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Source? If they did sack Wise though on what grounds would it be? You can't just dismiss people on a whim without some come back from the person getting the boot. The only thing I can think of would be a redundency, that might work if his job no longer existed. A management re-structure which will offer Wise a position on the coaching staff and offer Jiminez and Vetere scouting roles. Of course, if they don't want to accept these new roles... I like the sound of that, sounds like the sort of thing they do where I work when they want to get shot of someone.

Source? If they did sack Wise though on what grounds would it be? You can't just dismiss people on a whim without some come back from the person getting the boot. The only thing I can think of would be a redundency, that might work if his job no longer existed.

Was that a tumble-weed that rolled past?

I'm undecided on that, I mean £12m for Milner is pretty damn good... but then like you say the squad is pretty thin. Hard to make a choice for what would best with that really.

Tomorrow it'll be "wide of the mark" Wish it wasn't tbh.

ask Stevie to ask her if she has drowned in her own yeasty batter? Christ man, I've only just eaten

Mainly by Parky tbf I think it's fair to say that something (or things) happened very recently that were the final straw for the bloke. I sincerely believe he's acting with the fans best interests at heart too. I'm completely unconvinced the others are doing the same. I will stand with him. No worries. I have no doubt he was with us....to the end... I agree, I don't think he had any allies once Mort went either. None with any influence anyway. I think we are beginning to realise what a decent man Mort was. Its not a question of deceny, think its a question of politics. I posted this on NO last night, dont have muc time today so havent edited it for this thread but you'll get the gist as alex has already said virtually the same thing earlier on in this thread. Listen to the man, he speaks a lot of sense (yesterday as well). Chez for chairman. You've got to hand it to him, it makes a lot of sense.

Lol, that's get him mate

please be true bout reliance Question is, would Keegan still be here by the time they took over? And if he was would they keep him?

If we want to compete we'll need someone with more dough. Simple as, really. I'd rather there were no foreign billionaires owning English clubs but that isn't going to happen, is it? I'd take them just for the excellent food that's likely to be served up at half time, and nobody's going to complain about the new owner downing an onion bahji while sitting with the fans.

Not sure he has now. Still don't think this will be resolved in the long run though. It's a complete fucking mess. Also, if the results aren't great (because let's face it, the squad isn't anything special) and we have a bad run the media will heap pressure upon KK regardless of the backing of the fans. Any little thing now will be blown up into a massive dispute etc. It doesn't look good either way. I still think he is gone, but I think if he stays there will be big chnages to prevent a reoccurence. I wouldnt think for a second Ashley or Keegan would let this happen again. Having typed that I realise the chanes of Keegan staying are even less than I thought If the problems are around the structure of the club there is no chance of Keegan staying, simply because they were put in place for continuitity from one manager to the next. If it's down to who has final say there could be some movement. I was thinking more of changes to personel than structure, though I agree that KK would plainly need to excersise greater influence on decisions. I dont think the structure is all bad by the way Ashley has to seriously weigh up what's of more worth to this club, the current chairman and DoF or Keegan as manager. Baring in mind that the fans don't like the first two and Keegan's the one putting passion in the team it's a no brainer really. Moneywise if he ditches Keegan he's shooting himself in the foot, the other two however are expendable. Ashley has a way out of this mess, if he turns round and says he wasn't involved but is prepared to go with Kev's judgement then he can use Wise and Lambias as scapegoats, meaning he comes out fairly unscathed and still able to sit amongst the fans.

From Theregulars on NO. Makes sense to me. Whether or not it's genuine ITK, it sounds about right. If KK has no say in who comes and goes, I can't see him tolerating that situation for long and why should he? It's his head on the block and he should at least be able to shape the squad as he sees fit. How he's expected to achieve things after that transfer window is beyond me, and he's been so undermined it's no surprise to me he's threatening to walk away Sounds very plausible tbh, if it is true I hope that Kev sees clearer this morning and agrees to come back and the club make sure he's happy.

