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Not looking so daft now, is he?

I’m very staunchly atheist, but I totally understand people being upset by this. It’s not just some church, it’s a national symbol, not to mention that it’s an incredible building. Not believing in the Big Fellow doesn’t stop me being gobsmacked every time I walk in to Durham Cathedral, for example, and I’m sure if that went up in flames we’d be equally upset.

What a stupid way to run a club. Put a useless bumhole in charge as MD, hobble the club’s commercial income and starve the best manager we’ve had in many years of the modest amount of cash needed to keep him happy. Then don’t communicate with him at all, to the point he’ll walk when his contract is up, inevitably exposing the club to relegation next season and a huge financial loss. Then they’ll throw money at winning promotion again. The whole thing is ridiculous. We’re being run like a fucking corner shop.

Well I’m a bit of both so I win

Shame some of that money wasn't available for victims of sexual abuse by Catholic priests.

Cardiff beat Brighton, I feel a little unsafer now.

If the cunts hadn't sold the Strawberry land something like this wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility. Would hold 60k apparently

So much for the new dawn

David DeGea.

Plan. What big names do they have to move on? I don’t see much of them so I don’t know if they’ve anyone that a Championship club would take a chance on.

Similar to the difference between a twat and an utter twat.

*applause* Superb

I get that, and it's always shit when something that old is damaged, regardless of religion. I'm less sympathetic about the nationwide mourning for the nails and wood splinters from Jesus' crucifixion that may have been lost in the fire...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47938188 Bloody foreigners, coming here and building our ancient monuments.

I prayed that my granda wouldn't die of cancer. I guess someone else was praying even harder than me that he would.

Very interesting article, had never heard of the bloke and certainly not of the prince either. There must be a dozen Prince Abdullahs in Saudi. Equally interesting was this one: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47830726 Somebody posted not long ago about how Emre, at 38, is still playing internationally for Turkey. Looks clear now why that is - he's been rimming Erdogan. Plays for and captains his pet team, rubs shoulders with him at his mate Turan's wedding, and makes the same ridiculous political gestures he does. In 2013, the Egyptian military overthrew President Morsi, and Erdogan made a huge deal about how corrupt the coup was, and how it had been orchestrated by Israel, and he went around at rallies making a four-fingered gesture that was supposed to represent support for Morsi, who was Egypt's fourth president. Emre was playing for Konyaspor at the time and made the same gesture after he scored. Any respect I had for the racist little cunt evaporated instantly. I was in Istanbul at the time, as it happens, and as soon as any Turk found out that I was Egyptian they immediately started giving me a load of bullshit about how great Morsi was (he was an awful president, an Islamist in the thinnest of disguises), how terrible it was that the military had intervened (Egypt would be Somalia by now if they hadn't) and how their great president Erdogan had "evidence" that Mossad was behind the coup, which he was going to present in parliament any day now (obviously there is no such evidence.) It used to do my head in listening to this crap, as if anyone with even the barest capacity to think critically could believe the lies Erdogan tells. Of course, FIFA takes no action as the sitting president blatantly interferes in football. Basaksehir is owned by the fucking Ministry of Sports. It is 100% a government institution. It's as if the Crown bought Leyton Orient and pumped hundreds of millions into getting them to the Premier League title, bending the rules along the way. They have an average attendance of 5000, for fuck's sake. The entire club is tainted top to bottom by association with Erdogan and AKP. Sorry for the rant but any thought of Turkey leaves an awful taste in my mouth now. For decades Turkey was the model to follow for secular Muslim-majority states. Now the entire government has pretty openly embraced Islamism and chucked the Kemalist mentality which has sustained Turkey for almost 100 years. The ruling party lost local elections in Istanbul for the first time in decades. The next day they started putting up posters declaring they'd won and thanking Istanbul for their support. They've already overturned 7 electoral losses in to a Kurdish opposition party. It seems all but certain that they will try to declare the Istanbul election was rigged (in fact, government sources have already been unofficially calling it "the most stained election in our democratic history.") The place has turned into a banana republic in just a few years, and it makes me sad.