Craig

That looks the fucking mutts nuts!

Greenalls were bought out by S&N years ago but the brand name still exists (I think!) - who owns Scottish and Newcastle now, is it Budweiser? NTL now part of Virgin Northern Rock now part of HM Taxpayers So who will be the next company we fuck up?

Parky's mouse button evidently stuck.

Did you spot this one a little further down the page Tom: Looks a happy soul doesn't he? Reckon he's not had any luck persuading the ex and the kids to relocate to Peru?

Fucking hell man Tom its a dusting of snow not a nuclear holocaust!

Some Chelsea fan at work heard a rumour they're going with this for next season: Obviously complete bollocks as they only changed their home shirt last summer and it wouldn't be in keeping with adidas' charter but I quite like the template

You're getting him mixed up with Van Der Sar shirley? Who is indeed VERY ordinary.

got a bit cross like didn't he?

Age means nowt to me to be honest - posters young and old are welcome. However if you are 40, you're old enough to remember when AIDS hit the headlines in the mid 80s and all the more reason for understanding why it's crossing the line.

They saw 4 goalkeepers at the club, two of which were pushing into their 30s and one of which could make them more money than the other. They way the see it i'm certain is that we have 1 experienced keeper who everyone raves as being the best 'understudy' goalkeeper in the premiership, two young kids who have shown great potential and £6m in the bank. BTW - statto time, apparently Steve Harper by a country mile holds the record for sitting on the bench the most times in Premiership history. Surely waiting till the summer transfer window would have been the sensible option all round. With this club? You're kidding me right?? Nope - they've cashed in now and I bet it's got something to with the summer and winter transfer windows showing profit. I suspect given the shit going on in the financial world, Ashley has a lot of creditors to please and he certainly bit off more than he could chew when he bought us (his own doing admittedly). I would have said Owen would go in the summer, but he'll be away on a Bosman anyway. Someone else will leave for big bucks - I'm convinced of it. Beye or Bassong probably.

Reina is shit. Organised defense, and posession controlling midfield in fornt of him, before you start quoting clean sheets. Ordinary as in terms of controlling his box. You're kidding me right? Cech aside, there isn't a better keeper in the Premiership to deal with crosses (and I include Van Der Sar in that too). Awesome shot stopper, never stops conversing with his players and a brave old sod to boot - his double-save in the first half of extra time last was superb. Reina, Cech and Given are head and shoulders above the rest IMO. Your love for anything scouse is getting worrying Craig... The connection made between me praising anything to do with Liverpool and my missus being a fan of theirs became tiresome a long time ago. Doesn't matter who he plays for, he's a fucking class keeper. I can't stand Chelsea but I'd rate Cech as a better keeper than both Reina and Given with Shay ahead of Pepe.

Fop probably got turned down for the dole man for being far too contrary... DSS: I've got just the job for you Fop: No you haven't etc.

Blocks?? He'd need fucking stilts!

Wise was driving him at the time tbh. Aye right..... cos he can touch the pedals and look over the steering wheel at the same time

They saw 4 goalkeepers at the club, two of which were pushing into their 30s and one of which could make them more money than the other. They way the see it i'm certain is that we have 1 experienced keeper who everyone raves as being the best 'understudy' goalkeeper in the premiership, two young kids who have shown great potential and £6m in the bank. BTW - statto time, apparently Steve Harper by a country mile holds the record for sitting on the bench the most times in Premiership history.

Reina is shit. Organised defense, and posession controlling midfield in fornt of him, before you start quoting clean sheets. Ordinary as in terms of controlling his box. You're kidding me right? Cech aside, there isn't a better keeper in the Premiership to deal with crosses (and I include Van Der Sar in that too). Awesome shot stopper, never stops conversing with his players and a brave old sod to boot - his double-save in the first half of extra time last was superb. Reina, Cech and Given are head and shoulders above the rest IMO.

Did you see the choice quote lifted from the 606 forum that the BBC decided to highlight on their site? Fantastic example of the garbage that gets posted on there - never mind censoring out half of what people say for fear it'll cause recriminations, they should be censoring out complete bollocks like that!

36 in a 30 zone is speeding ticket material and if that takes you to 12 points then a ban it is. Nowt wrong with it - the way his head was at the time, he should have had someone driving him tbh.

