets face it, what other hope do we have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26499 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Thought ranger was shite, but he's a young lad and might come good. Best, for me was much worse, he's supposed to be the international player and apart from the one ball when Jonas stuck him in his movement was shocking. That hattrick against West Ham has unfairly led to many supporters expecting Best to be anything other than complete shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Sorry like but ranger was fucking awful tonight. Nee Carroll replacement there. Can't remember him winning anything in the air all night I thought he won more than his fair share. I even said at one point Jonas cant speak jive as custard was winning a lot but couldn't direct them his way. Ranger can easily be as good as Carroll. While he's not as good in the air, he's not far behind and is a lot faster. His cameo in the Liverpool was miles better than anything Carroll did in his first season. I think most people write him off because of the two sitters he's missed. But goal will come as he gets them with easy in the reserves. What a load of wank. Anything he did win in the air was knocked on to no one in particular. The lad has a bit of pace and, from his record in the reserves, a striker's instinct, that's about it. He still lacks the intelligence and refined technical ability to score in the PL. I'm not writing him off but from the stories coming out recently about his attitude, he'll never make it unless he becomes more disciplined and realises that his natural talent simply isn't enough to cut it in the Premier League. Carroll started out exactly the same. Not really his fault and easily fixed. Its the ability to read the game and win the header that counts. Glad to see someone else recognises he has a strikers instinct. The shot late on in the six yard box springs to mind, mainly because its not the first time he's turned quickly to shoot. I know some people will say I'm over selling him, but Carroll showed none of his early promise - the way he slipped pasted Dawson, and amount of balls he won against Liverpool that he had no right too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 If he had a chance to play alongside someone like Carroll you might see what he's capable of because, in fairness, that's the type of striker he needs to be alongside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6191 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Next few weeks our midfield needs to concentrate on keeping possession. There's no sense in sending the ball up to forwards who can't retain it or creat chances. Our midfield keeping it and working it more will take the pressure off the guys up front who aren't equipped or experienced enought to play against Premier League defenders. With that in mind one up front is fine with Nolan in midfield behind. I don't think Coloccini should be moved out of central defense, I don't like the idea of having noone at the back who can play the ball out/is decent on the ball in general. When Coloccini was suspended our defenders were just hoofing the ball up field. If our midfield can work hard enough at retaining possession chances will eventually open up, especially agains the likes of Arsenal who won't put 10 men behind the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5941 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I still think he's the best striker we have now. Ameobi has more experience on his side but when it comes to effort, speed, raw skill, Ranger beats him hands down. He could do with a season in the Championship like Carrol had to see if he can cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6434 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I still think he's the best striker we have now. Ameobi has more experience on his side but when it comes to effort, speed, raw skill, Ranger beats him hands down. He could do with a season in the Championship like Carrol had to see if he can cut it. good chance he'll get one soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 I still think he's the best striker we have now. Ameobi has more experience on his side but when it comes to effort, speed, raw skill, Ranger beats him hands down. He could do with a season in the Championship like Carrol had to see if he can cut it. shola can hold it up, win headers and chip in with the odd goal though. ranger didn't look capable of any of that ladt night. i agree with whoever it was that said he should be used as an impact sub. i remember him coming on against liverpool and causing havoc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I still think he's the best striker we have now. Ameobi has more experience on his side but when it comes to effort, speed, raw skill, Ranger beats him hands down. He could do with a season in the Championship like Carrol had to see if he can cut it. Shola isn't great but his goal record over the last 18 months has been alright. He offers more at present imo. Nothing against Ranger and I agree about his going out on loan. It's ridiculous expecting the kid to cut the mustard in the PL at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 There's a popularist view that Shola is shite full stop. Shola is only shite 3/5ths of the time, the rest he's a fuckin good player. Much better than any of our other strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 There's a popularist view that Shola is shite full stop. Shola is only shite 3/5ths of the time, the rest he's a fuckin good player. Much better than any of our other strikers. Not sure about the fractions there but he's comfortably the best striker at the club imo. To borrow HF's phrase, it's a case of tallest dwarf in the circus, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19841 Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 how long is shola out for? is a fractured cheek bone going to keep him out for weeks? or can he not just wear one of those protective face masks? never thougth i'd say it but we're fuxking desperate for him to return asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Depends how bad it is, if it's shattered he could be out ages. No way were we going to be able to rely on our most injury prone player to stay fit until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3606 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I still think he's the best striker we have now. Ameobi has more experience on his side but when it comes to effort, speed, raw skill, Ranger beats him hands down. He could do with a season in the Championship like Carrol had to see if he can cut it. Shola isn't great but his goal record over the last 18 months has been alright. He offers more at present imo. Nothing against Ranger and I agree about his going out on loan. It's ridiculous expecting the kid to cut the custard in the PL at present. fyp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I still think he's the best striker we have now. Ameobi has more experience on his side but when it comes to effort, speed, raw skill, Ranger beats him hands down. He could do with a season in the Championship like Carrol had to see if he can cut it. Shola isn't great but his goal record over the last 18 months has been alright. He offers more at present imo. Nothing against Ranger and I agree about his going out on loan. It's ridiculous expecting the kid to cut the custard in the PL at present. fyp Dut the custard tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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