McFaul

exactly Hhhmm agreeing with Leazes Don't worry about it, your argument/analogy was seriously flawed and utter bollocks, that's why he agreed, probably. Maybe the Greek PM should try a similar argument with the Eurozone And why don't you fuck off you smug unintelligent prick. Spot on and so was your analogy. The bloke is a mug, and inside his heart he knows he is.

Thats absolute rubbish statement and you know it is but as usual you attempt to back up your argument by not giving anything valid back and coming up some spurious statement. The amounts involved are irrelevant. A million pound to Ashley is probably the equivalent of a £100 to me so everything is relevant. At the end of the day the argument is that buying something "to have fun" (and its clearly not a tenuous statement Chez as it was in numerous interviews with Mort) should mean that you either pay up for that "fun". See this is the thing for me, he genuinely did buy it to have fun (and ps to flog on at a capital profit at a later date) but largely to play the big spending game and have a hobby in the meantime. Only he found out he wasn't having fun, it wasn't a laugh and he'd paid too much, it owed a lot of money and nobody wanted to buy it off him. That's the reality of it for me. For that reason I have no sympathy for him and he can do one bleating about having to subsidise it, but at the same time you also have to say if nobody does want to subsidise it (meaning a buyer) and clearly nobody else does, then the 'making it pay for itself' standpoint is not massively unreasonable. This is where a lot of what is said is just cobblers: "He bought it principally as a vehicle for Sports Direct" - total cobblers, he's tried to sell it at least once because it was tanking and he didnt start 'logo-ing' us up for years. That has now seemingly become a long term thing because theres no buyer wanting us. To be honest while it's totally obvious the areas where he fucks up and fucks us off and we're well within our rights to bawl him out for this, we're delusional if we just keep saying he 'doesn't realise the potential of Newcastle United' because clearly no other billionaire buyer thinks that way either at the moment. Some leveraged chancer might, but they all disappeared when the banks went tits up-along with FCB's entire exit strategy. Perhaps that wasn't his initial aim, but when you look at how much of the French sportswear market he's planning on taking, is it any coincidence that we have more frenchman/or black african frenchman like Ba, starting for us than Englishmen? I think his plan has evolved over the last two years, to use NUFC as part of a marketing ploy for his business. I really don't care if he signs decent french players rather than English, as long as they're good and they all are. However, the evidence is there for all to see when you add it all up. If he was that keen on showcasing something as an advert to entice big business for the naming rights of the ground, why didn't he ask UNICEF or Cancer Research if they'd like to have naming rights on the ground till a multi million pound offer comes in from big business? I agree with every word of what you've just said to be clear. What I'm saying is all this cobblers about it being a Sports Direct branding plan from the word go is a load of shit. it's just yet another narrative that's evolved recently with people reverse engineering their recollections of his tenure to try to make it fit. As you say, his plan has evolved/changed I'd say at least once. That for me is the essence of Ashley-total whim. That's because we're not priority for him, (SD is) and it's the fact we're not priority for him is my main objection to the man. I'm not deluded enough to demand he spunks his personal billion pound fortune on competing with the very top sides on wages, but I do demand that he absolutely gives committments to the coaching and playing personnel he's put in place when they actually show a desire to play for this football club. Unfortunately for the reasons I've mentioned, I can't have any faith in that being in any way certain or even likely. Whether buying French players promotes branding in France or not I dunno, I would imagine it helps, but for me I reckon he just sees them as the best value for money and for that reason I'm happy for him to keep pursuing that policy via the scouts too. If they want the shirt more than an English player on four times their wages they can have it as far as I'm concerned. I agree with all of that. Regarding SDA, I'm just coming out with scenario's here, but say he had decided to call SJP the Unicef Arena, there'd be strong opposition to it for obvious reasons, however, many hundreds of thousands of Newcastle fans would see that, at least in some way our club are doing some good for a charity which basically promotes human life, and there can be no more noble thing than that, and perhaps it would be a lot easier for a big organisation to come in without the negative publicity SDA is attracting and will continue to attract.