Back down on what exactly? The Transfer window is closed. No-one's been sold that he wanted to keep, not since he said it was his choice to sell Milner anyway. Keegan has happily gone along with the set-up for 8 months They're the ones that made this mess, they need to fix it. If they made promises to Keegan and haven't followed through with them then had the cheek to call his bluff when he's blown up about it then they need to back down and admit they were wrong. I don't see Kev returning though because it'd always be underlying now and the press would never leave it alone, Kev couldn't work with Fat Ashley and Wise. IF, and it's a big if, Ashley was going to try and sort it out he'd need to dismiss Wise as a gesture that Keegan isn't being undermined. Aye. It's all if's. The only thing we know is Keegan hasn't been sacked and his most recent comments have been about how happy he was with player acquisitions and departures up until Saturday. I don't know if Keegan's been misled, but he's been lying to the fans one way or another. I don't understand, are you supporting Ashley in all this? I don't know. I'm just postulating on the facts we have. Keegan can't argue it's like the Swindon resignation, because he'd only been in the job a few weeks then. 8 months is a long time to go before realising you don't have the control you need. Half of that time being an open transfer window. I know it's sacreligious, but maybe it was Keegan's mistake to agree to the job as advertised in the first place. Wash your mouth out with soap!!!

Back down on what exactly? The Transfer window is closed. No-one's been sold that he wanted to keep, not since he said it was his choice to sell Milner anyway. Keegan has happily gone along with the set-up for 8 months They're the ones that made this mess, they need to fix it. If they made promises to Keegan and haven't followed through with them then had the cheek to call his bluff when he's blown up about it then they need to back down and admit they were wrong. I don't see Kev returning though because it'd always be underlying now and the press would never leave it alone, Kev couldn't work with Fat Ashley and Wise. IF, and it's a big if, Ashley was going to try and sort it out he'd need to dismiss Wise as a gesture that Keegan isn't being undermined. Aye. It's all if's. The only thing we know is Keegan hasn't been sacked and his most recent comments have been about how happy he was with player acquisitions and departures up until Saturday. I don't know if Keegan's been misled, but he's been lying to the fans one way or another. I don't understand, are you supporting Ashley in all this?

not being an arse, but how the fuck would they know? We can hope I guess but it could just be that he hasn't resigned 'yet'

Back down on what exactly? The Transfer window is closed. No-one's been sold that he wanted to keep, not since he said it was his choice to sell Milner anyway. Keegan has happily gone along with the set-up for 8 months They're the ones that made this mess, they need to fix it. If they made promises to Keegan and haven't followed through with them then had the cheek to call his bluff when he's blown up about it then they need to back down and admit they were wrong. I don't see Kev returning though because it'd always be underlying now and the press would never leave it alone, Kev couldn't work with Fat Ashley and Wise. IF, and it's a big if, Ashley was going to try and sort it out he'd need to dismiss Wise as a gesture that Keegan isn't being undermined.

Could they actually manage to spin this to make Keegan the bad guy. I'm confused and tired. Nothing they can do will make me believe Kev's at fault. Ashley can fuck off if he thinks it's possible - they need to back down and sharpish.

Didn't you already tell us this once today? We don't care...

Like what? I am pretty sure MA has let it be known what he is doing from the start, cutting the wage bill and running NUFC like a business. Chris Mort negotiated the return of Keegan. As I say I am sure it would have all been explained to him. I am sure the team isnt what Ramos envisioned on joining Spurs, but he will do the best with what he has and hope we can get what we need. Different clubs though isn't it, yours is a non-entity probably not the best time to get into that particular debate. No, but then I don't see yours grabbing the headlines

Yesterday, All my troubles seemed so far away, Now it looks as though they're here to stay, Oh, I believe in yesterday.

Allegedly

Like what? I am pretty sure MA has let it be known what he is doing from the start, cutting the wage bill and running NUFC like a business. Chris Mort negotiated the return of Keegan. As I say I am sure it would have all been explained to him. I am sure the team isnt what Ramos envisioned on joining Spurs, but he will do the best with what he has and hope we can get what we need. Different clubs though isn't it, yours is a non-entity

You could look at it like that, I don't and I'm sure the majority of people that know anything about the club don't either. I think what I'm trying to say is if you don't know what you're talking about perhaps you should just shut the fuck up.

That's one hell of a small target though mate