Gemmill

I never did link to it in my signature. Seems you're not quite as intelligent as you like to believe. Happy to send you the link if you think you're bright enough to have a go though. You'll have no problem with the HT flying around, being as how you're so intelligent, like. 80001[/snapback] I made a mistake between signature and profile. I feel so foolish. Brilliant site though - I would LOVE the link.

I think I sometimes go OTT the opposite way with Shola when at the match and am a bit too enthusiastic in clapping if he does something half decent, in an attempt to counter the boo-ness.

Does this form part of your response to what you've been doing whilst others were harming the club? If so, I'm not sure you get retrospective credit if you've only done this today.

Yeah we probably do accept mediocrity easier than fans of the big clubs. But in the absence of trophies what else can you do but accept it? That's not being defeatist either, it's just a recognition that we are Newcastle United and they are Manchester United/Liverpool/Arsenal etc. They win trophies and we don't. I'm not gonna beat myself up about it - it disappoints me every year when we get knocked out of the cups, especially when a lesser club goes on to the final, or worse, wins it, but what's the alternative to accepting it? We're just the same as most clubs. 79941[/snapback] I don't know what the answer is, or even if there is an answer. However, I do take some solace in blaming you for everything, if you don't mind! 79944[/snapback] I've noticed that before today tbh.

Yeah we probably do accept mediocrity easier than fans of the big clubs. But in the absence of trophies what else can you do but accept it? That's not being defeatist either, it's just a recognition that we are Newcastle United and they are Manchester United/Liverpool/Arsenal etc. They win trophies and we don't. I'm not gonna beat myself up about it - it disappoints me every year when we get knocked out of the cups, especially when a lesser club goes on to the final, or worse, wins it, but what's the alternative to accepting it? We're just the same as most clubs.

Being second choice to Hughesinho. 79926[/snapback] Fair point. He'll never get Aaron Pele out of that position tbh 79930[/snapback] No shame in that though. What a player that lad is!

thats rubbish to be honest. in my opinion. We have plenty of players that could do a decent job up front in the squad, but because of numpty in charge the only way that would happen is for Shola to be injured. As harsh as it may seems, I think it is a good thing for the club. 79929[/snapback] Eh? Who are these players like? Please don't say Chopra.

I'll take up the mantle then. I believe that collectively fans like you HAVE harmed the club, by letting Souness get away with far too much and giving Shepherd no reason to sack him. By being fooled by mini-runs of acceptable results against shit opposition, when not taking into account the performances or the bigger picture. By lapping up his "cleaning up the dressing room", and applauding him getting rid of our best players. By clapping the team off after we were disgraced at Cardiff, and again on the last day of the season when we managed a draw in what was effectively a friendly against Chelsea. By being fooled yet again this year, when if it weren't for the unlikely signing of Owen we would probably be relegated. By branding skeptics as mad men, and burying your head in the sand as to what is happening at this club. Don't take it personally Gemmill , you are one of the majority that have let this situation arise. And you're right, I have done nothing personally to stop it, as I believe it is out of my power; I feel like a bandsman on the Titanic. But at least I could see what was coming. 79899[/snapback] What have you done that's different to what I have? Apart from being a bit angry on an internet message board. You say you saw it coming and you did nothing to stop it. And yet you absolve yourself of any blame and point the finger at others? The fact that you even blame other fans is IMO pathetic, but it's made even worse by the fact that you've done nothing more or less than those you point the finger at. 79908[/snapback] I beieve that collectively Newcastle fans have had some influence on Souness still being here, I think we are all to blame for that (me through apathy, you though stupidity ). But most the blame, infact nearly all the blame, lies with Shepherd for appointing Souness imo. Once again, what could one person do? 79920[/snapback] Why are you asking me what one person could do? It's you (and KCG) that's flinging the blame around. I've said I don't think the fans are responsible.

Agreed. Stick around smoggy bloke.

