PaddockLad
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True, and I'm one who does like the policy, getting the likes mbiwa, debuchy and sissoko is the proof it's worth persisting with, however it seems incomplete to me. It would be perfect if there was also the willingness to go and spend when it's needed also.
Its not incomplete, it is what it is. Ashley had a look in the summer and didnt fancy the prices. He liked them a lot more in January, many agreed. Thing is, if we go down, its going to look very short sighted.....to some
I'm not saying its right or wrong, if we stay up the lack of Europe next season may well help us where it definetly hindered our league form this term. We need a striker and a centre back. But if Mike doesnt like the market again this summer then I wouldn't be holding my breath around the end of August....That kid at St Etienne is someone I've actually seen on ESPN two or three times and he looks fuckin mustard. Is there anyone else interested?...bound to be some big hitters iyam, I think he's unlikely.
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Manu banned Cantona themselves for the old kung fu kick. Is this of the same magnitude?..."example to youngsters" etc etc?...
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Pretty much where the majority of people expected us to end up.
Pardew's limitations have been laid bare this season, however he's not the abomination that the melodramatic crowd are making out. The inescapable truths are that:
- We have been crippled by injuries (and injuries to key individuals specifically).
- The thin squad that was incredibly lucky in terms of injuries and suspensions last season wasn't strengthened properly until January
- The extra games in Europe stretched that thin squad to breaking (West Brom was our 50th game this season It was their 34th)
- Pardew isn't getting the best out of the players that are fit
- There are issues on the pitch that are a direct result of coaching (Our set-pieces are a disgrace for example and that's not quality of the player, it's the quality of the coaching)
I understand why people think getting shot of Pardew would solve some of these problems (4 & 5), but the underlying issues (the lack of strength in depth) can only be resolved by better luck on the injury front and by the Owner signing more players at the right time.
Thing is, I think its fair to say that possibly 3 of the January deals just weren't possible in the summer on the terms we eventually agreed...Debuchy, Sissoko and Yanga. A lot of people like this policy. Or possibly a lot of people liked this policy when we finsihed 5th. The policy hasnt changed though. Theres a lot of criticism for Ashley for not strengthening in the summer, but if he had done it may have cost the club 5-10million more. We cant have it both ways, and there has been a lot of praise for this policy.
- We have been crippled by injuries (and injuries to key individuals specifically).
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OK, here's another off the Pardew thread,
"Moyes is a just a better version of Pardew. He isn't what most people on here want in a future manager."
Sorry if I'm not putting much effort into this but it's a waste of time tbh .......... whatever I post someone will just say 'he doesn't speak for every Newcastle fan in the world so you're wrong'.
You always blame 'a handful of idiots no matter what the occasion is.
It was a handful of idiots who swamped SJP when Keegan came back, when Houghton was sacked, when Robson was booed, when the bedsheets come out, etc etc etc.
You must have a very busy 'handful of idiots'.
I've not blamed "a handful of idiots", I've not blamed anyone for anything! People are entitled to their opinions, what else do you want me to say?....you're continuing what appears to be a well worn narrative on Wearside, that we're a bunch of fuckin idiots. Well fuck me, thanks for the update.It doesn't mean its true does it? We're no better and no worse than any other group of supporters, including you lot. Now, if you don't want to appear to be "dodging the subject", are you happy to have someone capable of abusing lone black women inside a football ground among your support and should we judge you all by that? -
That banner just one example which you don't appear willing to agree with or otherwise.
What came across, on TV, ws that most of the ground was applauding as it was paraded around, so much for 'a handful of idiots'.
The protests soon stopped when results picked up though.
There were no protests after that day. We were relegated 8 months later. Did the cockney mafia bloke have a point?...could he see where conspiring to get rid of Keegan would end up?...shit, who'd have thought it?...I honestly cant see why you'd give a flying fuck about any of that though..
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Or having convicted racist playing for your team perhaps?
I'm not saying all Newcastle fans are bad and all Sunderland good, just giving an honest general opinion.
If you can't see that then who cares?
Riiight....who was that again?...and we're talking about fans here, you keep dragging players into it. Neither Bowyer or Wooodgate were charged with a racial offence, if that's what you're on about. Woodgate was convicted of Affray, Bowyer was cleared of all charges.
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Of course I'm not saying EVERY Newcastle supporter has exactly the same opinion ffs
I'm saying the many people, other than Sunderland, see Newcastle fans as deluded.
You choose not to believe it which is fine, who cares, I don't. I was just asked a question and responded.
I see you're another who ignores anything you don't wish to acknowledge like the mock funeral, Cockney Mafia shite etc.
Don't you think it makes you look poor or are you just blaming 'a handful of idiots' as well?
The cockney mafia banner was done by someone I know well. It was his opinion. I didn't share it and couldn't give a fuck how he came across, it was his opinion. He certainly didn't come across worse than some dumb fuck picking on a loan black woman at a football match. But you're not all tarred by that are you?
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As I've said previously you'll always blame all that shite is blamed on a 'handful of idiots' because you think it sweeps it all away. It doesn't though, it sticks in people's minds.
I see you choose to ignore the mock funeral etc etc etc or anything else you don't wish to acknowledge, which seems to be a pattern on here
Surely though you have to admit that, whenever there's the slightest sniff of a TV camera, there are people traipsing up to SJP with banners and jumping around behind the presenter ........ or perhaps you won't.
Nowt more embarrassing than racially abusing your leading scorer's mother at a game...does it mean that all mackems are racist?...Bent soon fucked off, that actually hurt your team.
