McFaul

Rubbish. We've gone from being in the Championship to '7th best team in the PL' in less than two years. With a good manager and a few decent signings there's no reason why several other clubs can't do the same. Utter bollocks, you really haven't got a clue have you? About anything, big mouth on a website but I know for a fact what you'd be like in person. We were relegated with the best squad which has been relegated in living memory, yes better than West Ham in 2003 as a squad. The squad that got relegated on paper at least should've come 8th or 9th at worst, the reasons behind the relegation are obvious. We lost 8 players on relegation and were comfortably the best side in the Championship for years, we lost 4 games in 46 without even breaking sweat. We came back up with Premiership players, and the only two key players we added really were Ben Arfa and Tiote, Ben Arfa played three games, so really only Tiote was added. Despite that we were 30 seconds away from coming 9th which would've been totally deserved as we were easily the 9th best team in the division last season, so don't go on about the Championship you utter idiot. Look at the other teams in the division how they play, their personnel. We are by a distance the best of the rest, to dispute that, is you being a wank which is a daily occurance for you. The only teams who could get close to us, are Aston Villa, they'd need at least five players, Everton need to replace at least 5 or 6 due to ineptitude and age, and the rest oh dear, you'd be looking at them revamping their entire squads. QPR are the only ones with the financial muscle to do that.

We are comfortably the seventh best side in the country. The only team who could threaten that over the next few years are probably QPR.

No British citizen has a worse voice or accent than Carragher. They seem to revel in talking like cunts, and making their accent sound as vile as possible. All it does is make people look down their nose at them even more, and they can't see this. If I was Prime Minister I'd be straight on the phone to Bertie Ahern "do yous want Merseyside and we'll wipe out any debt you have to us", that would be my offer. That's a 6ft plus bloke who's family are sposed to be big on the gangster scene if you believe my Liverpool supporting mate. Yet he sounds like a five year old girl. Remember when he got on the phone to Adrian Durham on Talksport live, and asked him to come to Melwood Training Ground for a fight pmsl hahahaha. "Come daahn ta Melwood and see what 'appens la, see if you've gock any bockghhhhle". They're such classy people, they actually remind me of gypsies, but rather than one camp or site, it's an entire connurbation. To be fair who would we have to laugh at though?

Nee wonder Liverpool is your Utopia then.

No British citizen has a worse voice or accent than Carragher. They seem to revel in talking like cunts, and making their accent sound as vile as possible. All it does is make people look down their nose at them even more, and they can't see this. If I was Prime Minister I'd be straight on the phone to Bertie Ahern "do yous want Merseyside and we'll wipe out any debt you have to us", that would be my offer.

Yeed shag a barbers floor yee, ye filthy wrongun. and pacinofan? I've never met a group of people with more blind fanaticism for their area. The emphasis on the blind. Everything about Liverpool is great, and everything that is great is Liverpool. I've no doubt there'll be a couple of exceptions, but I've been there enough and spent more than enough time with scousers to know I'm not being unreasonable when I say they're generally so far up themselves and their city it's repulsive and they've the biggest chip on their shoulder I've ever seen. I didn't think it was possible to have a victim complex at the same time as a superiority complex, but there they go, swaggering with an undeserved arrogance down the job centre. what's the difference between a scouser and Batman? Batman can go out without Robin Not everything about Liverpool is great, but most of it is, yes. Your victim complex jibe is ridiculous and shows how little you know. Most Scousers are willing to stand up and fight against anything they see as wrong, if you see that as victim complex then poor you. There is a certain amount of arrogance in Scousers but I love it, and yes in many cases we do think we're superior, so what? Your other comments are banal stereotypical nonsense. :lol: The whole country laughs at you, you're like Chechnya compared to Moscow and St Petersburg, is it any wonder you're the most ridiclued looked down upon people on these islands with comments like that???

I love J69's football knowledge.

