Toonpack

Not a real Hibs fan,obviously

Progress, we've gone from all of them, to many of them. Hurrah !!!! There is hope, bold bit let's it down mind.

Course he hasn't, he's never been North of the central belt, that "Stevie central belt" where Eyemouth is mind, not the real central belt. Not been to OF at Tynecastle (my lad has and it was "rough" as anything he's seen) been a few times myself but recall saw them play Aberdeen one year and it was poisonous, carnage afterwards an all. Around the same time saw them play Dundee Utd and it was completely different.

I used the term for your benefit you nugget. The historical links will always exist in some minority (and in the minds of eejit's I suppose that means all Hearts fans are biggots) as will the racist element still be present at NUFC (in a minority). Strangely I know several Hearts fans (my son being a reasonably frequent visitor as well, him knowing a lot more than me) and despite that I should believe your view (and lets face it your views on just about everything are stark raving lunacy), aye OK. To tar everyone with the same brush is ridiculous. All football fans are hooligans after all aren't they?

Nowt like pedantry man !

"Were" dimwit. Btw - I'll take the word of people I know, who know what it's like these days i.e. go to Hearts games thanks. I suppose the BNP/EDL sympathising supporters who attend SJP make NUFC a fascist club. NIFC was a horrendous place for racism, it's isn't now. The Wee Huns view of their "cousins", why don't you check the number of sympathy posts in this 33,500 long thread: http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/106910-rangers-newco-refused-admittance-to-spl/page__st__33520 Dunno why I bother to honest it's like debating with a special needs scratter, and no I haven't "gorra tab, mate"

Then maybe some should take a look at themsleves. "Seek and though shalt find" I believe, is the phrase.

Nowt to do with being a cunt, it's patently obvious from your behaviour that you hate the Scots (well using the Stevie-ometer it does anyway). A/Pundit probably mentioned the real thing behind this and that's the Scots do have a significant "national pride" I guess that's why the more precious amongst us could interpret that as a de facto hatred of the English. Can only go of personal experience and I have had the absolute opposite of any feelings of hatred anywhere in years and years up north. Of course I have seen the "anyone but England" shirts etc and been in bars when England were playing (with a mixed crowd) and yes if you are football precious "they hate the English" and yet for all that "hatred" I've not seen any bother. BTW when it comes to the football "hatred" you can probably thank Emlyn Hughes for that. They hate the English no more than we hate the Mancs/Scouse/Cockneys. Hate being a bollocks word to use anyway.

WTF

As are Hearts in the main, these days. There is one bastion of sectarianism and that's the OF. btw My son has sung that song. amongst other places, in a Partick bar with mixed fans so as with many things football songs travel and of course that would mean in Stevie world Partick fans must be wee, wee huns to Hearts' wee huns in Stevie world. The point I was trying to make was that to generalise a whole population/fanbase on the actions of a few is ridiculous, the issue with Rangers (rip) is that it is all but institutionalised (and perhaps also in the senior echelons of the game with all those Rangers(rip) shareholders in high positions).

Times have changed man, it's like saying Newcastle Utd are still one of the most racist crowds in the country. I've lived/worked north of the border for over 10 years in the last 15. You reckon you've been up there loadsand they all hate the English, says it all tbh. Anyway fuck off, let the people who know what they are talking about, get on with it.

Bollocks 1st article a (singular) 19 year old man. And sectarian chanting when Celtic sing IRA songs, what would you expect theresponse would be. Stick to what you know, which I think is probably bad gambling on anything else you are clueless. Newcastle racist ??? http://www.huffingto..._n_1191238.html

Aye whatever, apart from the Rangers fans I've seen (with mine own eyes - in The Monkey House for the record) in bars in Aberdeen with Aberdeen fans also "in". Wasn't rammed mind but they were there. I'm sure Aberdeen fans would love to be tagged as "getting along with Rangers fans". Just talked to my lad, he reckons the atmosphere when either of the OF "come to town" is absolutely poisonous, he adds his Hearts mates actually hate Rangers more than they do Celtic. There's a song he's just told me: Hello Hello How do you do We Hate those boys in Royal Blue We hate those boys in emerald green So fuck the Pope and fuck the Queen There's an over 800+ page long thread on Kickback about Ranger's tribulations by the way, it positively oozes support for Rangers obviously

It's always an "element" can't tar the majority. Aberdeen despise Rangers but I've seen Rangers fans "on the sauce" in Aberdeen on game-day. There's places where that wouldn't/couldn't happen or there'd be hell on, away fans "pick their bars" I'd be surprised if it was the "only" place where you could have a pint in a mixed setting. I'll ask my lad what his experience was, he's been to Hearts OF games in the last couple of years. In my experience, Hearts hate the OF (ugly sisters/two cheeks of the same arse) because they believe they are the next biggest thing BUT are prevented from doing much because of the OF duopoly, there's way more angst about that than there is about religious divide. That said, I worked in Edinburgh for three years (some time ago) and was quite suprised by the level of "general" bigotry that existed which had nowt to do with football.

