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Big clubs are willing to speculate. Thats the difference. We are a farm club.

Some clubs have ambition and some don't. We don't. Because we aren't a big club. Never have been.

Not if darren Bent is worth 24 mill

Fair post, I don't think "forced into it" was fundamentally what I meant. Influenced by the club? Yes, I could see that. Not for a minute do I honestly think he desperately wants to stay and is only going because he was somehow made to hand in a request. Neither do I. I think he wanted to go. And honestly, I don't fucking blame him. He knows there's a ceiling on wages here, and that he'll have his work cut out negotiating contracts etc. And what's that? Fucking Liverpool will double my wage tomorrow?! (I wouldn't be surprised if they've more than doubled his money) And I get a cut of this fucking ludicrous transfer fee too? You can't blame him for wanting to go man. We are going nowhere under this bloke. Don't forget it's only a month or two ago that these twats completely destabilised the club by sacking the manager for no good reason and replaced him with one that's mediocre at best. If I was Andy Carroll's adviser, I couldn't do anything other than tell him to GTFO of Newcastle. This. Immensely, this (and can see the bit with the transfer request). Or fatboy has just been trying to delay it as long as possible so he gets to sit on £35m or whatever and not have to spend it cos its too late in the window to bring anyone else in. exactly, which is what a few of us have thought and said. That was the fat mans "plan". Although its a typical sad situation LM, you have to have a laugh at the youngsters on here who think that they know anything about Newcastle, their history and perhaps football in general. Delusional, most of them.

Re-invested in the casino.

We're after West Brom's position as the most financially sound yo-yo club around. Certainly looks like it. No doubt some people will find a way to call it successful.

This is why we aren't a big club. Apart from a couple of years, we've always been a selling club. If he doesn't go now, he'll go in the summer.

I just logged on. Thought I'd missed something.

Are you serious?

It's nee Raleigh Activator mind, the pauper. This is photoshopped. There is no way the useless twat can ride a bike and eat an apple at the same time.

Or to put it another way, what would a frog know about football?

Why would you say that?

Truth be told, that's a load of shite propagated by the teams that Leeds beat. Particularly the soft shite down south who had their share of hard players as well. Just that their hard players couldn't play as well as Leeds hard men. Tackles used to fly in in those days and every team had a Tommy Smith and Newcastle had their share. But, hey Stevie. Why let the facts disrupt your little world order. By the way, Kenny Fucking Burns was one of the dirtiest twats going at Forest and Birmingham.

As for fuck all like us. Tell that to Bob Moncur, John McGrath, Ollie Burton, Pat Howard. I can still hear Ernie Hunt screaming when John McNamee kicked him six feet high over the track. FFS. Nowt like us.

That's your problem. You don't know what they were like because you didn't see them play. You seem to think that football was always played by the tarts that go down at the drop of a hat and roll around like they've been shot that we see today.

T'Leeds Rhino's? Where am I wrong? More to the point why am I delusional? I've never said we're a big club, I just said we're a bigger club than Leeds and we are. Marching On Together ring tone you have I would put £100 on it now. I knew all along you were a Leeds fan, just call me John Nettles pal. More like Inspector Clouseau.

Stevie, I like your enthusiasm and harmless delusional state of mind. But, sad to say, once again, you are wrong. As I mentioned on another thread, three years in Bradford and the only highlight was watching Leeds at their peak which made them a team I like. Second to......Yes you've guessed it.

What our 11 trophies to your 6. Fred Truman couldn't have put it better himself. No further questions your honour. Problem is, Stevie. All of that is true. This was in the discussion of what makes a big club, and you think its an impressive stadium and a big crowds. I don't think that s enough and said so. THese factors plus winning trophies makes you a big club. Leeds did that and as much as you hate it, it happened. That doesn't make me a Leeds supporter by stating the obvious.

I'm hadding on.

Where did I say that? Your point was that you don't care about history, you care about the here and now. My point was that your statement was an odd one. As if we could move into a flatpack IKEA stadia and suddenly become a club swimming in trophies. I'll restate my point, because it's clearly gone over your head. Nobody started supporting Newcastle because they were definitely going to win trophies. They support Newcastle because they're from the area, or their family supports the club, or have another emotional attachment to the club. They didn't look at a list of league sides and pick us out because we're going to win trophies. Of course it would be amazing if we started a period of unrivalled success, but I'm not going to stop supporting Newcastle if we continue this barren spell, now am I? Where did I say that? I have no idea how you came up with that. No, my point is that I'm tired of people saying we have a great stadium and fantastic support. I couldn't give a fuck if people are impressed with the ground. I want them to be impressed with the trophy cabinet..... wherever it is.

Shut up you old Yorkshire boring cunt. The evidence all over this board of you being a Leeds fan is undeniable and compelling. Really? Where?

In your mind, I am. But we all know your mind is fucked up.

I find it rather odd that you don't understand the point I'm making. I aslo find it odd that you think that "we" aren't that bothered about winning silverware and are more interested in some package deal whatever that might mean. I'm not in that "we".

Wasn't he one of their best players under Hughes? Yes. He was.

Man city couldn't do it either.