McFaul

Well put across. How does that explain the fact that Asian population of England and France is probably the same if not more than the black populations, yet there are literally NO asian players at all, yet blacks make up maybe 25%. You are just pulling these stats out of your arse Am I fuck. Count the white/black ratio in Arsenal's squad.

Fair post. STILL it doesn't totally satisy my 4.7 billion and not one decent footballer point, but it goes a long way.

Utter pish. Japan lost today to wait for it.....drum roll................NORTH FUCKIN KOREA. That team in our group, Montenegro are better than Japan. Confident enough of Japan beating England to put money on it, people are getting way too carried away here as 'shite' as people like to think England are we're still a very strong international side. I've just noticed he'd put money on it If England lost a game to North Korea, the manager would be sacked on the spot, they're ranked 125th in the world, below Moldova, Faroes, Cyprus or Luxembourg. If we lost against any of them it would be the biggest embarrassment in England's history, not just in football but in life. Fucking Japan He's just proven the world wide media machines relationship with England has two intensities, the one where England are going to win the World Cup and the other that Japan are better than us! It's always one of the other. Stick to crying about the ashes and when we beat your rugby team convict. Japan had already qualified for the next round by the time they played North Korea you arse-clown, so therefore the fixture was quite literally meaningless. Tbf though, going to Pyongyang and picking up a result is a right old cunt for any team, not least of all Japan who North Koreans are educated to hate and are treated in an extremely hostile manner from the moment their plane lands on their turf. Now could England go over there and do it? Fuck off man, they can't even beat Algeria on neutral territory, you're having a laugh there! As I've posted before, it wouldn't matter who the manager of England is. If you don't have the players the best thing to do is park the bus and scrap, Capello had obviously come to that conclusion the moment he agreed to take on that dead-end job. And aside from thinking the FIFA ranking system is a joke and should not be taken seriously - is going to Moldova, Faroes, Cyprus or Luxembourg as an unappealing prospect as going to a muppet state with third-rate facilities? No, not quite. What a cunt. Four words come to mind "sport to new the". That's that.

What the fuck are you on about, you mad, bigoted wanker? Can you not fucking read you left clem?

Nar mate.

Well put across. How does that explain the fact that Asian population of England and France is probably the same if not more than the black populations, yet there are literally NO asian players at all, yet blacks make up maybe 25%. You will find that asian parents push their children in education rather than sports. It's a cultural thing. You will also find that asians (Indian and Chinese) children tend to perform the best in public examinations also. Where they are pushed, it's often cricket, etc. There is a genetic element aswell, asians tend to be less built. There are more Pakistani's than Indians and Chinese put together though in the UK. They certainly don't come in to your education remarks, looking at places like Bradford and Oldham. Spanish are less built look at their midfield but they do ok.

Well put across. How does that explain the fact that Asian population of England and France is probably the same if not more than the black populations, yet there are literally NO asian players at all, yet blacks make up maybe 25%.

See he's back against the toon reserves tonight. He's going to get some abuse off the toon fans.

Fuckin hell he was a mackem too!

I've recorded this me pal text me to tell me it was on at 9pm, but I was watching the England game. Looking forward to it.

I seriously fancy Liverpool to get a hiding though they're pish, and I can't put a toon defeat down.

Some wierdo's on here like. That Japanese torture/human guinea pig camp, it's been on my mind since some cunt put it up on here, and now people are on about fucking "favourite serial killers"! Fucking wronguns, and wronguns is the right word.

Compared to who though? I think the FIFA rankings are fair enough, in two weeks time we'll be fifth, that's based on international results, NOT OPINIONS, results. What do people want from England? 5th-7th will always be our level. Maybe we should look at Norway's techniques eh??? Even Bobby Gould and Tony Pulis would say you play too many long balls. tbh stevie i'm reasonably sure you were slating the rankings before when the usa were high flyers. how quickly people forget the big dreams of last summer when it all went horribly wrong, 2 draws and 1 win, then a humping off the only decent side you played really. It'd do you lads no harm if the media didn't hype it up with the contender bollocks every tournament and took a bit of the underdog humility. Always the same tenner on rooney being compared to Messi within 10minutes of englands first game (even if he's not playing) They altered the rankings to make USA and Mexico appear more realistic. FWIW, I think USA would easily be in the top 16 teams in Europe. Good result last night for them, and they had France all over on Friday by all accounts. I agree we need to go in to 2012 with no expectations, we're unbeaten this calendar year, but we're not flowing as we should and he has no idea what his best side is. The last two last four showings we had we went in there, with the press saying we're worse than Scotland, and we should've won both tournaments in 90 and 96 in the end, and would have done if we could take penalties.

You'd end up with Roy Keane

Norwich 1 Arsenal 2 Everton 1 Wolverhampton 1 Man City 0 Newcastle 0 Stoke 1 QPR 0 Sunderland 2 Fulham 1 West Brom 2 Bolton 2 Wigan 2 Blackburn 4 Swansea 0 Man Utd 3 Chelsea 4 Liverpool 1 Tottenham 1 Aston Villa 1

I would accept a foreigner if they've had years of experience within English football. We would definitely move up a bit with Wenger in charge for instance imo.

