Gemmill

I'll see your triplicate and raise you a quadruplicate.

Exactly. He's the Chairman and it's his and his board's job to structure the manager's contract such that he should never have to ask him to resign. The fact that he's had to resort to that underlines his own incompetence. As wrong as Souness is in his belief that he can put things right, it's Shepherd's responsibility to deny him that chance if he feels it's time. He can't expect Souness to leave and spare him (Shepherd) the cost of his incompetence when Souness feels he still has a job to do.

Jeff Powell will be loving this. How he gets his anti-Sven articles published, I'll never know. He's the worst kind of little Englander xenophobe.

A bigger man would hold up his hands and resign. Resignations happen all the time, even Gullit and politicians manage it occasionally! Souness is a rich man who doesn't need the money. He says he cares about his family - I fail to see how they can benefit from having a father or husband who is easily the most hated man in Newcastle. Souness has a heart condition - how can this mess be good for his health? No, he has no shame or dignity, he is an evil money-grabbing greedy cunt who is shafting all the fans. 83720[/snapback] The money - whether earned over the remainder of his contract, or paid in a lump sum when he's sacked - could set his kid's kid's kids up. And this is his last chance to earn that sort of money. He would be an idiot to resign and pass up on it IMO. 83727[/snapback] So Gullit was an idiot rather than someone who decided to do something honourable for once in his sorry reign at Newcastle was he? I never thought I'd praise Gullit but he is a far superior person than Souness it would seem. Souness has finally shown what motivates him and what type of person he really is. If I was in his position I would resign with some dignity rather than take this club to the wall, and I sincerely mean that. Obviously these values don't count for much any more though. 83735[/snapback] You have no way of knowing how you would react in a similar position. If you had a family and a potential payoff of millions of pounds awaited you if you stuck to your guns, I'm not so sure you'd hold your hands up and settle for nothing. As for Gullit, in his arrogance, he probably thought that the managerial world was still his oyster, and that he had his whole career ahead of him. I appreciate that what he did was an impressive gesture, but you can't seriously expect that to be the norm, and that any football manager not presently in favour will offer their resignation without compensation? Especially if they still believe they can turn things around.

Foul throw! Maybe he was a 'keeper.

A bigger man would hold up his hands and resign. Resignations happen all the time, even Gullit and politicians manage it occasionally! Souness is a rich man who doesn't need the money. He says he cares about his family - I fail to see how they can benefit from having a father or husband who is easily the most hated man in Newcastle. Souness has a heart condition - how can this mess be good for his health? No, he has no shame or dignity, he is an evil money-grabbing greedy cunt who is shafting all the fans. 83720[/snapback] The money - whether earned over the remainder of his contract, or paid in a lump sum when he's sacked - could set his kid's kid's kids up. And this is his last chance to earn that sort of money. He would be an idiot to resign and pass up on it IMO.

Bit melodramatic in that last paragraph. I don't think he's just holding out for the money, I think he genuinely believes he can get us playing better. You saw for yourself in his MOTD interview - "I believe I am getting the absolute best out of the players that I have available to me". As for ill-gotten gains, thanks to Shepherd it's money that he's contractually entitled to.

That's the same pocket that we buy players with though.... I want him gone now too, but it's not like Shepherd is being tight with his OWN money, it's the club's. 83524[/snapback] Simple solution: by way of acknowledging that him and Hall made a mistake in appointing Souness, they declare no dividend this year and use the money they would otherwise pay to themselves (and the other shareholders, but let's face it, most of them are fans and would forego the £1 or £2 they pick up to get rid of Souness) to get rid of the manager. In the past two years the dividend has been in the region of £5m...the same as the payoff that would supposedly be required to get rid of Souness and his team of coaches. Not gonna happen unfortunately, but it would go some way towards improving Shepherd's relationship with the fans if he had the brains and was prepared to admit to his error.

You're a fat bloke. See, I'm honest too. I'm not sure who you're trying to claim is dishonest btw.

Footsoldier is tomm0.

Lambrini actually. Whilst quaffing White Zinfandel.

He's quick and can beat his man and knocked an alright ball in on Saturday, but we've not seen enough of him to know what he's really like. Hopefully he's not one of these whose legs work quicker than his brain can.

I love the way he tries to rationalise it by blaming it on his metabolism. You're like those fatties that talk about their glands. "It's not MY fault! My metabolism won't play ball - it can't cope with my massive food intake. NO FAIR!"

For anyone wondering: the "Souness In" demonstration still goes ahead as planned. We have to make our voices heard!

Imagine going into a meeting knowing you might be sacked, but that if you are it'll be another million or so quid in the bank. Talk about a no-lose situation. "I'm afraid I'm going to have to sack you......on the plus side, you've basically just won the lottery."

You've hit rock bottom. Things will get better for you from now on.

I'll drive you there if you want. Then reverse over you when you get out. 83248[/snapback] Severe tyre damage tbh.

Lee Clark probably still can't believe that he's turning out for NUFC at St James Park, and knows that it's Souness that has given him the opportunity. I wouldn't expect him to be anything but supportive of the bloke. Sounds like he might come to my demonstration though.

He`ll be gone by then.. 83240[/snapback] "Souness back in" then!

I'm holding a "Souness In" demonstration outside SJP tonight at 6pm. There's only me going so far, so if anyone fancies it, I'll see you there. There is a joining fee of one chocolate bar per person, payable to me.

I bet you've actually expanded since last we saw you, slim. 83079[/snapback] lost weight bucko... whereas it sounds like you're stocking up for the summer... 83118[/snapback] I don't know how you dare! People can take the mick out of me and that, but you actually ARE a proper big fat bloke these days. With lovely chubby cheeks. 83233[/snapback] And as a student as well - just imagine what he'll be like when he's actually working for a living 83235[/snapback] Good point. Don't people normally lose weight as students cos they're skint and that?

How was it Gemmill? 83128[/snapback] Class. Did some of the new stuff which obviously no one knew with the album not being out til today (I think?), but did a lot of old Verve stuff an'all. The sound in the Sage is ridiculously good btw - you could almost be listening to the CD.

I bet you've actually expanded since last we saw you, slim. 83079[/snapback] lost weight bucko... whereas it sounds like you're stocking up for the summer... 83118[/snapback] I don't know how you dare! People can take the mick out of me and that, but you actually ARE a proper big fat bloke these days. With lovely chubby cheeks.

Agreed. Obviously some idiots think that that sort of thing will get him playing better.

Ooooo you are SO controversial!