Yeed shag a barbers floor yee, ye filthy wrongun. and pacinofan? I've never met a group of people with more blind fanaticism for their area. The emphasis on the blind. Everything about Liverpool is great, and everything that is great is Liverpool. I've no doubt there'll be a couple of exceptions, but I've been there enough and spent more than enough time with scousers to know I'm not being unreasonable when I say they're generally so far up themselves and their city it's repulsive and they've the biggest chip on their shoulder I've ever seen. I didn't think it was possible to have a victim complex at the same time as a superiority complex, but there they go, swaggering with an undeserved arrogance down the job centre. what's the difference between a scouser and Batman? Batman can go out without Robin It's not their fault though really, it's because they are so insular and don't know any different. To anyone outside that area, when you go there for football or whatever, you generally think what an awful shithole, but look at it like this. If you were born in Tirana in 1950 you'd think Tirana is the best city in the world because you're told it is by the people around you, and you don't actually have experience of anything better.

You'll be watching every minute though, just to get your needed Scouse fix. I only watch reality TV shows in passing, but I've yet to see real stunners from anywhere, including your town. They look for the odd, the freak, the extreme, when casting these ridiculous shows and there isn't one town, city or village in this country where they can't find those, plus the ugly looking and ugly minds. Sounds like you could be a contender, tbh. I really won't. Your lack of self awareness is hilarious. Bet this movember crack is being well practised around your way eh? It will take you back down memory lane to the 70s 80s and 90s no doubt. Maybe even the 00s.

Thought you weren't going to spend your Tuesday arguing about it, make your mind up eh?

I'm not arguing with you, you arsehole, I'm telling you. The impact of the toon explosion quite clearly was far greater than the Buncefield one. The fact it was in the city and the best part of 1,000 people were injured and half the city blown to pieces tell you everything you need to know.

Were there any casualties at Buncefield?

I don't seem to remember bits of rocks landing miles away at Buncefield. Was just a minor gas explosion in the grand scheme of things. Well googled re Flixborough, far less damage was done there though, and there were far fewer casualties.

Yeed shag a barbers floor yee, ye filthy wrongun.

The Great Fire of London left a 40 feet deep crater did it? Clearly the toon explosion, was the biggest peace-time explosion these islands have ever known. Imagine the force of the blast for 20st bits of rock to land a mile and a half away, and for the blast to be heard in Hartlepool, Hexham, and the flames nearly seen in Leeds, it sounds like a fuckin nuke. Clearly it wasn't. Another Stevie 'fact'. Well you tell me a bigger one ray of sunshine.

The Tottenham model is a good one like. They are not a bigger club than we are, they're marginally richer but that's a recent thing and to be honest, when you look at how finished Chelsea are, I don't think it's entirely wrong to say they on paper are the third best side in the country. They're much better than Liverpool, as I said Chelsea look old and need at least 5 new players imo, Arsenal don't have their depth, seriously as much as their support is wank, and they're a bunch of mugs if you look at their players you'd say they could come third this season. For me take Corluka, he's an absolutely top class right back in my view and he can't even get in, Defoe rarely starts, Pavlyuchenko never starts, Bassong, Gallas, Huddlestone is a very gifted player, Krankcjar and nen of these even start games. I think they have the third best side personally, I can see this seasons pecking order (and next season) being 1 Man Utd 2 Man City 3 Tottenham 4 Arsenal 5 Chelsea 6 Liverpool 7 Newcastle 8 Everton 9 Fulham 10 WBA.

The lasses bar two of them are fuckin vile. Two of them look alright, but once they open their mouths it'll be plane flying in to train at level crossing crashing in to car crash telly. THAT is no exaggeration.

How? Read the full thing.

The Great Fire of London left a 40 feet deep crater did it? Clearly the toon explosion, was the biggest peace-time explosion these islands have ever known. Imagine the force of the blast for 20st bits of rock to land a mile and a half away, and for the blast to be heard in Hartlepool, Hexham, and the flames nearly seen in Leeds, it sounds like a fuckin nuke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_fire_of_Newcastle_and_Gateshead Probably the most spectacular thing that's happened in peace time ever in the UK, and it happened in Newcastle, yet I didn't know about it. fuck me.

