ChezGiven

No way! Is that true?

The kid who played Paul, Kevin's best mate in The Wonder Years grew up to be Marilyn Manson.

I dont think you were right, iirc you thought he'd be sacked as we'd be doing shit not because he was never Ashley's man and not part of some hitherto unspecified plan to install his own manager and back him with cash in the next window, as per yesterday. Hughton may have been sacked but all your reasons were wrong. Also CT was expressing confidence about our prospects this season, which is what you had the problem with. It may be hypocritical but i dont stand to gain from it personally so am not arsed if you think that. I also have offered it in a perfectly reasonable manner rather than to prove someone else is a cunt.

And that they have lied in the past which means even if Pardew says he's staying, no-one believes it. I dont blame anyone for that either.

You should be giving odds tbh. It's not an expectation, it's a concern. I think any side with Carroll in who had just come up from the economic wilderness of the championship would be (and should be) concerned about keeping him. My point is that the best predictor of events in this window is the last window not the one where Given got sold or the one before that. If your opinion hasnt changed after signing Ben Arfa yesterday, you'll have to explain why to me. We sell him, i donate a 100 to a charity of your choice. We keep him and you do the same. Nae odds. Totally confident the Carroll thing is purely media talk which might have been propogated by Redknapp and his drinking budies as a feeler. I'm a bit more confident than that. Its the saggy faced cunt's MO.

Are Arsenal a selling club HF?

Not sure about what they said....because whatever they come out with is bollocks 90% of the time anyway. But a young lad like Bassong bought for nothing and on one of the lowest wages at the club being sold for profit suggests they have no qualms about selling our best young players. It could hardly be included in clearing out the dead wood. He wanted to leave because we got relegated man, not because we wanted to sell our best young players. Unbelievable that people include the selling of players after a relegation as part of the criteria that we're a selling club. Chez says we can't use any other windows where we've sold players either, like the Given one or the milner one. Restrictive conditions these. Fact is, Ashley remains well in profit from transfers....concern about his love of a profit are entirely legitimate. You can use what you like to make your assessment of the odds for the bet. As ASM says, we arent a selling club because we sold players after relegation.

You should be giving odds tbh. It's not an expectation, it's a concern. I think any side with Carroll in who had just come up from the economic wilderness of the championship would be (and should be) concerned about keeping him. My point is that the best predictor of events in this window is the last window not the one where Given got sold or the one before that. If your opinion hasnt changed after signing Ben Arfa yesterday, you'll have to explain why to me. We sell him, i donate a 100 to a charity of your choice. We keep him and you do the same. Nae odds. I'd say the previous winter window that we were in the Premier league (where we were in a similar position) is the best indicator. The last window was a season starting window when season tickets were on sale. We spent as much on Nolan in the Given window as we spent on Ben Arfa yesterday. Not sure how signing cheaper players than those we sell would be any sort of evidence of anything having changed at the club. So which charity are you thinking then?

They're proven liars, who gives a fuck what they say.

Not sure about what they said....because whatever they come out with is bollocks 90% of the time anyway. But a young lad like Bassong bought for nothing and on one of the lowest wages at the club being sold for profit suggests they have no qualms about selling our best young players. It could hardly be included in clearing out the dead wood. We got relegated, different circumstances.

You should be giving odds tbh. It's not an expectation, it's a concern. I think any side with Carroll in who had just come up from the economic wilderness of the championship would be (and should be) concerned about keeping him. My point is that the best predictor of events in this window is the last window not the one where Given got sold or the one before that. If your opinion hasnt changed after signing Ben Arfa yesterday, you'll have to explain why to me. We sell him, i donate a 100 to a charity of your choice. We keep him and you do the same. Nae odds.

precisely. Which method are you two referring to? The club is not being run by the same methods this season compared to last season. Last season was different to the season before. I dont see any method which is consistent across the last 3 seasons. There is an offer of a 100 quid bet for charity on the table for anyone who wants to claim Carroll will be sold this window. I would take the bet however theres too many factors. My logic on it is that if a bid of £20m was to come in for Carroll then Ashley would accept it. Trouble with betting on that is I lose should no bid come in, Carroll breaks his leg, the club is sold, Redknapp has a heart attack etc etc Well neither you are Leazes have said which method you are referring to. I still dont see the clear consistent and predictable patterns that you both claim to see. As for the bet, first thing i would say is that football chairman dont arrive at work one morning, check the fax machine and go 'oooh look, a 22m offer for Carroll has arrived'. Enquiries get made first, then offers are made. If, as you say, the club are willing to sell him then Redknapp would know that by now. It seems not to be the case though. For the leg break, club sold, Redknapp heart attack bit, these are events of such low probability that the 100 quid bet is therefore a bet against these happening. Are you not prepared to bet 100 on those three not happening? I would if i was certain they were the only possible things standing in the way of him being sold. Am not trying to force the bet here either, am just using it as tool to get under the logic of what people are saying. I might be wrong on this but you dont buy Ben Arfa and then sell the player who he can supply goals to in the same window. As much as nothing much under this lot has made sense, it doesnt fit with the last 2 windows or yesterday's news.

precisely. Which method are you two referring to? The club is not being run by the same methods this season compared to last season. Last season was different to the season before. I dont see any method which is consistent across the last 3 seasons. There is an offer of a 100 quid bet for charity on the table for anyone who wants to claim Carroll will be sold this window.

More Mystic Keg predictions for a second day running. Early contender for 'Best new nickname of 2011'. Played Mac-toon.

If only you knew what the elite were watching it on Kev's were all shit, i got mine from elsewhere.

Can you really see AC agreeing to fuck US over in that way? What loyalty does he have to us? Quite a lot, i would say. I'll happily take a charity bet of £100 on whether he will be here in Feb.

Bit harsh on a 19 year old. Especially when he played a lot of the game on his own up front. He does seem to lack finishing ability though - which I hope he can sort out soon. A loan would be a good a move. Aye, a bit harsh. His spirit and battle up front is fine, its the total lack of composure and concentration with the ball at his feet makes me think he is never going to perform. After Best's showing tonight, Ranger is no better than 5th in the pecking order. We're in the market for a new player up front too.

Ranger was dog-shit, nevermind that miss which was one of the worst misses seen at our place for ages, the rest of his game was atrocious. Get rid.

West Ham are fucking shit.

Delighted for him but only because of the infantile shite thats written about him on forums and twitter.

You need happy a medium though. I find skinny as fuck flat chested women as repulsive as morbidly obese. I don't mean stick thin. I'm more referring to your typical mackem lass 'Massive belly with tiny tits'. Looks awful, imo. I'm happy with a swimmers physique. Not skinny, not fat, just toned and healthy. That's a right con in my book. Vile, tbh. Anyway, what am I talking about. I've been with my lass for years. Had first bairn at 20 and havn't fired into anything for a long time. Still have a little peruse now and again though If you did I bet you'd have the jesters feet after about 5 seconds. Up and over like a pan of milk. No disrespect to your lass, obviously.

When i was sinlge a few years back a mate's lass tried to set me up with her mate who was 6'7. I met her when we were all out one night, she was good looking and decent to talk to but all i could think of when talking to her was 'i could lick you oot standing up'. Not a good sign. [Videprinter]...6ft7...(SIX FOOT SEVEN)...[Videprinter/] Fuck me gently! I'm 6ft2 and my limit is about 5ft5 tbh. Would have to be gently. Anything vigorous with her on top and i'd have snapped in half man!