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Invicta_Toon

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  1. Without reading the whole thread, I can safely say we have bungled yet another window. we signed Bungle? cool
  2. because he just signed a new contract?
  3. I would think we make more money from global mrchandising than Arse tbh
  4. alt.binaries.tv.shagging.sheep ?
  5. You are becoming boring. You are right, there aren't clubs in the whole of Europe who are doing transfers in advance. They all wait for deadline day. Sorry, my mistake. we're talking about before the window starts dumkopf Ok, just one example from the top of my head. Berbatov to Spurs last May, dipshit. 13 days before the window. wow. magnificent planning total coincidence that Spurs were the only club to exceed his buy out clause p.s. can you see a quote like this coming from someone about us right now :"The squad has some terrific young players, an excellent manager and coaching staff"
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  7. You are becoming boring. You are right, there aren't clubs in the whole of Europe who are doing transfers in advance. They all wait for deadline day. Sorry, my mistake. we're talking about before the window starts dumkopf
  8. a DOF would only be effective if, as a director as he is, he would be listened to by the other board members i.e. FF, which blatently wouldn't happen
  9. I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. I'll accept having the players in time for the start of pre season training instead of after the season starts for a change. Exactly. That's what pissed me off about Roeder big style last summer. When he took the job one of the first things he was saying was that he couldn't even afford a holiday because he has to assemble the squad for next season. The next thing was that he was off to Turkey for a couple of weeks. Then at some time in July he said that he has to sit together with Fat Fred and draw up a list of players they should go after. The "planning" and concluding of deals just always depends on the circumstances. At the moment Newcastle now too well what type of players they need (I hope they do). So they can look at those players and sound them out or unsettle them. A lot is done behind the scenes. And when it's clear that the opportunity of getting one of your targets arises you have to react. Then it doesn't matter if it is January, April or June. But it shouldn't be July and only under the worst circumstances August 31st. so you'd be happy if Arsene Wenger started having cosy little chats with N'Zogbia in a few months time? There are more subtle ways than that actually. if you contact a contracted player without the clubs knowledge you are breaching FA rules Don't try to be clever. It just doesn't suit you. As I said, there are a lot more subtle ways to do it without directly contacting players. FIFA statutes only forbid to do direct negotiations without contacting the club first. So you talk with agents, let other players talk to players etc. There are more ways than just directly meet in a London restaurant. so through all these chinese whispers and clandestine chats we are suppose to have concrete plans to sign 3 or 4 players by mid November? a contract will only be arranged through the club, unless it is for a free agent, for whom the window doesn't even apply So how come other clubs are able to finalise deals in advance when this is obviously impossible? like who?
  10. I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. I'll accept having the players in time for the start of pre season training instead of after the season starts for a change. Exactly. That's what pissed me off about Roeder big style last summer. When he took the job one of the first things he was saying was that he couldn't even afford a holiday because he has to assemble the squad for next season. The next thing was that he was off to Turkey for a couple of weeks. Then at some time in July he said that he has to sit together with Fat Fred and draw up a list of players they should go after. The "planning" and concluding of deals just always depends on the circumstances. At the moment Newcastle now too well what type of players they need (I hope they do). So they can look at those players and sound them out or unsettle them. A lot is done behind the scenes. And when it's clear that the opportunity of getting one of your targets arises you have to react. Then it doesn't matter if it is January, April or June. But it shouldn't be July and only under the worst circumstances August 31st. so you'd be happy if Arsene Wenger started having cosy little chats with N'Zogbia in a few months time? There are more subtle ways than that actually. if you contact a contracted player without the clubs knowledge you are breaching FA rules Don't try to be clever. It just doesn't suit you. As I said, there are a lot more subtle ways to do it without directly contacting players. FIFA statutes only forbid to do direct negotiations without contacting the club first. So you talk with agents, let other players talk to players etc. There are more ways than just directly meet in a London restaurant. so through all these chinese whispers and clandestine chats we are suppose to have concrete plans to sign 3 or 4 players by mid November? a contract will only be arranged through the club, unless it is for a free agent, for whom the window doesn't even apply
  11. you are assuming an awfull lot about the collective scum known as football agents you can have as many bids for as many players as you like out there, but as I've already said, what's the point if most aren't even considered well into the window as other things fall into place and the requirements of teams are truly known.