Doubt it. Yoyo club West Ham. Us being in the Championship was when like George Best signed a 6 game contract with Dunstable, West Ham are a lower Prem, higher Champ type of club.

I tell you what it is, I've seen sides beaten 6-0 8-2 6-1 this season, but THAT was probably the most cowardly display I've seen off a Premiership team in 2 or 3 years. In some ways it was reminiscent of our relegation season. They just had no desire to do ANYTHING positive, nervous in possession, their most gifted attacking player has been their worst this season, marooned on the bench. I tell you what it is, when you get the calculator out, it could be a glorious sum which comes out. Normally I wouldn't care less but May 2009 will never be forgotten and the difference between us and them is, no one would miss them, everyone missed us, the whole Premiership was significantly more boring for our absence. Villa they'd average about 19 or 20,000 and could well stay there for years with their similarly boring voiced blue neighbours. I can dream.

They've never been as boring as Everton or Aston Villa. I can't think of one interesting thing about either of those clubs or their supports.

So this must apply to every successful club? Name me one that has splashed cash and not had a good time because of it? Newcastle had it, to an extent, in the Keegan era. With the money that you have spent/are spending, success is an inevitability. It's not having a go, it's buying success. Our money was made the proper way too, by the fans, not through external investment. SJH and FFS got a lot more out of NUFC than they put in.