Thats absolute rubbish statement and you know it is but as usual you attempt to back up your argument by not giving anything valid back and coming up some spurious statement. The amounts involved are irrelevant. A million pound to Ashley is probably the equivalent of a £100 to me so everything is relevant. At the end of the day the argument is that buying something "to have fun" (and its clearly not a tenuous statement Chez as it was in numerous interviews with Mort) should mean that you either pay up for that "fun". See this is the thing for me, he genuinely did buy it to have fun (and ps to flog on at a capital profit at a later date) but largely to play the big spending game and have a hobby in the meantime. Only he found out he wasn't having fun, it wasn't a laugh and he'd paid too much, it owed a lot of money and nobody wanted to buy it off him. That's the reality of it for me. For that reason I have no sympathy for him and he can do one bleating about having to subsidise it, but at the same time you also have to say if nobody does want to subsidise it (meaning a buyer) and clearly nobody else does, then the 'making it pay for itself' standpoint is not massively unreasonable. This is where a lot of what is said is just cobblers: "He bought it principally as a vehicle for Sports Direct" - total cobblers, he's tried to sell it at least once because it was tanking and he didnt start 'logo-ing' us up for years. That has now seemingly become a long term thing because theres no buyer wanting us. To be honest while it's totally obvious the areas where he fucks up and fucks us off and we're well within our rights to bawl him out for this, we're delusional if we just keep saying he 'doesn't realise the potential of Newcastle United' because clearly no other billionaire buyer thinks that way either at the moment. Some leveraged chancer might, but they all disappeared when the banks went tits up-along with FCB's entire exit strategy. Perhaps that wasn't his initial aim, but when you look at how much of the French sportswear market he's planning on taking, is it any coincidence that we have more frenchman/or black african frenchman like Ba, starting for us than Englishmen? I think his plan has evolved over the last two years, to use NUFC as part of a marketing ploy for his business. I really don't care if he signs decent french players rather than English, as long as they're good and they all are. However, the evidence is there for all to see when you add it all up. If he was that keen on showcasing something as an advert to entice big business for the naming rights of the ground, why didn't he ask UNICEF or Cancer Research if they'd like to have naming rights on the ground till a multi million pound offer comes in from big business?

He's not in the same league as Ben Arfa in terms of stature in football and ability imo and we got him. Not one to say I tolds you so but.....

I think I'll buy it. Off work in December for 4 weeks so will have some spare time to have a go. Are there nee skins or stadium pic add ons?

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Sometimes its the tone and the words they use too. I've discussed this before, Sima expanded on it too, he claimed all women who use the words pal or mate were likely to be fuckin ugly, fat as fuck or both. While that's harsh it sounds fuckin awful off a lass. Like take Raquel off Corrie, she sounded sweet and nice, but Leanne had the same accent and sounded like a mug, it's how feminine they sound that helps.

Aye, big one for me that a soft Scots accent. I've got this horrible feeling Stevie was meaning pure ned though if his manc charva comment was anything to go by. "a hink you'll huv a big boaby" that type of lass, she'd be wrong like. Ned Glasgow sounds lush I think, so does Edinburgh which is more refined.

For them going out with a geordie would be like going out with Mick Jagger in the 70s though.

I just think geordies are mint, I know it might be deluded, but we just are. Fucking so open, so friendly, warm, welcoming, endearing, and you can say that as a generalisation in my view. You only truly notice it when you spend a few weeks elsewhere. I can see how someone not from this area could say that's deluded and arrogant, but it's also true. I remember coming back from London last year, I travelled back in my suit straight after work which got a tiny dab of paint where the flaps of the suit is, you know where I mean, was from the fuckin office which being renovated nee wet paint sign = oh dear, but it wasn't that bad. Got back to the central straight off the train, and this old woman called me over, I thought who the fucks this, she says hinny stop a minute pulls out her hanky, licks it with her tongue and starts wiping where the paint was. The paint wasn't coming off, but she had a gan, and I just thought what other city in the country would you get an old lady deein that. There's only one.

Me too I'll never understand why, you can drink 7 pints in town and be alright. 7 pints in the club you're wrecked and talking shite about Yorkshire accents and don't care that you have to get up at 7am.

I am. I love Belfast accents on women so a do. I like them full stop great accents so they are. They could be saying the most insignificant thing ever but it always sounds interesting in a Belfast accent. "Jusht away for a wee shite sho I ahm". Great accent. I know what you mean about the Yorkshire accent on t'women. It's like to me people from Yorkshire are all taught, and brought up t'proper way, no t'queers, dinner on t'table when t'pub shuts at 3 t'thirteh ont Sunday, or they get shown what t'Barnslehhh discipline is all about. It's like an aggressive stiff upper lip culture where t'spade is t'spade, and even the women get enveloped in that.

