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The best player by a country mile that you guys had this summer? 32001[/snapback] True but he's such a fucking wanker. He's the Craig Bellamy of Australian cricket.

Are you sure it wasn't tape? 31957[/snapback] hmmmm maybe...but I dont think so. 32002[/snapback] That was the one thing that always pissed me off about Robert, no I'm not getting into the other arguements. He always taped up the ankles so his socks never looked like Newcastle kit. (By the way anyone see that corner he flew in on Saturday!!!!)

Get away as much as I love the toon, na fuck it, get him in!

By the way can you guys keep Warne?

Yeah but El Tel still doesn't have a job!!!!!!!!!!

Alex we lost the cricket, how do you expect me to feel?

Not it's not that it doesn't stand up, you disagree because it doesn't match your opinion, that's life. By the way, I've played those gigs where you earn $200 as a headline but it costs you $250 to play it and guess what I was never going to pay the rent that way so I do something else now. Do you honestly think Henry Rollins doesn't release book after book after cd after cd to make a living? He may put something back by giving other bands a break and releasing their stuff on his label but it is still about money and if those he gives a hand to don't cut it, they're gone just like any other commercial interest. As for the kids don't start hardcore bands to be famous, bullshit - it is just a measure of fame. Playing in a band is about being famous, whether it be locally, nationally or internationally, whether you want ot be known by your local crowd or have a better opportunity to fuck that girl you like, whatever it is about fame of some sort! And from there things evolve, don't they. For a person that's not "straight edge" you're fighting a good fight.

Nope, never heard of him and I work in television so I'm fairly clued up on our stars! Actually if we look at the various people that have been mentioned in this list a lot of them weren't born here or only became successful after they "developed in England. Barry Humphries - Born here was a no-one then moved to UK and became famous. Dame Edna - As above but wearing a dress! Rolf Harris - As above but different person, no dress and owns a paint brush. Elle MacPherson - Great breasts forget the rest. Ned Kelly - Actually Irish Rodney Marsh - at least he is more interesting then the English one and doesn't put shite on the toon! Fosters - no-one drinks it here so I don't know if we can admit to owning it anymore. XXXX - yuk! Why is it called four X because Queenslanders can't spell beer. Mel Gibson - born Mel Columcille Gerard Gibson in Peekskill, New York State in 1956 and coming to Australia aged 12. For the Pud, Men without hats - Men at work were actually fronted by an Scotsman, Colin Hay. Olivia Newton John - Born: 26 September 1948 Cambridge, England. As for the rest of the list, yeah sorry about that but England is responsible for Robbie Williams and a host of other prats also so I'd say we are even. Alex as for your comment, that I've only just read, young man - England really needs to stop with that excuse. Friendly matches are important, every team needs to gel. Not complaining because there is no excuse for some of the results our football team has had over the years but the two tie knock out between the winner of Oceana and the 5th place South American team is harsh in that our team doesn't play enough together and then is required to beat a team that has just played 18 matches in their group stage, hence the move into Asia (and personally I think it should be the top two teams in Oceana group then play in the Asian group stages and not just Australia moving.)

Who is that? Obviously one of our more famous exports

LOOK! Explains a few things about their posting style.

Bet you would still be the meat in that sandwich! 31950[/snapback] Maybe..... But I'd still point out that our boys kicked your arse! 31956[/snapback] Well in Craig but to me it is no disappointment, Because I hate fucking cricket! It is a waste of a good football pitch. (3-1, 3-1) Sorry I'm living in the past aren't I? 31963[/snapback] Jesus wept..... That's bordering on "2-1, 2-1, FTM WTF LOL11!!" Howay Sammy, get a grip of yourself man!! (What was the score in the Rugby Union WC Final again? ) 31968[/snapback] I hate thugby to. Craig you got to understand how hard it is being a footballer in a place where my countrymen are sporting morons! Look at us, Shannnnnnnnne Warne, Leyton Hewittttttttttttttt, Ian Thorpe (will he ever come out?), and I can go on and on.

