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How so? Taking the Keegan factor out of it what was Ashley doing for us that isn't being done now?

So what's the job then?

Were we any better off when he did take an interest?

I'm not talking about individual transfers, I'm talking about the lack of spending and failure to strengthen a threadbare squad despite the request of the manager. And there is nothing wrong with admitting you've gotten a few things wrong but suddenly welcoming Ashley back without putting up any sort of a fight shows a lack of backbone to me.

Give them a break man, it appears they're trying to reflect the diversity of opinion across the fan base, not an easy task with our lot. Aye. I thought just about everyone wanted them to moderate their views a bit. Personally it wasn't their views I had a problem with but it was the childish statements they were coming out with. While their most recent statement is much more clear and concise, it's not a view I agree with and would be interested to know if this is representative of the fanbase.

Give them a break man, it appears they're trying to reflect the diversity of opinion across the fan base, not an easy task with our lot. Well that's my main gripe, how do they guage the opinion of the fanbase? Was there a meeting held on the issue? Or is this simply another 'supporters' group' who claim to speak for the fans without consulting them?

I think their approach is just a pragmatic one in terms of what is best for the club. I agree with most of what you say btw. The trouble is, he can't really be forced to sell imo. Not without doing much more damage to NUFC anyway. Agreed alex, no matter what you think of the man personally or as a chairman, whats right for the club in the current circumstances (economic) may not be a continuation of an adversarial relationship between the man with the purse strings and those who desperately want to see the club's current situation improve i.e. fucking everyone else. He wasn't spending money or listening to the fans when everything appeared to be rosey so I don't expect that to change just because NUSC have shown to have no backbone.

Did Malcolm Shiels consult the NUSC membership before making this announcement? Given that Ashley appears to have completely ignored their requests for dialogue and absolutely nothing has changed I find this an astounding statement.

And still at it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/de...d-premierleague

I can tolerate journos having a dislike for us but when they start contacting the FA about frivolous claims about politically sensitive issues just to draw attention to us and her then that's going too far.

He's a WUM and clearly he's doing a good job on some.

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My heart bleeds. You can't fault a player for showing some ambition.

HAHAHAHA It wasn't a joke.

FFS, was gonna go for 0-0, changed my mind to 1-1 at the last minute. Still, I'm well up for the evening.

Their websites I'd imagine.

Eh? Kanye produced most of Finding Forever. my girl made me watch them, I saw it with my own eyes, told Common he was crazy to release an album at the same time. The jist of the comment was that there was no hope in hell of Common winning a grammy if he was up against kanye. http://videos.onsmash.com/v/NejCebiXqZw148J2 I'm guessing it was a joke. Still, at least he wasn't dressed like a complete cock.

Not even Keegan?

Eh? Kanye produced most of Finding Forever.

Mort lied! "This club had £100million-worth of debt which has now been cleared " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...Chris-Mort.html

As far as I'm aware the only surprise Ashley had was the money owing on past transfers. How much could that really have been? I understand it perhaps reducing the amount he had set aside for transfers but I don't believe it's the entire reason we've spent next to fuck all on transfers.

Tbf to him, I think he wanted to sell, but the markets have gone against him. Needs to get that price down a tad as well. In principle you'd think that was a good idea. The problem is, the asset has a value that is based on more than market sentiment, it is based on revenue streams, future growth potential, the brand, all sorts of things that are more tangible than 'market turbulence'. If you drop the price low enough, then you open up the market to not just serious investors but anyone who can scrabble together the lowered asking price. Just think what sort of people would put their hat into the ring if the price was a quid. (actually didnt Abramovic buy Chelsea for a quid?). Anyway, you get my point. Yup. Everyone needs to hold tight for now. It's 'staying frosty' that has gotten us into this position.

I agree but part of the "spec" was the value of the stadium/stands which you could argue is property which would then beg the question of why should they be different to housing which has fallen? Because the value of the stadium won't be entirely based on what the resale value is, it'll be based on how much money can be generated by filling the stadium.

Tbf to him, I think he wanted to sell, but the markets have gone against him. Needs to get that price down a tad as well. In principle you'd think that was a good idea. The problem is, the asset has a value that is based on more than market sentiment, it is based on revenue streams, future growth potential, the brand, all sorts of things that are more tangible than 'market turbulence'. If you drop the price low enough, then you open up the market to not just serious investors but anyone who can scrabble together the lowered asking price. Just think what sort of people would put their hat into the ring if the price was a quid. (actually didnt Abramovic buy Chelsea for a quid?). Anyway, you get my point. That's why you have to trust him to sell it to someone he feels is going to invest in the club and can take it forward, not just whatever cowboys can get the money together.

Surely then if he's serious about selling, it's in his interest to settle the case asap........... unless he's notafter selling.Oh cynical me! But I've been told by everyone that Ashley only bought the club for a quick-sell? Who on here is saying that?