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This is one entire post, which you'll no doubt say is 'just one idiot'.
"Moyes rumoured to be leaving Everton this season. I'd have him here in a heartbeat, preferably with Jagielka too."
The thing is that whichever examples of delusion I post you'll just say, 'That's just a few idiots' so it's pointless.
In any case you'll believe what you want to believe and no one wants to believe they appear deluded.
So we all have the same opinions then, is that what you're saying?...when there are at least 3 saying that Moyes wouldn't come?
Did anyone mention the fabuously named Jurgen Klopp on RTG?...its the same thing...why don't you get it? -
the thread in which at least 3 posters have stated Moyes wouldn't come here anyway? try again old son, perhaps with equally stupid claptrap from a month or so ago about some of your lot wanting Peter Reid or Kevin Ball to replace O'Neil as manager till the end of the season. You cant tar everyone with the same brush, its fuckin stupid man. can't you see that?You lot keep asking me questions, I'm just being polite and responding.
If you want 'fans' delusion try your Pardew thread where you're discussing Moyes replacing Rodger the Dodger when he's sacked at the end of the season
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Don't think it was Sunderland tbh, but there's endless examples over there ....... even the known regular Mags can't believe some of it.
Anyway, you were asking about why people view Newcastle as deluded, will this do .............
That's one of our players
....thought the fans were "deluded"?....suppose we all are?..... what you may need to do is ask yourself though is why you actually give a shit about some banal pre season utternaces from a foreign player of a club you don't support?... what the fuck are you trying to prove? -
Turned on and it was 1 nowt to Man City 3 good goals by Spurs. Havent seen enough to agree with Neville but he's saying Huddlestone coming on changed the game. Who did he come on for?...then Neville names Bale as motm?..
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Moyes isn't coming here, forget it.
Moyes is looking for a step up, not sideways. Stevie can fill 4 sheets of A3 on why he thinks we're a bigger and better club but that's not how we're viewed by the wider football public. Not sure even if Moyes will go anywhere. Who's he been linked with?...Manu?...not for a couple of seasons yet I wouldn't have thought.
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Would people show any patience - a lot of people don't like the ''hoofball'' we turn to but they couldn't tolerate a lot of Liverpool's football or shit atmosphere.
Yeah it could be argued that Benitez is just Pardew with knobs on, very pragmatic. He's got something though, good at cup ties etc..It showed he's got real fuckin balls taking the Chelsea job too.I think he'd be a good appointment but don't for a minute think he'd even talk to us.
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Why be so adamant that we can't replace him adequately?
Ok. what's the shortlist?....who would come that's better?....am not saying its impossible, but think about it....looking at this summer I think Bentiez would be the absolute pinnacle of expectations but he'd want real money so he's a non starter iyam. Anyone else who would come who has regularly got a team into Europe?...am not suggesting David Moyes would ever come to us, but that's not a trick even he can pull off under similar financial conditions
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and the PERFECT time to do that is during a relegation battle.
Thing is, assuming we stay up, if we're in the bottom half dozen at the end of September he'll either be sacked or under huge pressure. Last weekend damaged him, not fatally, but he's "winged". Derby disasters put all a managers failings into sharper focus.
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The peasants are revolting. They've got valid enough reasons. Thing is Ashley has always appointed someone needing a job and who was greatful for the chance. He needs to be as ambitious with his next managerial appointment as he has been with the players who have come to the club. He'll pull the trigger when he needs to, ask Hughton. But as I've said, the 8 year contract sends a message and if we're bobbing along in mid table for most of that it may well suit Ashley very well as he claws back his investment. Then you've got to get someone who would gladly work for Ashley...lets face it, we're not looking upwards, even fuckin Redknapp refused. But people need to realise Pardew didn't give himself the contract. If he's mediocre verging on shit and its got to the point where its time for a change then some people need to start getting the message to the man who appointed him.We've been (as have most clubs) unrelentingly crap at that forever (with a couple of rare exceptions).
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All those calling Pardew are reminding me of the Blackburn fans who called Steve Kean all last season.....theyre missing the point by a million fucking miles. 8 year contracts do tend to send a very specific message.
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Who's responsible for appointing the manager?
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Best job application I've ever read
This was less good though: “The first shirt I bought my son was Leeds United with the sock tie-ups -
No Demba?....just confirms he's still horrifically under rated.
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Its nothing tbh, I couldn't give a fuck what he says anyway. it comes across as an honestly held opinion. In saying that, you could say that by reacting to the criticism after Sunday by having a bit of a dig back that he doesn't realise the local significance of the game/result. But we have got to put it aside. No Tiote or Marveux v WBA is more of a concern for me than Pardew getting a bit tetchy in a press conference.
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Nailed on we'll sign him now...been a good player, still young, had some misfortune that has stalled his career, bit of a gamble?....Sold to the man in the XXXL black and white shirt from Hertfordshire
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Aye, the humdinger that was the Leicester 5-4 and then this last minute beauty..
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The one and only time I ever stood in the Leazes was that day
Leicester was unreal...I think half walked out at 4-1...lost our car at Barnsley, wandering around in the dark for over an hour looking for the thing, Oldham away, worst pitch I'd ever seen but I think Clarkey came off the bench for the first time showed one or two nice touches...he might have captained England schools not long before, think that was the story...great days, miss the sheer simplicity of following football back then. Ran into a lad from Wooler in Kharkiv from those days, brought back a lot of memories.
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Are you genuine about not renewing next season because of Pardew?....would any change of manager get you to reconsider?...