But it's not text speak, it's how he spells his name. It is really, listen to him. [insoutherndrawl] Hi I'm G Dub Y A Bush [/insoutherndrawl]

Bet you would still be the meat in that sandwich! 31950[/snapback] Maybe..... But I'd still point out that our boys kicked your arse! 31956[/snapback] Well in Craig but to me it is no disappointment, Because I hate fucking cricket! It is a waste of a good football pitch. (3-1, 3-1) Sorry I'm living in the past aren't I?

Of course it was a commercialisation. Just because it isn't on a global scale doesn't mean it isn't commercialised. As for there is no fucking money in it, live shows generate income, independant releases generate income, don't be niave and believe they weren't trying to make money and more so those that followed in their footsteps. Even bands like the Hard Ons who refused to change their name when asked by a mahjr US record label so they could be released in the states played music to make money, just because they didn't want to sell millions of copies of their releases, at the expense of changing their name, doesn't mean they didn't want to make a living. Lastly Rollin, yes you are right he has always maintained the fact he "doesn't" ingest "poison" NOW but he also admits to having done so at certain points in his life, along with an often spoken about enjoyment of casual sex. In many ways it is just like religion, believe what you want but keep it to yourself and don't judge others on your beliefs.

Smart lad isn't he? He has just left a team that has England's 1st choice striker because he wants a better opportunity to make the national team. Why doesn't he admit it he isn't first a team player. I watched the spurs v pool match and honestly he is put to shame by Davids. He pulls out of tackles, he would of scored on his debut if he wasn't such a soft player, you can actually see him stop and flinch from the front on angle. Maybe he blows Sven? (Please note this is a humorous allegation and should be taken in the humour it is intended in. Because truth is we all know he would have to get in line with the staff of the English FA for an opportunity and he's not that patient or dedicated!)

So what Blondie was crap?

Bet you would still be the meat in that sandwich!

Pud you mean Men at work, men without hats were canadian

Ok it has done it again! G Dub Y A!

Ok what is going on? I've just edited G Dub you three times and it keeps posting as G Dub you! Why is there a pedantic secret spell checker on here?

We just had a "day of action" in Sydney which involved drivers not filling up on September 1st and it actually had a big enough response that days later the subject was discussed in parliment. The opposition asked for the government to reduce their tax on fuel by 10 cents/litre to which they replied no that would cost us 8 billion dollars in lost revenue. The horrible truth is the world is being held to ransom by two fuel producing bodies, Saudi states and the US. Both who work together and oppose each other at every opportunity. It has been argued long and hard that the US invaded Iraq for the good of the world but lets be honest it is about oil, Iran is next and as leaders like G Dub you help their American fuel producing backers engulf more of the oil producing world, they and the saudi's and the Abromovich's of the world will screw the prices up to exploit the dependant consumers. What is worse is the English and Australian governments have helped and supported Bush in his actions, so maybe they need to reflect upon their actions and how it has contributed to the current oil price rises!

My two pence worth, minor threat and the straight edge movement was just one more moment in the commercial exploitation of youth through music. Growing up in that whole 80 US post punk, hardcore punk period it was obvious to any thinking, observing individual that it was just another label for people to hang their existance upon. I shared a house with a guy around that time who was the biggest minor threat fan and forgetting the fact that generally the music was shite, he was the biggest susbtance abuser that I knew. ChocChip, you asked about Rollins and whether he is straight edge, no he wasn't but he has evolved into something very similar. Black Flag, Chaotic Dischord, Exploited, crass, the decendants (also ALL as they became) were all just US hardcore bands from the 80s but as Henry has gotten older he has moved to a "straight edge" philosophy. Interestingly enough more so since his friend (and alleged but often denied male partner/lover) was murdered for which he was questioned. ChocChip as others have said there is no need to look for an ideology in music, listen to what you enjoy, what inspires you. If you like punk there is lots out there to find, go to amazon and check out what others are recommending (search for a band you like, ie. Bad Brains and then check out the listmania! on the right hand side of the page) but don't get sucked into a genre. Just remember Stryper (look them up if you don't know who they were) wanted the world to believe they were christian rock and in the end they were just a bunch of satanists (so don't believe the hype!)

Really should get over having an obsession about people's members.