I've told you I've done nothing 79907[/snapback] I'll just stop you there if that's ok with you.

I'll take up the mantle then. I believe that collectively fans like you HAVE harmed the club, by letting Souness get away with far too much and giving Shepherd no reason to sack him. By being fooled by mini-runs of acceptable results against shit opposition, when not taking into account the performances or the bigger picture. By lapping up his "cleaning up the dressing room", and applauding him getting rid of our best players. By clapping the team off after we were disgraced at Cardiff, and again on the last day of the season when we managed a draw in what was effectively a friendly against Chelsea. By being fooled yet again this year, when if it weren't for the unlikely signing of Owen we would probably be relegated. By branding skeptics as mad men, and burying your head in the sand as to what is happening at this club. Don't take it personally Gemmill , you are one of the majority that have let this situation arise. And you're right, I have done nothing personally to stop it, as I believe it is out of my power; I feel like a bandsman on the Titanic. But at least I could see what was coming. 79899[/snapback] What have you done that's different to what I have? Apart from being a bit angry on an internet message board. You say you saw it coming and you did nothing to stop it. And yet you absolve yourself of any blame and point the finger at others? The fact that you even blame other fans is IMO pathetic, but it's made even worse by the fact that you've done nothing more or less than those you point the finger at.

Unfortunately, no matter what he's like at the minute, if he comes here we will destroy him.

Nope. Although you might just have given him an idea.

Lovely bloke tbh.

I'm still waiting to see what KCG was up to whilst I was busy "harming our club". I'm sure he'll tell us soon. The thing that I don't understand is, if you were in the enviable position of KNOWING what Souness was going to do (and there are plenty claiming that of themselves), and you just sat by and let it happen without doing anything about it, then surely that would make you more guilty than anyone else. Maybe the rant at the start of this thread was the product of KCG's guilty conscience. Not that I think ANY fans are to blame for our current situation like, but if we're playing childish blame games, that one's got to be worth considering.

Oy, walk the fucking walk. No wonder people think there's a hint of lavender in the air. 79796[/snapback] When did you turn to Judaism? 79798[/snapback] Oy, ma boy, don't change the subject. Play centre half unless you have a Dr's note, or in the case of N-O, a note with your Mam's signature forged on it. 79799[/snapback] I can't man. I play semi-professional and my club wouldn't let me.

Renton, you know as well as I do that the "Renton is mental" thing was a running joke, and I only used to say it because it used to get on your tits so badly. So don't even try that one. 79785[/snapback] I know it's a running joke Gemmill, but nevertheless it seems that my pessimism was well grounded in reality. Without the signing of Owen, we would have been in the same situation as Sunderland right now, which is frankly unbelievable really. The ironic thing is I think that despite being branded an unrealistic pessimist, I never thought things could get this bad (after our spending spree). Looks like Wullie was right all along! 79800[/snapback] Actually I think your negative thoughts are partly to blame for the current situation. A bit of Uri Geller style PMA is what was required, but instead all those little rainclouds that you and Wullie and your ilk carry round over your heads have formed a huge stormcloud which now casts a shadow over the whole club.

Oy, walk the fucking walk. No wonder people think there's a hint of lavender in the air. 79796[/snapback] When did you turn to Judaism?

Seems to me that he's had this injury since birth tbh.

Shearer could pay him off out of his own pocket. It would be like buying his first managerial role.

What a fucking Dick, if i ever get my hands on you I'll remove one of your balls with the blade on your ice hockey boot. 79583[/snapback] Have I struck a chord? 79621[/snapback] E # 79744[/snapback] No such thing.

manc-mag's canny good like if he can be arsed to drag his lazy arse up here for it. And SLP might be up for it as long as there's no female Swedish toddlers on their team. I'll come and watch.

Renton, you know as well as I do that the "Renton is mental" thing was a running joke, and I only used to say it because it used to get on your tits so badly. So don't even try that one.