Rayvin

We don't get to set that narrative. As shown in the 2017 GE, a vote for Labour means "80% of the country wants to get on with Brexit". So against that backdrop, even if the Brexit Party, Labour and the Tories are all pulled together to be more than 50%, it's an improvement on 80%. Also, it's not quite about the same issue anymore. No one can claim that Labour are backing No Deal. That's all the Brexit Party are backing, as I understand it. So yes, more than 50% of the country could be argued to want Brexit, but not all of those agree on how to do it. Labour are unequivocably opposed to No Deal, so I'm not sure how that alliance gets traction even amongst the narrative setters. There is no middle ground option available once May's deal crashes and burns a fourth time. At that point, Labour will -have- to choose a fucking side. And this strong showing for Remain with Labour voters deserting them should be the convincing kick in the backside they need to just fucking give up on trying to enable this shitshow. Also, seems fairly clear that the people voting Labour in actual fact have no strong opinion on Brexit full stop and would probably accept staying - so those people combined with the Remainers could deliver power to Corbyn. How he hasn't seen this is incredible, but maybe this will demonstrate it. He's ultimately relied on the middle class wringing their hands about the 'fascists' and just getting on with 'doing the right thing'. Fuck him. He has to do the right thing first, and it requires some political bravery.

Pragmatism wins out in the end I think. I won't forgive the Lib Dems more generally, but Labour are the ones who need to choke down a message this time while there's still a small chance this can be averted. The rest of this can be sorted through once the issue is resolved.

I have managed to win 4 friends, and 6 family members over to the Lib Dem cause Anything to shut me up, apparently.

Lib Dem it is.

City not getting a lot of love for this victory it seems. Honestly, they could win everything going for the next 10 years and they still wouldn't be hailed as a legendary team in the way Liverpool and Man Utd seem to be. Skill wise they're the best team ever to grace English football. But it's all manufactured from a position of total financial superiority, so it's really hard to care about them. I can't even really hate them, they're just club football's clearest manifestation of money.

Depressing indicator of the futility of even trying in the cups. Who even cares anymore.

Then he's the man who delivered Brexit and beat down the populists. The Tories will win the next GE as people will punish Labour.

I don't think we have time for this. Nick boles said yesterday that he now thought no deal was basically inevitable. All Johnson has to do is let us crash out.

Truthfully I'm not 100% sure I even credit Ashley with enough intelligence to do it. Maybe he's made it Charnley in order to avoid personally implicating himself in the failure, who knows.

My old boss used to believe the best way to conduct a negotiation was to send someone like Charnley in first with a set of parameters. If he can come to terms, great. If not, a further meeting can be organised with Ashley, who essentially becomes an escalation point. It basically gives two chances to come to a deal. Not saying that's what is happening, but its the kind of game playing I've seen before if it is. If Ashley goes into the first one, there can be no escalation.

Nice to see an underdog team triumph occasionally.

God, not Charnley. He'll sit down with Rafa and will somehow come out of the meeting having hired Tony Pulis.

Well fucking said.

I suppose that's true.

That actually is a silver lining to a degree. The people will have no one else to blame.

At least it's a clear mandate if it does. I mean it would be unarguable from our point of view. Part of what is so frustrating about this chaos is that there is no mandate for anything.

Wouldn't it just split the leave vote?

I can't quite believe it but ITV did the right thing and canned Jeremy Kyle. Permanently, with all previous episodes removed. Absolutely the right decision, was a dismal show at the best of times.

They should go full DnD with it now and change her middle name to 'The Uncorrupted' or 'The Breaker of Chains'. Then those kids with a bit of darkness in them can be 'The Fallen' I mean, if they're going to be stupid enough to name their children after someone who starts the series off with murderous violence and has ambitions of dominion over all men, and then be surprised when those ambitions are manifest.

Is that actually how that conversation went? What the fuck do Sugar's baftas have to do with some poor bloke killing himself?

The polls - I mean the only reason Sargon got involved with this is because he thought he could ride the UKIP wave to some kind of political career. Instead, Farage has risen from the dead like some kind of undead zombie dragon, and stolen the entire limelight.

I am enjoying this season and the fall of Dany I mean, I hate 'perfect' characters, so this is enjoyable. Jon Snow gets away with his stuff cos I think he seems genuinely quite northern in his outlook, and I'm biased af.

I think the dragonfire was a bit mixed up. When it hit people, it him them like fire. When it hit bricks and mortar, it hit them like a missile. Has it ever been shown to be that powerful in the past? Also, any possibility that Dany will try to torch John Snow and he'll live through it with his Targaryan blood? How does Sansa get onto the throne btw? That's a hell of a jump for one episode.

I will greatly enjoy that, if it pans out that way.

I dunno about that last point - what's the point in seiging a place if you're just going to flatten it? That's something you do to obliterate an enemy, not conquer a city.