I'm predicting the south east will officially implode tomorrow... Lucky old me works in the area to the north west of London so no doubt I'll have fun driving around those idiots who still insist on driving as though it's perfect conditions. Had a butchers at the snowfall map on the BBC as well - bet all the teachers are already resetting their alarms for a lie in!

Lets not split hairs but Van Der Sar cost Fulham £5m not 8 and at the time Man U signed Barthez, he was first choice keeper for the reigning World and newly crowned European champions so it isn't surprising they paid £7.8m for his service. Cech and Reina weren't sold close to contract run-out and both were purchased in a far better economy than we're in at present. Both are on a level par with Given IMO. I reiterate the point, Given was worth more to the fans in terms of what he did on the pitch than he was to the club in terms of financial value. Parky is right in saying that his true value was probably between £8-£10m but certainly not as high as £12-15m. I don't know for certain (but then neither do you) but to me, the motive behind his comment about being 'grateful' was more about him trying to find a crumb of comfort for the fans he evidently respects rather than a gloat and telling us to stop whinging. I suspect that he's held a lot back about what really happened as well.

Bit out of date seeing as 2 of them have left "One down, four to go!" underneath Shame KINNEAR doesn't fit in where JIMENEZ was....

If they can pay £15m for a nearly 30 year old Craig Bellamy, I don't see why the figures suggested for Given's value are cloud cuckoo land, after all Keepers mature far later than strikers for example, you could argue that Given at 32 is coming into his prime, just look at the other top keepers in the Premier League, Freidel, James, Van Der Sar all pushing 40 ffs. Cleary Given got in a strop then the club weren't doing business, just like when he snapped his crayons in 2000 when Sir Bobby had the audacity to play an in form Harper ahead of him, then then slaps in a transfer request which is a statement of intent to leave the club ASAP regardless of whether the club are willing to sell, as it has been stated before, if Given had any regard to the fans he'd have fought relegation with us and left in the summer. Right, this one needs breaking down. Comparing the cost of a striker with that of a goalkeeper is sadly, by large a non-starter. Yes Buffon cost £32.6m but that was back in 2001 when the worldwide economy was thriving and Juve paid through the odds for players. You're right about the other top keepers in the league but how much did they move on for to their current clubs? Friedel - £2m James - 1.2m Van Der Saar - FREE On top of that we have the other first choice keepers in the league: Almunia - FREE Robinson - £3.5m Jaaskelainen - £100k Cech - £7m Howard - £3m Schwarzer - FREE Myhill - £50k Reina - £6m Turnbull - FREE Simonsen - FREE Gordon - £9m Gomez - £7.8m Kiely - FREE Green - £2m Kirkland - FREE IMO you can discount Gordon and Gomez as both Spurs and the Mackems paid way over the top for them - Spurs are now using Cudicini who cost them nowt. Taking them out of it, Given is comparable in cost to Cech & Reina and IMO comparable in terms of ability. In terms of his true value, I'd probably have put him at £8m - anything higher and I think we'd have been taking the piss. I don't see what relevance bringing up a transfer request from nine years ago has - we'd all conveniently forgotten about it when it suited us (i.e. when he was saving our skin time and time again). I don't agree with the comment about having regard for the fans - I don't think he felt valued and as the opportunity to move to a club who were more organised and showing far more ambition presented itself, he rightly snapped their hands off. The club could have insisted he stayed to keep us out of the shit, but they didn't. Like I've intimated before, Ashley was keen to balance up his books (they'll come in handy when he has to disclose the next set of figures ) FWIW I don't offer Given a pat on the back and hope he wins 'all he deserves' at Citeh - I hope it all blows up spectacularly. He is no longer our player, he's made that choice. But I don't think he's a cock for leaving. I think we need to look closer to SJP for the dickheads I'm afraid (or should that be Lahndan??)

He could have stayed too...he wanted to go. Look, I'm not arguing that he wasn't fed up, I'm just saying that if he hadn't have wanted to leave, he would have stayed. All I ask is that he doesn't make out that there was nothing he could do about it. Depends if he felt valued at the club - he evidently didn't. In his position (and me as a Newcastle fan myself) I'd most probably have done the same thing.

He can still decide not to go. Jesus christ, you really like hanging by the threads don't you? Keegan could have decided not to go in September but he did!

well said that man...