Renton
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I'm not being deliberately evasive - I'm stating facts! The only player who he has publically stated will never play for him again is Craig Bellamy. The rest are all press assumptions taken.
Your original statement was that the radio stated:
"since the premiership was formed, there have been 16 occasions when a manager has publically said a player will never play for him again. 12 of these occasions involved Souness."
That is simply not true!
There's nothing in that statement about players falling out with managers.
I am by no means a Souness fan, but for journalists to come out with bollocks like that is ludicrous!
How do you know it's not true? But you are being evasive of the main point, the evidence suggests he could start a fight in an empty room!
Even his playing career and his health problems bear testament to his personality. He's from Edinburgh and is like a mate of my nomme de plume - Begbie!
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The last statement is of course ludicrous. If you were talking about how many people get cancer from smoking, you wouldn't turn it on its head and say its OK, because most people don't get cancer from smoking. That would be bad journalism!
I think Craig you are being deliberately evasive. Souness is a very confrontational manager, probably the most confrontational in the history of the premiership. Not many players leave his management saying good things about him, but many say bad things about him, even if he didn't personally fall out with him (e.g. Henning-Berg). Now you might not think this is a bad thing, you might think it is an irrelevance, which is fine, just say so. I personally believe it is a bad thing, because he can never go on a sustained run with resentment in his dressing room due to his bad man-management. The facts bear this out in his tendency to have poor league finishes (although this is of course complicated by his poor coaching and tactical ability).
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It was the latter, but it was actually set as a quiz question!
Anyway, without going into the specifics, would you agree that Souness has fallen out with more players than any other manager in the premiership?
Yes or no?
As many as Gullit??
Yes or no?
Gullit is probably the second worst manager for falling out with playing staff. You weren't upset when he was booted out, were you?
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The whole of football is based on subjective opinions and conjecture!
However, if we want to use facts to prove Souness is a shit manager (i.e. results and statistics), then that is easy as well!
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It was the latter, but it was actually set as a quiz question!
Anyway, without going into the specifics, would you agree that Souness has fallen out with more players than any other manager in the premiership?
Yes or no?
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No, I can't, and I stated so in my post if you bothered to read it - this was just a fact stated by someone on the radio. However, it seems reasonable to me, and even if the numbers quoted are not quite right, I am sure no manager has fallen out with as many players as Souness - not even close. Can you name someone who has?
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Why affect us worse than other clubs though. Like I said, I think it is multifactorial:
Souness and the coaches
The training ground
Players lifestyles off the pitch
Too many crocks who are intrinsically more likely to get ham strung
A lack of commitment for some players to get fit and stay fit
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How on earth did you end up going from San Francisco, one of the world's most famous and desirable cities, to Middlesbrough, of you don't mind me asking?
I can only imagine it's the money!
The money was actually better in San Francisco.
I just didn't want to stay in America forever and ended up changing jobs to one in Smogsville when I came back home. I'll not be working here too much longer though, if things go to plan.....
Well good luck in your plan. My wife used to have to face the daily commute to Smogsville everyday - the A19 and the tunnel. Absolutely horrible journey, and look where you end up! Thankfully, she escaped and now works in Newcastle.
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How on earth did you end up going from San Francisco, one of the world's most famous and desirable cities, to Middlesbrough, of you don't mind me asking?
I can only imagine it's the money!
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I once got a flight from a really small American airline back from Cancun called "Sun Country". They had been sent in to replace our knackered British Caledonian flight (26 hours delay
). I think they claimed to be the second biggest airline in Minnesota or something, which was hardly reassuring. Anyway, being a nervous flyer I wasn't impressed when they told us "This is the first time any of us, or this plane, has flown across the Atlantic before, so it's an adventure for all of us, yee haaa*". It couldn't even make it one go - it had to refuel in Bangor, Maine. Got us back in the end though, thankfully.
* Yee haa put in for dramatic purposes.
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But bear in mind that citeh are a far better team than Blackburn, and we are presently probably worse at home than away for some reason.
Maybe the win last week will kick start us, but I saw nothing from the performance to suggest it.
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If we play anywhere near as badly as we did against Blackburn we will lose for sure. Then it's quite a wait for our next home game against the mackems.
What does winning and being there feel like again?
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It's not inconceivable though is it that maybe it might have something to do with the facililties/training area.
As much as people slag Souness off (me included) i find it hard to believe that something particular about only his training methods bring about these injuries, isn't the kind of easy trend to spot?
Agreed. And it's not like Luque's been here long enough for Souness's dastardly coaching techniques to have damaged his hamstrings.
There's a balance here Gemmill. I'm not suggesting this is all down to Souness, but it is likely to be a multifactorial problem, and I think Souness and, in particular, his coaches, are a part of the problem.
If Luques injury can't be explained by Souness et al, then neither can it be explained on the training ground.
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Source:http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/4274086.stm
Newcastle manager Graeme Souness believes the playing surface at the club's training ground may be to blame for a spate of hamstring injuries.
Kieron Dyer, Emre and Albert Luque have all suffered similar injuries, and Souness says a pattern has emerged.