Nah Scouse is better on a girl than Manc iyam. That band of Pennine towns between Bury where Scholes is from and T'Leeds is the worst for female accents though. Gets way too deep. Take that Chanel Hayes off BB-bonny as owt but a voice from hell. Hot female accents = Scouse, Geordie, (posh) Scots and South Welsh. Hot female accents IMO = RP, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Belfast and that's it. I think a nice Newcastle accent on a lass i.e not how I talk, its alreet, but a charva toon accent is as bad as anything on a lass, maybe that's my bad memories like. Accents on a lass which will crush a viagra enhanced 10 inch beamer = Any generic southern one, Scouse, Lancashire/Yorkshire oh dear (when you hear a lass from Bolton, t'Leeds, Blackburrrrrrrn, Sheffield) you just think oh dear, Mackem up there with the worst, Welsh, Brummie.

I think it sounds awful on a girl. The only north west accent I like is charva manc, everyone else sounds like a cunt. That's just how my ears see it, but I have to say a Wigan accent on a lass is as bad as it gets.

So the nazi's hated Hitler too? He wasn't born in Germany. Absolute bollocks anyway. Hitler respected Britain massively. He was shagging a lass from Bognor Regis even after the war started ffs, if you knew your history. The poppy has become a symbol of the far right??!?!?!?! Fucking hell this is your worst post ever, and that's saying something after your Tottenham crack yesterday. For obvious reasons you aren't really able to view this without an agenda. I have a good grasp on both world wars, a large part of my degree was in history and I have a personal interest in the area. I didn't say the poppy was a symbol for the far right either. Read it again. The Nazi's were racist. They believed Jews, Blacks, Gays, Disableds, Russians etc. were sub species and set about removing them from existence. Deaths- Jews 5.9 million Soviet POWs 2–3 million Ethnic Poles 1.8–2 million Romani 220,000–1,500,000 Disabled 200,000–250,000 Freemasons 80,000 Slovenes 20,000–25,000 Homosexuals 5,000–15,000 Jehovah's Witnesses 2,500–5,000 Twitter/Facebook were awash with mongs on memorial day taking a pop at pakis/ragheads/eastern europeans telling them to fuck off out of our country. Ignoring the fact that lots of minorities stood side by side with our troops during the war fighting the Nazi's for having the same narrow minded views that you spout every now and again Stevie Fuck off. The only thing you say really here apart from abuse of me unwarranted once again, is "Nazi's were racist." A large part of my degree was in history, and the only conclusion you draw was nazi's were racist. The stats and the list of various nationalities murdered by the nazi's because of their hatred are all correct, but you said the nazi's hated anyone that wasn't German, I said it was total bollocks which it is. The Germans respected the British their evil ways deduced we were as "pure" as they were, they obviously didn't hate the Italians and formed an axis with the Japanese. Were you aware of none of that. Whereas you completely missed the point of my post (That bigots have claimed remembrance day as as an excuse to shout off racist bullshit) and focused entirely on the semantics of one sentence. You know what I meant Stevie, as did everyone else. Jews, Gays, Blacks, Russians, Disabled people. All wrong uns apparently. As for respecting Brits, they had a funny way of showing it, what with all the bombings and millions of us killed. As for coalitions with other countries. It was quite obviously a means to an end. How long do you think that would have lasted once the Aryan race was in full swing? Not many blonde haired, blue eyed Japs around. The abuse of you is perfectly warranted with some of the shite you spout on here. All Mackems, Scousers, Jews, Asians, Russians etc. are indistinguishable from their own people apparently. What is this cunt on about now? Can someone explain? He'll say you know what I mean, when clearly no one does?

What bugs me is people in my view care more than they've been proven right someone else proven wrong, than how much they actually care about the team winning football matches. I can just imagine someone like Baggio after a 4-1 home win against Chelsea, "what did I say 4 years ago what did I say???!?!" "No-one cares what you said ya daft cunt".

How much SPL do you watch in Norway? He's on about Hoilett man.

