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Some yank reporter on BBC breakfast this morning was being shown the very missile that delivered the chemical attack, I think he was with the same group of journalists as Robert Fisk was. I think my point is that journalistic truth is fuckin dead and that makes informed comment even for the smartest among us very difficult. It's not that I don't want to believe any MSM outlet because I don't agree with what they are presenting as news, I just think they could well be churning out bullshit as content because they absolutely have to broadcast "something". The whole thing depresses me almost as much as the thousands of dead Syrians. We still don't know what happened and are unlikely ever to know for sure But we've still bombed Syria. Again. Creating more jihadis. And on it goes.

I assume the Americans don't realise they haven't qualified.

TMB When the feeling's gone and you can't go on It's TMB When the morning cries and you don't know why It's hard to bear With no one to love you You're going nowhere

Ah knaa yee! Yee knaa me! NQdd is for me In the Fulwell end In nineteen seventy, Stood our intrepid Essembee.

Does WOC stand for Weps Of Chem?

The MSM agree with each other - bad. The MSM contradict each other - bad. Tough crowd.

The propchans

Labour has undoubtedly got a problem with anti Semitism . Why the fuck is it being debated in the House of Commons though?

Who's Sunderland?

I know, I just... Tbh I'm just screaming into the void anyway.

I didn't have a passion for Corbyn - please just internalise this point. I had an intense disillusionment with literally everything that wasn't Corbyn. This has not changed. You are currently witnessing my intense disillusionment with the shitshow that is the political machinations of this country. I was on the brink of simply giving up on voting pre-Corbyn, and nothing has happened since he came along that makes me think that any other status quo party has learned a damn thing from why he is where he is, and even why Brexit happened. This farce about anti-semitism is staggering. Has anyone been killed by an anti-semitic left winger yet? Has anyone even been assaulted? All we have are vague fucking accusations of this and that at a time when we are a couple of steps away from a war with a major power. It's just... I don't even understand this country. It's fucking insane.

He’s busy chewing on a DOC.

And if May had been accused of anti-semitism, you'd have been crying about it. Yawn.

You two need to aim for brevity. Don't drone on and on. Try to be pithy. Get to the point quickly. Be succinct.

I did state that am not accusing anyone of conspiracy. Am accusing them of filling airtime and column inches with un verifiable guff and just confusing the fuck out of people.

Agreed. That's how it comes across the article too. But that's precisely why it should never have seen the light of day in an allegedly reputable publication. That's verging on fake news iyam. Twitter was alive with every fuck nut on the planet quoting Fisk' s piece this morning. The BBC footage was filmed by some Ron Burgandy fucker from CBS. Would you have taken the word of these locals?.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-43796356/syria-war-inside-douma-eastern-ghouta-bombed-city-of-the-chemical-attack Between the two stories there's little to go on and the yank doesn't really question the veracity of what he's being shown. They're just broadcasting "stuff" because they've got airtime to fill.

Aah, it was only a draw, man

Doesn’t that contradict the whole corporate MSM conspiracy bullshit? Different, ahem, mainstream media outlets quoting a range of different sources? It’s the sources who are providing the conflicting lines. I’d be inclined to believe the beeb. They only report something as fact if it is verified by multiple sources.

Like the post-match Trent posse discussing NUFC tbh

I was thinking the same

They do tick quite a few boxes tbf.

BBC: reporting this morning as fact that it was chlorine gas delivered by a missile into the roof of a building. Robert Fisk in the independant: doctor in the hospital said the foaming mouths filmed was due to oxygen deprivation caused by conventional shelling. Who's right Gloom? Seriously, I have no idea. Am not suggesting conspiracy or false flag or any of that nonsense by the folk on the ground, I just don't know who to trust because reputable journalists and agencies are filing copy that contradicts each other. That'll be the MSM.

Not yet.

i'm exempt, a bit like how black people are free to use the N word

Maybe it was Pancake Day evening.

i wish he'd keep his trap shut. every time he talks these days he puts me off ever listening to the smiths again

*Trikes rule.

NQdd

At this rate, I’ll only have my R. Kelly albums to fall back on.

I see Morrissey's at it again. Anyone who still listens to his music might as well have a Billy bookcase full of Lostprophets CDs if you ask me. Wrong 'uns one and all.

Sunderland weren’t managed by the king though tbf

FYFYPP

I'm lazy

That's me got a full house in essembeeofsunderland Niall Quinn bingo.

Looking at the teams likely going down this season and comparing them to the sunderland side from the same time last year. Its astonishing that sunderland had managed to stay in the premier league for so long, they were no where near as good as even this West Brom team who are dead to rights

If only Sunderland were going down as well it would be perfect

I just mentioned Stoke in relation to them looking like they're knacked rather than being able to catch us.

Equally anti-immigration anyway. The way in which migrants have been demonised in this country is a disgrace.

Lardiola

Good to see you, Rob.

FYP

Never understood why people don't rate Belgium as a country. The beer there is in a different universe to the rest of the world. Plus chocolate to keep the chicks happy. And chips. What's not to like?