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Emre has not excelled at anything this year.

The Alan Smith Debate as played out on the terraces every week: Is he for fucking real or what?

debate?

Just delete this stupid thread.

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If NUFC ever got a 'good' manager, then giving him time would be the appropriate course of action, and comparisons to Real Madrid would still be ridiculous compared to a comparison with Alex Ferguson.

Chelsea have probably had as many premier league managers as us. But then they're no comparison either what with their billionaire owner. Yes, let's wait for Mourinho and then buy every player available. Success here we come!

Anyway, if you knew the temperatures that microwaves can generate in matter within seconds it's quite clear you would be brain dead and hence properly dead within seconds, whether you are 'done' or not. Probably dead before you hit the floor even. The temperature window the brain can tolerate is quite small.

Wasn't that the guy who decided to service an oven at a bakery without switching it off?

And out of interest which PL clubs would you mark out as having continued success from frequently changing managers?

there is evidence that good managers still need time. Benitez, Ferguson were both slow to start. And while they're better managers than Sam, at bigger clubs with bigger players, it's evidence that chopping and changing managers isn't the way to go. Who know what the transfer window will bring (other than Tozer ) I want Sam to stay, but I really am getting sick of the "good managers need time" line and Ferguson comparisons being trotted out. In about 20 years Real Madrid haven't had a manager that's lasted more than 2 seasons. They get sacked for not winning enough trophies, rather than enough games. Hackneyed cliche. I can't believe RM get used as a template for chaning managers = success either. There are quite obvious reasons why changing managers doesn't do them any harm, which have nothing to do with NUFC. Raising Man U from obscurity to champions does though. Like Alex says, Fergie is a one off, so are Madrid, so why do people use Fergie as an example but not say "you need instability at a club for success, look at Real Madrid". Both equally shit, over simplified ideas. What is the manager history at the likes of Barca, Milan, Bayern etc etc? RM are not a one-off, there are sound reasons why their strategy works. So your agreeing that most succesful clubs change manager frequently? AC Milan too. Almost a manager a year for 20 years prior to 2000. I'm saying RM are not a one off, and that there are reasons why changing manager doesn't do them any harm, as opposed to being the reason for their success. ...but Ferguson is a one off and you're saying Man U should be used for a comparison with NUFC? Are you saying it makes sense to follow a rarely replicated design for success rather than a frequently replicated one. I am saying frequently changing managers is not the reason RM etc are successfull. The negative effect of changing a manager for the likes of RM is mitigated by other factors, which NUFC do not possess, so on balance they can afford to change a manager without pause if they think they are doing shit.

there is evidence that good managers still need time. Benitez, Ferguson were both slow to start. And while they're better managers than Sam, at bigger clubs with bigger players, it's evidence that chopping and changing managers isn't the way to go. Who know what the transfer window will bring (other than Tozer ) I want Sam to stay, but I really am getting sick of the "good managers need time" line and Ferguson comparisons being trotted out. In about 20 years Real Madrid haven't had a manager that's lasted more than 2 seasons. They get sacked for not winning enough trophies, rather than enough games. Hackneyed cliche. I can't believe RM get used as a template for chaning managers = success either. There are quite obvious reasons why changing managers doesn't do them any harm, which have nothing to do with NUFC. Raising Man U from obscurity to champions does though. Like Alex says, Fergie is a one off, so are Madrid, so why do people use Fergie as an example but not say "you need instability at a club for success, look at Real Madrid". Both equally shit, over simplified ideas. What is the manager history at the likes of Barca, Milan, Bayern etc etc? RM are not a one-off, there are sound reasons why their strategy works. So your agreeing that most succesful clubs change manager frequently? AC Milan too. Almost a manager a year for 20 years prior to 2000. I'm saying RM are not a one off, and that there are reasons why changing manager doesn't do them any harm, as opposed to being the reason for their success.