Which is why nobody has even tried to debate the points in the opening post. The squad we have now is the best group of players we've had in years and is far superior to the one we had when he bought the club, the reason nobody was worried about any of the big clubs stealing our players back then is because they were not good enough. We had Nobby Solano attempting to fill in at right back for the always injured Carr, a selection of Babayaro, Edgar and Huntington fighting it out for the left back spot with Bramble, Taylor, Craig Moore and Gooch as our centre backs with Peter Ramage thrown somewhere in there for good measure. Who out of that current squad would walk into our first team? I've said Given and Milner at best and I think picking Given would be debatable. Is that improving the squad? Of course it is. You do realise that because he's banned from N-O we're forced to have this recurring diatribe on here, despite practically nobody on here participating in the argument at all. This is pure N-O this, it's nowt to do with Toontastic, so please keep it over there. We've got a good first team (not squad), we've got players that want to be here and we're competing now in 2012. We're happy about that without being delusional about the strengths and weaknesses. Fuck 2007 because its irrelevant. Exactly, fuck off back to the kids board where you belong Baggio.

There's about 4 different accents in London alone, probably more. About 1 in 10 people in London speak like HM The Queen.

The only thing about jews right. You can become a christian or a muslim when you were brought up in another faith, but jews are born jews and that's it, you can't say right foreskin off can I become a jew. That's my understanding of it.

He'd be no good in England, maybe somewhere like Bolton or Everton he could plod along, but not here, he certainly wouldn't improve the first team.

So the nazi's hated Hitler too? He wasn't born in Germany. Absolute bollocks anyway. Hitler respected Britain massively. He was shagging a lass from Bognor Regis even after the war started ffs, if you knew your history. The poppy has become a symbol of the far right??!?!?!?! Fucking hell this is your worst post ever, and that's saying something after your Tottenham crack yesterday. For obvious reasons you aren't really able to view this without an agenda. I have a good grasp on both world wars, a large part of my degree was in history and I have a personal interest in the area. I didn't say the poppy was a symbol for the far right either. Read it again. The Nazi's were racist. They believed Jews, Blacks, Gays, Disableds, Russians etc. were sub species and set about removing them from existence. Deaths- Jews 5.9 million Soviet POWs 2–3 million Ethnic Poles 1.8–2 million Romani 220,000–1,500,000 Disabled 200,000–250,000 Freemasons 80,000 Slovenes 20,000–25,000 Homosexuals 5,000–15,000 Jehovah's Witnesses 2,500–5,000 Twitter/Facebook were awash with mongs on memorial day taking a pop at pakis/ragheads/eastern europeans telling them to fuck off out of our country. Ignoring the fact that lots of minorities stood side by side with our troops during the war fighting the Nazi's for having the same narrow minded views that you spout every now and again Stevie Fuck off. The only thing you say really here apart from abuse of me unwarranted once again, is "Nazi's were racist." A large part of my degree was in history, and the only conclusion you draw was nazi's were racist. The stats and the list of various nationalities murdered by the nazi's because of their hatred are all correct, but you said the nazi's hated anyone that wasn't German, I said it was total bollocks which it is. The Germans respected the British their evil ways deduced we were as "pure" as they were, they obviously didn't hate the Italians and formed an axis with the Japanese. Were you aware of none of that.

That followed by Nalin and Kane - Beachball on a cowie, bliss.

It's true though, heterosexual males should not sound as high pitched as Scouse males do. It is a scientific fact. Dolphins think humans are trying to communicate with them when scousers say "erm". "ayyyyyyyyyyym".

What about Gangs of New York, The Godfather and all that shit though? Canny shows, but hardly the Battle of Waterloo, the D Day Landings or the Crusades. The battle of Newburn in 1640 supercedes any historic event the yanks have had even. They had their row English v English one side won, they dropped the atom bomb, they got chinned in Vietnam, and that basically is their history. As I said if countries history was a football team they'd be MK Dons, Egypt and Greece would be Man Utd and Real Madrid and we'd be AC Milan. That is how pathetic yank history is in comparison. Well it's short (in terms of 'western' history anyway) but I think it's dead interesting how you had this melting pot of all these different cultures and how they basically had to fight their own corner etc. It's not really comparable to the history we have but it's not like you have to pick and choose about what history is 'better'. Aye true enough. One thing you can say about global history though is that the world would be a much better place if we'd have put up a proper fight to keep the 13 states proper British.