There's be no statements about winning it, I mean we're not a good side and not good enough, but I repeat we are the 4th at worst 5th best side in Europe. There'll be no volcano, at worst it'll lie dormant with a 3.6 on the richter scale earthquake if we beat one of the big teams in the groups. That has been statistically consistent for probably ten years. As for whether some nobhead in Walkaboutcreek thinks we're shite that's up to him. I'm sure he's aware Australia are worse than Scotland, Ireland and arguably Wales which is why he should stick to dodging sharks and drinking Fosters. We could end up with this group as well. Oh dear. Spain, England, Portugal, France. Literally anything could happen if that's what we get, but on the other side of the coin, we could get Poland, England, Greece, Ireland.

Utter pish. Japan lost today to wait for it.....drum roll................NORTH FUCKIN KOREA. That team in our group, Montenegro are better than Japan. Confident enough of Japan beating England to put money on it, people are getting way too carried away here as 'shite' as people like to think England are we're still a very strong international side. I've just noticed he'd put money on it If England lost a game to North Korea, the manager would be sacked on the spot, they're ranked 125th in the world, below Moldova, Faroes, Cyprus or Luxembourg. If we lost against any of them it would be the biggest embarrassment in England's history, not just in football but in life. Fucking Japan He's just proven the world wide media machines relationship with England has two intensities, the one where England are going to win the World Cup and the other that Japan are better than us! It's always one of the other. Stick to crying about the ashes and when we beat your rugby team convict.

Aye excellent crack Tom. I wasn't aware Italians shut the door to foreigners between 66 and 80 I knew there were restrictions, but I didn't realise they operated a Nick Griffin type policy. I think if we ever are to make that leap from 5th-10th to 1st or 2nd, two things need to happen, one is at least 6 or 7 Englishmen in every club team at the start of a game, and two a healthy amount of English players playing in France, Germany, Italy and Spain. We're being squeezed at both ends with regards to that, cos a lot of teams have one or two, and no one other than Joe Cole and Carson play abroad.

This is a criminally shit joke but I heard it tonight in the club off a drunken Scotsman and this thread is for even shit jokes. "Why dae scouse women, like a mans baws slappin em durin sex? So they get the FULL BENEFIT." It was a shit joke, and it was so shit I laughed like a mug for a good 30 seconds.

Would be a right bonus if it hit Iran, would sort a lot of things out. If it hit water a lot of people would be fucked though with 200 feet tidal waves, we'd be alright Ireland would shield us if it hit the Atlantic, and only the likes of Bristol would get it, and people forget Bristol is even there.

The European Championship is much higher calibre than the World Cup looking at individual games. If I was in charge of FIFA. I'd give 20 places to Europe 6 to South America, 4 to Africa, 1 to North America and 1 to Asia (including Australia and NZ).

Teams like Spain come along once every 30 years. We're not technically good enough gauged against them yes. As Zathras book points out 6th or 7th best in the world is probably about our level looking at demographics, so why is it such a tragedy and such a failure? Tbh I think 1 World Cup success given our size is a respectable achievement. Obviously France and Spain hadn't won it at all til the last dozen years so we were doing 'better' than them historically. Now I spose we're at the bottom of the pile of the top European nations though. You're right about Spain being a once in a generation team but they still had to turn that into a winning team. Theres only two trophies to play for and they've won them both and done it in quick order. That French team did similar. Gifted teams are one thing but tournament mentality is another issue altogether and I dont think we can claim that as a strong suit unfortunately. Aye I agree, and I agree that the English football season is a unique factor. The intensity in any other league is incomparable to the Premiership, and as we have no decent player prepared to play abroad and by May and June the players are fucked. Platini might be a wank but he's right when he says English players are lions in the autumn and lambs in the spring. It's the long season. There are lots of excuses, but they're only excuses against why we're not the best. We're not the best because only one team can be the best, and we're not it. Our players are generally the most spoilt, famous, gluttonous sportsmen in the world from any country, and it's the culture we have created for them. I get the impression that over the last 20 years we have lost something as a nation, in 1990 those kids would've pissed blood for England, Pearce, Butcher, Gazza, but these mugs now oh dear. There's not one personality amongst them, they're all Frank Lampard arrogant type cunts (and he's one of the better ones). Anyway though I'll say it again, are we shite compared to Spain? Yes. Are we shite compared to anyone else? No.

England Reserves mate. We should've been 3 or 4-0 up at half time. At least eight of them tonight should get no where near the pitch next year.

Compared to who though? I think the FIFA rankings are fair enough, in two weeks time we'll be fifth, that's based on international results, NOT OPINIONS, results. What do people want from England? 5th-7th will always be our level. Maybe we should look at Norway's techniques eh??? Even Bobby Gould and Tony Pulis would say you play too many long balls.