TheMoog

Yes but 10,000 people not buying a pie isn't going to make the headlines. The visual protests will have a bigger long term impact IMO. The worry is that the visual protests will be fifty wet blokes under a soggy misspelled banner, weakly chanting "sack the board". Then the very real anti-Ashley sentiment will be forgotten by the mass media, to be replaced with "Lets laugh at the silly Geordies". I'd be behind a march if it was an idea that had been undertaken by the fans en masse, but it won't be. Frankly who gives a shit if fifty blokes stand outside the ground, when there's 35,000 inside? And if everyone thinks like that there really will just be about 50 people because the majority of people won't turn up 'in case they're the only one'.

Might as well bring Ince in, I'm sure there's a large section of fans who'd roll over and accept it within a couple of weeks.

Great effort this, it's good to see there's people who've forgotten what happened last week already. This international break came at a good time for Fat Cunt. I guess I've become a radical amongst the usual fans for not wanting anything to do with the ground on matchday.

It's all a bit mental at the moment, I mean we're being linked with Ince, Wise, O'Leary and Gus Poyet... I mean it doesn't exactly make you think that Fat Cunt's trying to make amens on fucking up with Keegan does it - it's more like he's going out of his way to annoy everyone as much as possible and destroy the club from within.

Wtf is going on with his do? ... oh, and apparently he might end up at Man Citeh on a free.

I'd love to know what this is about

That's the difficulty faced, if you've already paid for your season ticket then it's only yourself that's dipping out, initially anyway. Still, 1-3 games from an entire season probably doesn't work out to be much in the grand scheme of things and would indeed send a clear message. I couldn't urge anyone else to do the same though because it's easy to say what I'd do when I haven't paid for said ticket. I guess the way to look at it is deciding what is for the greater good and the long term outcome, and anyone going to the game must boycott any in ground sales, wear older shirts and make a banner protest - I'm sure the players know who the fans are unhappy with so any boos, jeers and general nastiness won't bother them.

Fantastic article, 100% spot on. I wish more people would read it and see the sense in it tbh.

It's Ashley's model. He never actually closes down a store, but constantly advertises a closing down sale. Hmm... keep the club in permanent crisis. Keeps the running costs and fan's expectations down tbh

What we need is more people like me - I buy an ST and fuck all else - I've never bought anything in the ground (anyone who can't last 2 hours without a pie and pint is a fucking idiot) and I haven't owned a strip since I was about 14. It would be interesting to know what proportion of total income is made up by the "lesser" things people could affect. I think disillusionment will take care of the non ST part of the crowds until xmas. I'm pretty much the same. I can'tbe doing with queueing ages for a shite, expensive pint. Can't remember the last time I bought anything inside the ground As I'm not a ST holder I guess my protest could start straight away. *goes away to consider it* Perhaps none season ticket holders could arrange to go and spend £50 each in Sports Direct on Saturday.....then give it a fortnight and all return their items en masse. The fat fool will have already spent the cash on champagne and non-alcoholic lager, so the refunds will bankrupt him. Mwoooooohahahahahahaha

At last. Someone has just realised. That's why I want him, and only him, out. Wise is Ashleys man, you wont get rid of Wise without getting rid of Ashley. Maybe, maybe not, but I'd like to think Wise could be forced out with the right approach. Ashley has backed Wise over Keegan to the extent he was celebrating in New York in the aftermath of Keegans celebration. I cant see any way of forcing out Wise Also why I dislike and distrust Fat Cunt

Take a flask

This is the thing that's preying on my mind. How little "success" will be needed to have the fans forgive the club (I say club, I mean board and establishment, but club is shorter (I understand I could have just written that in the beginning, thereby saving me this explanation as well (I'm aware that I'm an idiot))). Will three wins on the bounce, as Fop suggests, placate the masses? Above all else, I want this club, the club I love, to be successful. Of course I'm vehemently opposed tot he way they've treated Keegan and the way they've acted, BUT, if this period of turmoil brings genuine and long lasting "success" I don't think I can hold a grudge. If what they've done results in glory and much needed improvement of the club on and off the pitch... do the ends justify the means? I know this is probably going to piss off a few people, but it's the truth. I'm angry, hurt and upset... but I've also got one eye on the future. Which is exactly why Ashley will get away with using the club as a cash cow, fans cant help supporting the club. Ashley is an asset stripper, a pile em high sell em cheap barrow boy. He has got his cockney spiv mates running the club with one aim only imo - to bleed it dry and then sell it on. Sounds about right.