He said: "We've lost close on 600 days to hamstrings alone in the last three years at the training ground.
"In the two years before Newcastle came to this training ground we were on a par with the rest of the Premiership."
Souness told the League Managers' Association website: "We were losing about 90 days a year to hamstring injuries. We're running treble that now. It's something we think that we've got to the bottom of now.
"We have a very hard fibre sand area that was the only area we could really train on last year and we felt that was our biggest problem, and the (hamstring) statistics bear that out.
"So we now have another area that we can train on at the training ground which isn't fibre sand and until we get lots of rain and the winter months come along we have to avoid the fibre sand."
The other thing that's changed over the last two years is our manager and coaches of course. I suppose that has nothing to do with it.
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press report, confirmed, straight from the mouth of an ex Blackburn player.
Now, before you ask, I obviously can't say who it was .....
But, he doesn't have any personal gripe against Souness, he had no bother with him, but still thinks he's a wanker
It was on the radio the other day that, since the premiership was formed, there have been 16 occasions when a manager has publically said a player will never play for him again. 12 of these occasions involved Souness.
Now, I have no way of testing the validity of this statement, but can anyone say, in all honesty, that it isn't likely to be true? We all knew what was going to happen to our more difficult-to-mange players the day Souness came, with all to predictable results.
Frankly I can't be arsed arguing about Souness anymore - to me his worth as a manager has been shown at every club he has been with bar Rangers, none so more clearly than here. Those that don't want to see it, that incredibly think Faye was an acceptable signing for instance, then fine. We can continue this conversation at the end of the year or when Souness is sacked, whichever comes first.
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With the amount of gun-point robbery looting (including at hospitals) that occured in New Orleans, I'd say it's justified in this case.
Not worth dying over property imo. Trouble is, every bugger has a gun, including a lot of the looters no doubt.
I am not talking property; I'm talking food and medicine.
Well surely if you can afford a gun, you can afford to get out of the state for a bit.
Mind you, I realise that in the US guns are probably pretty cheap...
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iTunes is as user-friendly as it gets, what's to loathe about it?
I've said it before, but I don't understand these people that have constant problems with iPod batteries. I've had mine for years now and have no bother with it at all. What do these people do with them??
I don't like being forced to use their system, or forced to shop at their shops. Also, it doesn't play WMA files does it, which accounts for a lot of my collection? Do I have to convert these somehow, and will there be a loss of quality, and how long will it take?
Basically I hate the monopolistic attitude of Apple - I want something I can just drag and drop with MS windows, downloaded from anywhere. As for the batteries, I guess it's just luck.
I don't use iTunes with my iPod, I use anapod instead.
Now you've lost me.
There's loads of media players you can download to use with an ipod without having to use iTunes.
Have a look here:
www.ipodlounge.com
So are iPods the best then? Anyone any ideas?
Aye, we've done this one a few times. You'll get the gyppos with the iRivers and the Creative Zens turning up shortly telling you that they're better but they've basically got acute iPod envy. I don't know anyone personally that has an iPod that's been disappointed by it.
Just one question then. If I get an album of mp3s, from anywhere, can I easily get it to play on iPod? I mean without faffing around downloading software. And if I can, does this mean I am not forced to buy from Apple after all? If so, then I guess I'm interested.
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With the amount of gun-point robbery looting (including at hospitals) that occured in New Orleans, I'd say it's justified in this case.
Not worth dying over property imo. Trouble is, every bugger has a gun, including a lot of the looters no doubt.
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When I was in France there was a documentary on Hitler saying how he wanted to invade Paris without force as he loved the city and wanted to use that as the capital of his own super power. The Israeli who I was watching it (who's also Jewish), popped up with, "Oh, so he was a kind man afterall".
He was, he was...... people always said he was polite, kind and generous
he was pretty much a vegetarian, and hated cruelty to animals
Of course he also believed it was his duty to kill of all sorts of people
History teaches us that not every tyrant froths at the mouth and plays the violin while burning down Rome
J V Stalin was a great dancer, a very good singer and one hell of a party animal. he rembered people who had done him a good turn when he was down (unfortunately he was equally as good as rembering those who hadn't)
Never trust a vegetarian, tea total, animal lover tbh.
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iTunes is as user-friendly as it gets, what's to loathe about it?
I've said it before, but I don't understand these people that have constant problems with iPod batteries. I've had mine for years now and have no bother with it at all. What do these people do with them??
I don't like being forced to use their system, or forced to shop at their shops. Also, it doesn't play WMA files does it, which accounts for a lot of my collection? Do I have to convert these somehow, and will there be a loss of quality, and how long will it take?
Basically I hate the monopolistic attitude of Apple - I want something I can just drag and drop with MS windows, downloaded from anywhere. As for the batteries, I guess it's just luck.
I don't use iTunes with my iPod, I use anapod instead.
Now you've lost me.
There's loads of media players you can download to use with an ipod without having to use iTunes.
Have a look here:
www.ipodlounge.com
So are iPods the best then? Anyone any ideas?
Hurricane Rita - Looks bad for Houston this time
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Nice weather in New England though. The only place in the states I could see myself living, although I've never been to Seattle, admittedly.