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Rayvin

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    This isn't solely about Ings, this was originally about Burnley's inability to score enough goals to stay up, which for whatever reason people seem to be doggedly trying to prove isn't the reason they went down, against all available evidence. When it's widely acknowledged that they were having no difficulty either keeping clean sheets or in creating chances, then frankly I can't see why Ings, as their main forward in a one upfront formation, isn't largely to blame. Not solely of course, but from a player contribution perspective, which was the whole point of the players wages thread, he definitely is. And it's precisely because he will be able to walk away from that team and walk into another PL club, while most of his team mates have to stay at Burnley, that shows quite conclusively that there is currently no real relationship between what happens in the real world, and what happens in football (which was also the premise of the wages thread).

     

     

    Just on that last note, Sissoko staying here will be evidence to the contrary surely? If he was playing better, or in a better team, he'd be able to get his CL move. Now he has to suck it up and play for us again next year due to his poor performances.

     

    As for the main point, you're basically saying that Ings' form fell away towards the end of last season, and was contributive to Burnley being relegated? I'd say that's a fair statement. That happens though, and the team in general should have been able to handle certain players falling away; that they didn't suggests that they were overly reliant on him. That said, all that's going to happen is that Liverpool will buy him, ruin him as a player, and he'll end up playing for Stoke or someone - which is probably about his level.

  2. Why can't people come on a forum, instantly realise it's pretty cliquey, that we've already established friendships, and fuck off?

     

    There is definitely an element of this on here... I think it took about 9 months before anyone said anything to me directly outside of the intro thread :lol:

  3. charnley just looks a massive cunt too, doesn't he. i think i'm feeling even cooler towards him than i was to that prick llambias

     

    Llambias was at least something approaching capable, even if he was an utter fuck of a human being. Charnley has almost all of his negative qualities, and zero of the positive ones. I'd prefer Llambias to still be here, out of the two.

  4. Do you seriously believes Ashley needs any more PR. He is the best known club owner in the EPL maybe for all the wrong reasons but self made billionaires like him don't give a s**t whether it is good or bad.

     

    ...The club needs good PR though. Currently it has supporters jacking in season tickets in their droves. I'm pretty sure Graing meant the club rather than Ashley himself.

  5. He's created enough optimistic doubt in my mind that I think he may have wrangled himself a slender chance to improve the club's relationship with supporters here.

     

    My main gripe was always that nothing was explained and no dialogue was created between the club and ourselves, meaning we were always filling in blanks with random guesswork and analysis; if his interview marks a move away from that uncertainty then at least we'll have a better idea of where we stand.

     

    I would credit Ashleyout.com for this to be honest; despite some skepticism on my part, I have to concede that they have forced him out into the open - admittedly with the added pressure of relegation.

  6. Mako, have you tried not vociferously rejecting the ideas of everyone who takes up a topic for discussion with you? If you gave a little ground, tried to understand the other side of the argument and acknowledged the point, even if you continue to disagree with it, you'd likely get some reciprocal traction on your own ideas.

     

    Almost every thread has become a shit slinging contest between you and another miscellaneous member of the board. :anguish:

     

    </Kissinger>

  7. I'm not saying that he is involved with decisions on individual players but I'm sure he'd have the final say in the appointment of a head coach and guides our overall transfer strategy.

     

    Ah ok, well then yes. Although he'll not be drawing up shortlists or anything like that. If Charnley's the one doing that, then he's actually the one in the position to influence the outcome.

     

    On transfer strategy, I agree. I think you could interpret his comments as him saying as much anyway; he makes sure that the club is maximising it's financial prospects (allegedly), while Charnley (God help us) ensures we perform.

     

    Either way, maybe this whole sorry affair has got under his skin at least - I doubt he'll allow us to come this close to the abyss again...and it doesn't sound like relegation is going to get rid of him...

  8. I think that Ashley is very much understating his influence on footballing matters.

     

    You think so...? I sometimes wonder where he'd find the time to be honest, given that we're not his only focus. It makes sense that a lot of the stuff that goes on would have to be at the door of people he can delegate to.

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