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My point is he completely miskicked it and got lucky.

Open goal and he still nearly missed.

We needed one in the summer the fucking idiots, they even admitted we did by bidding for Ridgewell, the reality is we need to sell Williamson and Perch and get two more in.

The first goal he ducks, he's already small enough, not even a challenge, the second and third goals defence all over the place again, and I agree Taylor was ridiculously exposed, three times Sturridge just went through like Taylor wasn't there, which he wasn't some of the time. Woeful situation to be in this though Simpson and fuckin Perch centre halfs for NUFC. All Ashley's doing.

He had little or nowt to do till they scored and the defence looked like Jordan's minge. He gives no one any confidence around him, he's too small, too light, and there's 4 goals going past Krul if he plays centre half against Norwich and Swansea. Predicted all this in September.

If Darren Fletcher and Carrick can dee it am sure as hell Tiote can and if it means Perch not playing I'm all for it.

“This is football, we have had the same defence all season, but Perch is a good defender." Who's he fuckin kiddin?? Howay Cabaye I know the frogs are diplomatic but there's at least 10 better players on this board than Perch.

Tiote would dee a job at centre back imo. I predicted all of this on Steve Wraith's show 0:59 onwards here http://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/toon-talk-with-steve-wraith/id330790262 26/9/11 that this would all happen, and it was squarely down to Ashley being a prick. I even made the point at some point we'd have to rely on Perch and this isn't acceptable. It's a disaster and what makes it worse is, we'd have picked up points on Saturday had it not been Drogba v Perch. More than ever this fat bastard has pissed me off, does he not fuckin understand football? Any decent centre half would have done as back up, Perch is League One standard, and this has been like a car crash waiting to happen for ages.

I'd hardly say being a regular in a side fourth top of the Barclays Premier League is someone who's a failure. He was quite good against Man Utd.

I can get 3/1 in the bookies give me that. Barney not biting at what? Look at the facts pal. Ireland will remind me of when Latvia were in it in 2004. Ewerk you'd rather have us than Italy, you beat Italy a few months ago, and are unbeaten in 5 is it against them? You've beaten us once in your life time. Aye, like shite. They deal with numerous mugs man, I've got limited exposure. England won't make the final. Show us your betting slip or pipe down. I fuckin will. You're the cunt on about bets.

This thread proves this forum needs some fresh blood. I could've predicted 80% of these posts and how it would end.

I can get 3/1 in the bookies give me that. Barney not biting at what? Look at the facts pal. Ireland will remind me of when Latvia were in it in 2004. Ewerk you'd rather have us than Italy, you beat Italy a few months ago, and are unbeaten in 5 is it against them? You've beaten us once in your life time.

Best odds 1 Spain 5/2 3 Germany 7/2 2 Holland 8/1 5 England 10/1 9 Italy 16/1 15 France 16/1 12 Russia 22/1 6 Portugal 25/1 55 Ukraine 40/1 8 Croatia 50/1 14 Greece 66/1 33 Czech 66/1 66 Poland 66/1 18 Sweden 80/1 11 Denmark 100/1 21 Ireland 125/1

Utterly clueless. How the fuck is Group C harder than Group D. Guaranteed three points against Ireland, we scored 9 in our last two games against Croatia both games in the last 2 and a half a year, and obviously Spain would turn us over. With this group we've got the genunine possibility of not winning against both of Ukraine and France! I don't think we're contenders, the only contenders are Spain and that's it.

It's just being cheeky to say Italy and Portugal are better than England. FIFA say they're not, Portugal are largely a one man team, and Italy well I think Pacinofan's sig needs replacing.

He looked shite against Arsenal twice, he's got a decent reputation though.

Also I'll give the SBR foundation £20 for every goal Ireland score in the tournament. I'd be amazed if I'm handing over £40 or more.

An absolutely freak game in which we were chasing a game we shouldn't have had to chase because of refereeing incompetence, and got caught 5 on 3 at the back not once but twice, such was our desire to find an equaliser. It was no Munich 2001, and in the history of England v Germany that game in South Africa was a total freak occurrence. You have absolutely no understanding of the game if you think we're incapable of beating Holland or Germany. In my view in years to come France will be the second best team in Europe and quite clearly. Anyway we've got a hard group probably the second worst after group B, the fact that we Ukraine last and the likelyhood is we'll both need something to qualify makes it absolutely imperative we don't lost to France and we beat Sweden. Basically we need to win the Group because we'd have Spain in the QF if we don't. England are favourites to win our group, and clear fourth favourites to win the whole thing, and I think that's a fair reflection of where we are, and also mirror the FIFA rankings.

Bollocks Spain will hump either of those, they are just part of the population as we are. I'd welcome a match with Holland absolutely no reason to fear them. Spain are the only side I fear. If we avoid them we can go far. Like I said though if Ireland score a goal, it's a good tournament for you.

Why not? We are ranked 5th in the world for a reason regardless how shite we are. I pray we get Ireland and embarrass them too. Everyone over here is praying for England too. The 'why not?' is the massive gulf in class. Between who? It doesn't matter who Ireland get granted, it'll be three defeats, but a good time will be had by all to be sure.

Why not? We are ranked 5th in the world for a reason regardless how shite we are. I pray we get Ireland and embarrass them too.

Think this is the tournament Spain will get sussed. Lot of the international managers have been watching their vids cooking up plans to knack them I reckons...A big healthy and energetic side like Germany will get amongst them this time. France are the dark horses and will have a lot of making up to do... Germany are overrated by two astonishingly bizarre games against England and Argentina. If they played that sequence of games twice in a row again they'd get results as good as that one in 10000. They've got some decent young players, but they're light years behind Spain in my view, same with Holland, there's never been such a gulf between best and second best, I think FIFA have it right with their rankings though, and we're probably joint 4th in Europe with France. Outside of that you have Portugal, then the rest just genuinely aren't even worth mentioning, although Ukraine could get quite far with home support and a few quality players.

Since when is Jonas oot

Think Spain will piss it, I think they'll beat us in the final. Regardless if it is us they play I'd be amazed if Spain don't piss it, considering a big bet. From each pot I'd say in order of favourability of playing them Pot One - Poland, Holland, Ukraine, Spain - Pot Three - Greece, Sweden, Croatia, Portugal - Port Four - Ireland (by a mile), Czech, Denmark, France.

I have a lot of time for you Stevie but for all I have my faults you don't half have some of your own. One which we both share is desire to get the last word