City fan just trying to point out a couple of things wrong with your post. Since moving to COMS here are the attendances each season up until August 2008 vs Newcastle. 03/04 - May 1st 04 - 47,266 04/05 - Feb 2nd 05 - 45,752 05/06 - Feb 1st 06 - 42,413 06/07 - Nov 11th 06 - 40,571 07/08 - Sep 29th 07 - 40,606 Thats an average of 43,321, and as that first fixture shows, there was and still are plenty of City fans for our stadium to be full. If you take into account the move from Keegan to Pearce, then there is a big decline, but who can fault some of the fans after only seeing one goal in a full season at home under Pearce. Obviously when things pick up on the pitch the attendances increase. Newcastle fans should know that better than most, as your support hasnt been as loyal as you make out, just pointing this out and in no way a dig. Also, you have added the wrong words to that song. Its a piss take out of a United song and the derby demolition we did on them. The song goes, 'It should've been 10, It should've been 10, You cockney bastards, It should've been 10.' And just to clear the Poznan piece up, it is our way of thanking Lech for being the first set of fans to really make an atmosphere at our stadium, in a game we were involved in. Both sets of fans respect each other and this is our way of showing that. Talking about respecting other sets of fans, maybe that is something some Newcastle fans could look into. Im not sure if any are aware of the firework/thunderflash that was thrown into the home support on Saturday, but it is a disgraceful action from a football fan which has led to a City fan almost having his hand blown off as he went to remove it from infront of 2 children. That is what was seen on tv when City fans were trying to get to Newcastle fans. Alot of coin throwing then resulted from both sets of fans, then the Newcastle fans started to tear up seats and throw them at City fans too. You can read more here if you like. http://forums.bluemo...hp?f=1&t=239904 So if you want to talk about "know nothing" fans i'll be quite happy to discuss the Geordie's actions as well as City's. Our support is THE most loyal in world football. You can go on about 1991 as much as you like, but if you understood NUFC, there was an official boycott to oust Gordon McKeag and get SJH, there's nothing else you can really have a dig at us for like ever. Not as loyal as we make out? You cheeky cunt. We got relegated with a world record average gate for a relegated team 48,750. We've got the worst chairman in the league, and we averaged 44,000 in the Championship, paying Premiership ticket prices, with no new signings. No club in the world would do that. When Pearce was there a lot of your league gates were as low as 34,000, I agree with the comment you have will continue to have a lot of gloryhunters. I tell you what summed it up for me, other than that FA Cup tie in 2002, you never had over 2,000 away fans here since the 5-0 in 1984, last season you had 2,800 sums it all up for me. You're by no means the worst supporters, but there are a lot of myths about Manchester City's support. 35,776 was the lowest attendance at the COMS since we moved there and that was under Pearce's guidance in 06/07 against Fulham who brought a couple of hundered fans that day, as they usually do. I do realise what happened in 91, and fair play to you guys for it, we had the same problem with Swales. I was meaning before 91, when you guys were stuck in the lower reaches of football. We were there for a short stint and averaged 32,000, the lowest i can ever remember a crowd being at Maine Road. Im not here to measure dicks with anyone, only here to mereley point out that saying City have bandwagon jumpers is like calling Geordies, Mackems. Of course we have a new breed of City fan, it always happens when a club wins a trophy, or spends a shit load of cash. Shirt sales surely increased when KK was in charge of Newcastle, just like they did at Blackburn, just like they did at United, just like they did at Chelsea, and now City too. Its inevitable. But go to when City changed ground, and when there was a waiting list for tickets. City's lowest attendance that year was 44,307 vs Charlton, the rest are 46-47k. The fanbase has always been there, its not like we were any good back then The lowest crowd you can remember at Maine Road was 32,000? Did you start going about 99 like? Even then you averaged 28,000 good for division three, but it was football's heyday really, Oasis were cool, I think Man City were cool, and it was cool to say how loyal they were, with their £15 tickets when 8 years earlier you were getting 20,000 in the top flight. That said on the face of it you do well to get decent support with Man Utd on your doorstep, but if Manchester really is blue, then you probably should. I don't mind your comments about most of the stuff here, but to say your support isn't as loyal as you think it is, is presumptious as to how loyal an individual thinks our support is, secondly it's patronising, and thirdly I don't know how a club who have won nothing at home since 1955, and have little or no hope of winning anything, yet remain the third best supported club in the country, have fans who could be described as anything other than ultra-loyal. Do you know how many clubs have won a domestic trophy since we last did? It's about 58 of 92 clubs, some are in the fucking Conference like Luton and Oxford. Just checked and it was 28,000 average in a 34,000 cap. That was 90/91 season. The season you are saying about the protesting at Newcastle, which i agree with. But before that to 1978, the year i was born Newcastle did not average over 30,000 in any of those season's. Its all swings and roundabout's, ups and down's, every club has its fair weather supporters. Just think some of the flak we City fans are taking over attendances is a bit rich. We can all go back over the decades and take the ups and downs, its always going to happen. Just dont think its right to class 46,000 City fans as gloryhunters when the facts quite clearly show we had that fanbase 5-6 seasons ago when we won nowt. Hardly anyone did, and they were probably the worst years in our history. Yet in 1984 we were the third best supported team in Britain not just England while we were in Division Two. Gates were so low Everton came 7th in one of the seasons, won the FA Cup and averaged 18,000. If you were 33, you would understand the reasons for this, and you would remember what Thatcher's Northern England was like, coupled with the fact football hooliganism was at an all time high, yet Newcastle remained 5th 6th 7th best supported club despite selling our best players every year like Gazza, Peter and Waddle. Indeed in many of the seasons in the 80's we were getting more than Man City, and lets not forget this was a time late 70's early 80's when Man City had chances to win the league. I think you were getting the 46,000 when you moved to COM's because of the novelty factor, all clubs have it when they move to a new stadium, the mackems were averaging 47,000 when they moved, 10,000 down on that now, and even Boro, yes Boro! sold out when they moved to the Riverside. No reason why you guys cant sell out your new "Arena" then Too soon? Nar it has about as much impact to us as singing who the fuck are Man Utd to them does. Will always be SJP. Hope BBC join Jeff Stellings pledge to call it SJP at all times.