spongebob toonpants 3604 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 (edited) Tbh I'm still pretty convinced you were bored and spoiling for a fight from the off. I still think you are. I still can't be arsed. Edit: for Renton's alter-ego Edited October 17, 2006 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 http://zapatopi.net/metrictime/ Should we change to Metric Time too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 (edited) Tbh I'm still pretty convinced you were bored and spoiling for a fight from the off. I still think you are. I still can't be arsed. I'm telling you I'm not, why would I bother lying about it? Some people found the discussion interesting, and funny in places. How have I given the impression i'm spoiling for a fight? The amount of times I've been misread on this site is astounding tbh. Hope SB was right about me being difficult to read. Edited October 17, 2006 by ObaGol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14059 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Lordy, this is worse than the squabbling over the last white wine spritzer at G-A-Y Bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17818 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 http://zapatopi.net/metrictime/ Should we change to Metric Time too? No, it's not really necessary, time is already in straight forward units that everyone understands and were designed to be easy to do calculations with (very easy to divide 24 and 60). The SI unit is the second, and everything beneath that is metric/decimal anyway. You could also get rid of degrees and replace with radians, but that is far too hard to visualize...... We should get rid of Fahrenheit though - another ridiculous system, now used only in the US and by pensioners thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 10 metric hours in a day100 metric minutes in a metric hour 100 metric seconds in a metric minute 10 days in a metric week (called a dekade) Well, I can't see any problems with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3604 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 http://zapatopi.net/metrictime/ Should we change to Metric Time too? No, it's not really necessary, time is already in straight forward units that everyone understands and were designed to be easy to do calculations with (very easy to divide 24 and 60). The SI unit is the second, and everything beneath that is metric/decimal anyway. You could also get rid of degrees and replace with radians, but that is far too hard to visualize...... stick in the mud, you are as bad as Noellie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 No, it's not really necessary, time is already in straight forward units that everyone understands and were designed to be easy to do calculations with (very easy to divide 24 and 60). The SI unit is the second, and everything beneath that is metric/decimal anyway. You could also get rid of degrees and replace with radians, but that is far too hard to visualize...... We should get rid of Fahrenheit though - another ridiculous system, now used only in the US and by pensioners thankfully. How is that any worse than imperial system, though? Things like seconds in a week are a pain to work out. Sorry to dwell on it, I don't want to seem like I'm spoiling (which Alex sounds like he is tbh!) Seriously Alex, are you in a bad mood today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17818 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 No, it's not really necessary, time is already in straight forward units that everyone understands and were designed to be easy to do calculations with (very easy to divide 24 and 60). The SI unit is the second, and everything beneath that is metric/decimal anyway. You could also get rid of degrees and replace with radians, but that is far too hard to visualize...... We should get rid of Fahrenheit though - another ridiculous system, now used only in the US and by pensioners thankfully. How is that any worse than imperial system, though? Things like seconds in a week are a pain to work out. Sorry to dwell on it, I don't want to seem like I'm spoiling (which Alex sounds like he is tbh!) Seriously Alex, are you in a bad mood today? The thing is the imperial system is completely irrational - 16 ounces in a pound, 14 pounds in a stone, fuck knows how many stones in a ton etc. Then there's length, area, volume etc. The other day Meenzers fat hom joke was almost loss because Gemmill didn't know there were 6 feet in a fathom. I can live with 24 and 60, and they are easily divisible. To change would be horrific and lead to the collapse of civilisation for a time imo. And anyway, who needs to know how many seconds there are in a week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14059 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 The other day Meenzers fat hom joke was almost loss because Gemmill didn't know there were 6 feet in a fathom. Undoubtedly the best argument in favour of the metric system in this thread to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 (edited) Calculations like that would be reasonbly common for programming any date based functions. I just don't see how 16 - 14 - 142 is any less rational than 60 - 60 - 24 - 7 - 4.4. EDIT: Now you've got me interested in the origins of these things, when there are other things I need to be doing! Month/day/season/year all easy, but why hour? And if we'd been raised on octal would it be any more copmplex than decimal? Edited October 17, 2006 by ObaGol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34585 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 No, it's not really necessary, time is already in straight forward units that everyone understands and were designed to be easy to do calculations with (very easy to divide 24 and 60). The SI unit is the second, and everything beneath that is metric/decimal anyway. You could also get rid of degrees and replace with radians, but that is far too hard to visualize...... We should get rid of Fahrenheit though - another ridiculous system, now used only in the US and by pensioners thankfully. How is that any worse than imperial system, though? Things like seconds in a week are a pain to work out. Sorry to dwell on it, I don't want to seem like I'm spoiling (which Alex sounds like he is tbh!) Seriously Alex, are you in a bad mood today? The thing is the imperial system is completely irrational - 16 ounces in a pound, 14 pounds in a stone, fuck knows how many stones in a ton etc. Then there's length, area, volume etc. The other day Meenzers fat hom joke was almost loss because Gemmill didn't know there were 6 feet in a fathom. I can live with 24 and 60, and they are easily divisible. To change would be horrific and lead to the collapse of civilisation for a time imo. And anyway, who needs to know how many seconds there are in a week? Er excuse me, dickwad! I made the connection between the fathom and six feet, so shut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 The units for distance are even more daft. Number of fucking chains? Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17818 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Calculations like that would be reasonbly common for programming any date based functions. I just don't see how 16 - 14 - 142 is any less rational than 60 - 60 - 24 - 7 - 4.4. It would be too difficult to change time, and it's a universal system, unlike the imperial system, which only exists in a small number of countries which were once part of the commmon wealth. Also there are some factors youcan't change about time - for instance how many times the sun rotates before it orbits the sun - so whatever you do would be a bit of a fudge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17818 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 And if we'd been raised on octal would it be any more copmplex than decimal? No, not if you were used to it and had 8 digits. In fact, it would be considerably easier, as it has 2 and 4 as its factors (handy for converting binary too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17818 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 No, it's not really necessary, time is already in straight forward units that everyone understands and were designed to be easy to do calculations with (very easy to divide 24 and 60). The SI unit is the second, and everything beneath that is metric/decimal anyway. You could also get rid of degrees and replace with radians, but that is far too hard to visualize...... We should get rid of Fahrenheit though - another ridiculous system, now used only in the US and by pensioners thankfully. How is that any worse than imperial system, though? Things like seconds in a week are a pain to work out. Sorry to dwell on it, I don't want to seem like I'm spoiling (which Alex sounds like he is tbh!) Seriously Alex, are you in a bad mood today? The thing is the imperial system is completely irrational - 16 ounces in a pound, 14 pounds in a stone, fuck knows how many stones in a ton etc. Then there's length, area, volume etc. The other day Meenzers fat hom joke was almost loss because Gemmill didn't know there were 6 feet in a fathom. I can live with 24 and 60, and they are easily divisible. To change would be horrific and lead to the collapse of civilisation for a time imo. And anyway, who needs to know how many seconds there are in a week? Er excuse me, dickwad! I made the connection between the fathom and six feet, so shut it. Only after clarification, turnip brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34585 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Please tell me that you wankers aren't now going to argue over an entirely different way of dividing up the hours in a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Calculations like that would be reasonbly common for programming any date based functions. I just don't see how 16 - 14 - 142 is any less rational than 60 - 60 - 24 - 7 - 4.4. It would be too difficult to change time, and it's a universal system, unlike the imperial system, which only exists in a small number of countries which were once part of the commmon wealth. Also there are some factors youcan't change about time - for instance how many times the sun rotates before it orbits the sun - so whatever you do would be a bit of a fudge. Space and time are interwoven and therefore as unchangeable as each other, no? It's only their representation that we're talking about, the distance from Newcastle to Paris isn't changing any more than rotations of the Sun. Now you've reminded me of my pet hate, all the things you're talking about cause no real problems for programming, but American date format has been a huge fucking problem for us, A LOT. Now that's something I'd like to see someone hang for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3604 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Shame about the co-op shutting mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Just had an e-mail from a cousin whose daughter works for the Co-Op and she says that the Co-Op store on Newgate Street and the one in Gateshead are up for sale. Sad isn't it when stores and company's you've grown up with and known all your life disappear, more British identity lost Award-winningly off topic. I really have to go do some work now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 17818 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Calculations like that would be reasonbly common for programming any date based functions. I just don't see how 16 - 14 - 142 is any less rational than 60 - 60 - 24 - 7 - 4.4. It would be too difficult to change time, and it's a universal system, unlike the imperial system, which only exists in a small number of countries which were once part of the commmon wealth. Also there are some factors youcan't change about time - for instance how many times the sun rotates before it orbits the sun - so whatever you do would be a bit of a fudge. Space and time are interwoven and therefore as unchangeable as each other, no? It's only their representation that we're talking about, the distance from Newcastle to Paris isn't changing any more than rotations of the Sun. Now you've reminded me of my pet hate, all the things you're talking about cause no real problems for programming, but American date format has been a huge fucking problem for us, A LOT. Now that's something I'd like to see someone hang for! The numbers of days in a year is absolute though. Presumably we are all agreed a year and a day are important concepts, so this limits how we can represent time. The distance between Paris and London is only important in how it relates to other distances, surely. The American date system is wrong, I agree, the wankers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34585 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 You two will argue about ANYTHING. It's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sweetleftpeg 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 The Co-op round mine is getting shitter like, they also stopped selling fresh fruit and veg due to a lack of demand. Plus, it's always, and I mean always, getting robbed at gunpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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