there is evidence that good managers still need time. Benitez, Ferguson were both slow to start. And while they're better managers than Sam, at bigger clubs with bigger players, it's evidence that chopping and changing managers isn't the way to go. Who know what the transfer window will bring (other than Tozer ) I want Sam to stay, but I really am getting sick of the "good managers need time" line and Ferguson comparisons being trotted out. In about 20 years Real Madrid haven't had a manager that's lasted more than 2 seasons. They get sacked for not winning enough trophies, rather than enough games. Hackneyed cliche. I can't believe RM get used as a template for chaning managers = success either. There are quite obvious reasons why changing managers doesn't do them any harm, which have nothing to do with NUFC. Raising Man U from obscurity to champions does though. Ferguson didn't do that btw. 11th place in his first year. 4th place the year before under Atkinson. They were a huge club, arguably as big as Liverpool even then. Obscurity suggests they were not very well known. Suggesting that's what they were is laughable. I assume you used the wrong word. NUFC dropped from 5th to mid table too. Hardly a non-comparison is it?

there is evidence that good managers still need time. Benitez, Ferguson were both slow to start. And while they're better managers than Sam, at bigger clubs with bigger players, it's evidence that chopping and changing managers isn't the way to go. Who know what the transfer window will bring (other than Tozer ) I want Sam to stay, but I really am getting sick of the "good managers need time" line and Ferguson comparisons being trotted out. In about 20 years Real Madrid haven't had a manager that's lasted more than 2 seasons. They get sacked for not winning enough trophies, rather than enough games. Hackneyed cliche. I can't believe RM get used as a template for chaning managers = success either. There are quite obvious reasons why changing managers doesn't do them any harm, which have nothing to do with NUFC. Raising Man U from obscurity to champions does though. Like Alex says, Fergie is a one off, so are Madrid, so why do people use Fergie as an example but not say "you need instability at a club for success, look at Real Madrid". Both equally shit, over simplified ideas. What is the manager history at the likes of Barca, Milan, Bayern etc etc? RM are not a one-off, there are sound reasons why their strategy works.

Catmag's gonna have you Kitten was an arbitrarily chosen small animal. Okay, put a puppy/tortoise/hamster/guinea pig/your animal of choice that fits within the confines of a microwave into a microwave and see what happens. You might void your warranty though. RSPCA is gonna have you.

there is evidence that good managers still need time. Benitez, Ferguson were both slow to start. And while they're better managers than Sam, at bigger clubs with bigger players, it's evidence that chopping and changing managers isn't the way to go. Who know what the transfer window will bring (other than Tozer ) I want Sam to stay, but I really am getting sick of the "good managers need time" line and Ferguson comparisons being trotted out. In about 20 years Real Madrid haven't had a manager that's lasted more than 2 seasons. They get sacked for not winning enough trophies, rather than enough games. Hackneyed cliche. I can't believe RM get used as a template for chaning managers = success either. There are quite obvious reasons why changing managers doesn't do them any harm, which have nothing to do with NUFC. Raising Man U from obscurity to champions does though. Ferguson didn't do that btw. 11th place in his first year. 4th place the year before under Atkinson.

'Nolan wants Big Sam' would hardly be true either going by Gary Megsons quotes.

You would die within seconds.

there is evidence that good managers still need time. Benitez, Ferguson were both slow to start. And while they're better managers than Sam, at bigger clubs with bigger players, it's evidence that chopping and changing managers isn't the way to go. Who know what the transfer window will bring (other than Tozer ) I want Sam to stay, but I really am getting sick of the "good managers need time" line and Ferguson comparisons being trotted out. In about 20 years Real Madrid haven't had a manager that's lasted more than 2 seasons. They get sacked for not winning enough trophies, rather than enough games. Hackneyed cliche. I can't believe RM get used as a template for chaning managers = success either. There are quite obvious reasons why changing managers doesn't do them any harm, which have nothing to do with NUFC. Raising Man U from obscurity to champions does though.

You'd be dead within seconds.

I believe it is not the flu, but norovirus.

Are you guys trying to prove the article right?

In fact the Direct Debit guarantee means he's lost nothing, so his point still stands.

Who Stoke?