Oh grow up, the "wee huns" is a legacy of the fact that they were a protestant club (and is used to wind up Hearts fans because they disavow the label), sectarianism is no more a problem at Hearts than racism is at just about any club down here, you can't tar a whole support with the actions of a minority. Shit man, you even puled up a thread from Kickback (the biggest HMFC board) to try and prove they were sectarian, what in reality was the tone of that thread if not general condemnation. Why do football fans have disparaging names for other teams, not because it's factually correct but because it will cause offence. As for the Neil Lennon incident, it happened to Neil Lennon because lets face it he's Neil Lennon, and tbh that's more than enough reason to ploat the bastard (even Shearer thought so).

On the criminal thing. HMRC stated by putting them into liquidation rather than accept their 3p in the £, that it enabled a full investigation into the conduct of the club and the recovery of losses from the responsible "officers of the club". Polis are already involved over the Craig Whyte takeover, a Judge has asked for a report on the administration in terms of conflict of interest and BDO who are HMRC's liquidators specialise in "dodgy"liquidations. HMRC are REALLY after the criminals (if criminal activity is proven). Some folks are in for heavy falls I reckon.

Bloody shame, a nearly spot on post from Stevie apart from the bold bit foo-pah Hearts fans fucking HATE Rangers (and Celtic with equal venom).

Punishment ??? Stranraer Statement: We hold the stance that it is our place to act in the best long term interests of Stranraer FC and for Scottish Football as a whole and see no reason to breach the integrity of the SFL by filling a vacancy at any level other than at the lowest tier. The possibility of placing a NewCo at any other level breaches the sporting competition of our organisation and compromises the very structure of our game. There should not be a special case made for any club and we believe that the proper place for a phoenix club to restart life is at the lowest level. We believe it is right and proper than any club should have the right to apply for the resulting vacancy and we would then form a view on which club we would support for election to any vacancy based on the presentation case made by the applicants. Irrespective of the size, stature, history and resources of the club filling the vacancy, the opportunity exists for that club to find their way back to their natural tier in the league structure in a fair and equitable manner while being encouraged to trade and exist successfully within the means at their disposal.

They also were "at the wall" for less than 24 hours, and a lump (if not all) their debt was repaid.

That's just not true (outside of Celtic), IF they had simply transferred their membership/share in the SPL/SFA they Newco should absolutely have the sins of the past also visit them. They share/membership has not passed, penalties will only be placed against the old Rangers (the dead one) as in likely stripping of title's. The Newco will be a new club and should start where new clubs start, the New club (and their fans) wanted to remain the old club but leave the baggage behind, surely that's not right. All the majority of fans up north want, is Rangers treat exactly like their clubs would be treat. How many fans did Old Rangers gain whilst they cheated their way to glory, and conversely, how many fans did other clubs lose in the same period because they couldn't compete with a financially drugged up goliath.

Who is punitively punishing Rangers ??? They are being treat different (for their benefit) to ANY other Scottish club that has been in Admin/Liquidation. THAT is what the fans of other clubs are up in arms about (on top of the lack of any remorse or apparent forthcomming punishment for said cheating).

So English Football can't survive without Man Utd, that's what you are saying isn't it ???

How are Scottish football "shafting" Rangers (rip) really ?? I'd seriously like to know why anyone holds that opinion. Rangers (rip) have not even had any sanction applied to them yet for "wrong-doing" all they've had is consequence of their own missmanagement/actions. Went into Admin = 10 point penalty, Will be liquidated and UEFA wont give a licence to any "new" club (anywhere) until they have played for 3 years, it's not a ban per se it's a rule. Why should they be treated differently to any other club. If Man U went "pop" would you be happy if the Prem League and FA levered them back in at, or near, the top of the Pyramid. Edit: for balance - Livingston went into liquidation for a period of less than 24 hours, were saved came out of liquidation and were still punted to the 3rd Division. Rangers ain't comming out of liquidation, ever, unless someone pumps in £120 Million quid just to clear the debts.

Lies

No, the Chief Executive of the SFA said that, the Telegraph just reported it. His position must now be untenable. Excellent Summary of the "powers" here: http://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com/2012/07/02/never-a-penalty-19-2/comment-page-47/#comment-125911