  12. I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. I'll accept having the players in time for the start of pre season training instead of after the season starts for a change. Exactly. That's what pissed me off about Roeder big style last summer. When he took the job one of the first things he was saying was that he couldn't even afford a holiday because he has to assemble the squad for next season. The next thing was that he was off to Turkey for a couple of weeks. Then at some time in July he said that he has to sit together with Fat Fred and draw up a list of players they should go after. The "planning" and concluding of deals just always depends on the circumstances. At the moment Newcastle now too well what type of players they need (I hope they do). So they can look at those players and sound them out or unsettle them. A lot is done behind the scenes. And when it's clear that the opportunity of getting one of your targets arises you have to react. Then it doesn't matter if it is January, April or June. But it shouldn't be July and only under the worst circumstances August 31st. so you'd be happy if Arsene Wenger started having cosy little chats with N'Zogbia in a few months time? There are more subtle ways than that actually. if you contact a contracted player without the clubs knowledge you are breaching FA rules
  13. No I can't really see that scenario happening. I'm fully aware that we are not the club that everyone would like (and lots believe) but we're hardly Torquay now are we. Surely if we put out some feelers well in advance we would have time to work out who is interested (in selling/coming here) and then move on to other options if necessary. And do you not think that by definition if you wait until the last day to try to make signings then you have lost the oppertunity for the player(s) to be at the club and settling to their new surroundings and actually playing games? we didn't wait till the last day, it is quite clear none of the deals lined up earlier on panned out. We can still try other options until the last day, that's why it's called deadline day... iirc Chelsea only sold someone on the last day because it was dependant on another late deal transferring players any time in January is not going to allow them time to settle in is it? No one is saying that we have waited through the whole of January til we got to the last day before starting to do anything. What we are saying is if we had done things properly and started things off well before January started we would have known we had to change targets a lot earlier and give ourselves the time to do this. You can talk to other clubs outside the transfer window to find out if they would be receptive to bids for their players. Manure had Larsson lined up ages ago! The point you make about the Cole/Gallas deal is fair enough but they could afford to wait because if it hadn't gone through they still would have had the quality in their teams to cover this. We do not and therefore shouldn't be relying on something like this. If you transfer a playing on the 1st of January you have a whole month extra to bed someone in than you would on the 31st no? It would also mean they could have played in four or five more games. But that is irrelevant. Because if we had properly planned in the summer we wouldn't have been desperate for players now would we? you talk as if every transfer is done soley by one club to the player directly and no other party is ever involved In reality, if we contact a player in November (through his club via his agent which is the normal non-actionable way) then either, his agent will spark up and start to try and get a better deal out of his current club due to this 'new interest', or he will start phoning around other clubs in the hope of attracting a bidding war. Either way, nothing is likely to be done and dusted before the real deals can be done in the window. It happens this way for all levels and nationalities of transfer, and the exception is the special case where the player is definitely going to move and only to the buying club for a specific reason, i.e. Larson, Shearer, and the countless players that keep following a particular manager around different clubs.
  14. that bloke does look like a guy off my course where'd you find that pic?
  15. so now people want stopgaps for our stopgaps?
  16. our performance in the market is linked to our performance as a team / plc / sporting club
  17. I'm sure virtually everyone is in agreement that you are talking complete random shite about transfers, whether you actually believe what you are posting yourself or not is a moot point. Anyway, I was referring to your general contribution, mainly on General Chat. Do you think swearing makes you look hard btw? how is it random if it concerns the topic in question? and on GC, again, the very same statement without backing it up. You're not getting the idea here are you? I'll bring it up next time you post some random unfunny shite on GC, no way am I suffering reading your crap twice just to satisfy you. Btw, Alex has already pulled you up on some random shite you have come up with on the transfer threads. if you're looking for an argument, try and make sure it's a decent one, ffs. so is your definition of random shite really 'making a point on the subject at hand which is subsequently refuted and argued over'? If so, go and buy a fucking dictionary you tit as for waiting in GC stalking my every post, just sub the job out to Patrickwheeze, he already does that. I look forward to your very first successful sighting. Alternatively, you could just go and get a fucking life!
  18. No I can't really see that scenario happening. I'm fully aware that we are not the club that everyone would like (and lots believe) but we're hardly Torquay now are we. Surely if we put out some feelers well in advance we would have time to work out who is interested (in selling/coming here) and then move on to other options if necessary. And do you not think that by definition if you wait until the last day to try to make signings then you have lost the oppertunity for the player(s) to be at the club and settling to their new surroundings and actually playing games? we didn't wait till the last day, it is quite clear none of the deals lined up earlier on panned out. We can still try other options until the last day, that's why it's called deadline day... iirc Chelsea only sold someone on the last day because it was dependant on another late deal transferring players any time in January is not going to allow them time to settle in is it?
  19. Had missed too many games in the last couple of seasons too. Let's make an inquiry about Woodgate then. has it not occured to anyone that Campbell might only be doing OK because he is not under any pressure, his last job before Pompey didn't exactly finish well did it? Playing at SJP would have undoubtedly sent him back to the looney bin So, is he a headless chicken still? Or would that only be the case if he'd came here? going after the likes of campbell would be behaving like a headless chicken, not he is the headless chicken FFS
  20. I'd love to think that was for a laugh, following Renton's comments about the random shit you post. I fear that would be giving you far too much credit though Again, I would not be surprised if people took it literally. The point being, when do we start contracting players ready for the first day of the summer window? Now? In 2 months? In May? Seriously, how far forward does it have to be to be good 'planning' and getting one over on every other manager who seem to be more than able to start and complete deals inside the window. I'll accept having the players in time for the start of pre season training instead of after the season starts for a change. Exactly. That's what pissed me off about Roeder big style last summer. When he took the job one of the first things he was saying was that he couldn't even afford a holiday because he has to assemble the squad for next season. The next thing was that he was off to Turkey for a couple of weeks. Then at some time in July he said that he has to sit together with Fat Fred and draw up a list of players they should go after. The "planning" and concluding of deals just always depends on the circumstances. At the moment Newcastle now too well what type of players they need (I hope they do). So they can look at those players and sound them out or unsettle them. A lot is done behind the scenes. And when it's clear that the opportunity of getting one of your targets arises you have to react. Then it doesn't matter if it is January, April or June. But it shouldn't be July and only under the worst circumstances August 31st. so you'd be happy if Arsene Wenger started having cosy little chats with N'Zogbia in a few months time? Seriously Vic, are you doing this deliberately? so am I limited in the amount of times I can disagree with someone now? Can we sort something out then? I'll start the bidding at 20 counter-arguments a day....
  21. Had missed too many games in the last couple of seasons too. Let's make an inquiry about Woodgate then. has it not occured to anyone that Campbell might only be doing OK because he is not under any pressure, his last job before Pompey didn't exactly finish well did it? Playing at SJP would have undoubtedly sent him back to the looney bin
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