That's a good question, I'm sure part of every fan craves success for their club but would it feel tainted? If their plan was for Wise to have the final say on all transfers they should have been clear on that from the start, as it is they've made a Legend of our club look like a fool and that doesn't sit well with me at all.

I do agree with you, but the fans don't have to line Ashley's pockets, without an income from the fans he'd have no choice other than to move on - I guess it shows that the only real power fans have is consumer power, which is shakey and unorganised at best. People might not like it and you're right that the majority of other Newcastle fans I've spoken to as well are feeling the same as me but it's whether the fans will stick to a boycott or cave in which worries me, sometimes it's easier to just give in and therein lies the problem.

Wise has probably spoken to us but we just haven't heard him because he's so small...

Not in my eyes, I don't care who comes in. Still, I see this happening as people give in to apathy, Ashley will win eventually and the country will be proven right that Newcastle Utd fans will take any amount of rubbish and be thankful for it. Pathetic. No offence but outside of posting on a message board and intimating that everyone else is going to give in to the current regime, what exactly are you doing in your battle against Ashley. Hehe, I knew someone would ask that. I myself won't be attending any future matches, won't buy any merchandise, won't renew subs linked to the club (ie SkySports and the net radio service), anything that will give money to the club. Sadly I'm not near enough to protest outside the club otherwise I'd be busy with that for match day. Other than that I'm trying to convince people where I am that Ashley's screwed us over and it's not just Keegan bottling it. ... I know, I'm not a season ticket holder (thankfully as things stand) and I'll likely get shot down for it but I have managed to get to a few games in recent years, it doesn't hurt me trying to encourage people does it?

I see what you're saying and I agree to support the team (away from the ground) but anyone coming in is going to be agreeing to be part of the Ashley regime and in my eyes part of the problem. I can't support any part of the managerial setup while Fat Cunt's running the show. Anyone seen supporting the team is going to be seen by the media as supporting Ashley or at the very least accepting the club as it stands. This is what I have a bit of a problem with: the argument about the set up at NUFC. How do we know, for certain, what the set up is and what involvement the manager has with bringing players in?? All we have is Keegan walking out in a huff. Now this could be because he took a hissy fit at not being allowed to buy Henry. If that's the case then who's wrong, Keegan or the set up ??? Who's to say that the set up is wrong?? The only proof will be in the results and the abilities of the players brought in. I haven't been able to see any of the new boys but all I have read from this message board is that they look pretty good. If that's the case then the set up is working, yes??? If the set up proves to be working well, then NUFC will move forward without going into mega debt - surely a win win situation. As I've said before, the problem I see with this set up is that good signings will be poached by the more affluent clubs, meaning NUFC will remain mid-table for evermore. My problem with the hierarchy at sjp is Wise; always has been, always will be. That's all fair enough bud, thing is from what I've seen (without going in to quotes) the club has lied on several occasions recently and I'm less inclined to believe them than I am Keegan. Besides which with Keegan onboard there was a genuine feeling of excitement and that we were all in this together, even the players were seemingly loving it again. There's less evidence towards Keegan throwing a hissy fit for not being allowed to bring in players like Henry than there is for Ashley and Wise fucking things up - I won't be happy until the Fat Cunt's out the door.

I see what you're saying and I agree to support the team (away from the ground) but anyone coming in is going to be agreeing to be part of the Ashley regime and in my eyes part of the problem. I can't support any part of the managerial setup while Fat Cunt's running the show. Anyone seen supporting the team is going to be seen by the media as supporting Ashley or at the very least accepting the club as it stands.

See, the bastards are just taking the piss out of the fans and there's fans out there that will take it.

I just wish a few more people could hold out until Ashely is ousted, it wouldn't take long if he though match attendances were going to dwindle.

I think as the week passes though fans following that mind set are becoming less and less, I'm with you though mate.

Sad but true, of course that won't happen though because people don't see the bigger picture, they're just piss and wind.

Had a vote in favour of KK didn't they? Ultimately if the supporters don't co-operate or withhold monies for various things the business starts to fail. He'll get out while he can still get a decent price. I'd love to think that were true but people won't hold out, they'll start buying merchandise and continue to line Fat Cunt's pockets. I'm sure when all is said and done he'll be laughing at the fans of Newcastle Utd like everyone else in the country, the majority have no backbone for a fight.