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  1. According to that Guardian article Smalling is likely to be going...no he's not, I've just read it again and you're right he's injured! It says Lescott and Cahill will be the other 2...I'd have thought Jagielka wouldve been a better choice than Lescott but he's stuggled to get in the Everton side lately...its not because he's injured is it??!! ;)

  2. Hmmm....ignoring the racism court case for a moment, I realise Jones and Smalling are likely to be going but maybe manu's overall defensive frailities have cost Rio his place? not to mention his age, injuries etc....all Hodgson needed to do was look at Terry in the FA cup semi v Spurs and the first leg of the Barca champions league tie to see that Terry, to be fair, can still just about cut it at the top level. He was brilliant in both games as was Ashley Cole. But then you get him giving the Barca lad a sly kick in the back and getting sent off. And the racism thing.

  3. Mostly Tom theyve been very fortunate because of the tragedy in February 1958. Some would say they exploit this to make money. If you're keen on reading about this try Manchester United: The Betrayal of a Legend by Michael Crick and David Smith. The thing about that book is it was written in 1989, 3 years before the Premier League was formed. Its been going on a long time.

  4. Not me, I don't remember reading that on here either.

     

    this is it by Parky in the Alan Pardew thread:

     

    Teams like Ajax operate like this as they constantly lose players to 'bigger' clubs around Europe. It doesn't affect them so much as they are one of the top dogs in their league which is far less competitive. The model can work as Spurs have shown over the last few years, but topping up with fresh talent every year is always risky. The balance has to be found with which players we can afford to lose and which we need to keep as the core. IMO none of our players are safe if a 'big' offer comes in. But as in the Carroll case we were right to take the money which was the same as having a good run in the CL two seasons running cash wise.

     

     

    Thats what I'm getting at, if we are confident that our scouting network is second to none and we're confident we can replace like for like in the medium term, it does make you think.....60-80 million is 2 seasons champions league money (later stages money at the upper end of that too) without having to qualify for it. Going on immediate evidence, it took them a year to replace Carrol and we didnt bother getting another centre half when Taylor got injured either (that may have cost us a real crack at the top 4) so in a way we're being asked to be patient by the club as it is. A bit more paticence and we're sitting on a gold mine.

     

    Who's up for it?...Toonpack? you're generally in favour of what Asley has been doing, what if he sold the family jewels this summer?...

  5. Personally I believe we have already stolen a financial march on the other clubs (outside the mega rich) in that we have gone through our slash and burn phase of “extreme prudence”.

     

    If you look at this (and our latest figures would be even better):

     

    http://www.telegraph...-laid-bare.html

     

    We are in a much better state than most and the majority of the league just cannot keep going the way they are, they have to have their slash and burn, and the ownerships (Lerner/Short/Fenway for example) are making those “cut back/balance the books” noises already, not to mention the needs of FFP.

     

    Will we sell someone?, only if there is a buyer and they can offer absolute top dollar. We don’t need to sell but we will if the price is right (notwithstanding the effect of Agents and players twisting).

     

    Am mot on about selling "someone" am on about selling three or four of our best players....could you swallow that this summer?

  6. Goes along with the article where Llambias was interviewed that says the club will be looking at making a £10 million profit for this season.

     

    Should pay for a new right back at least.

     

    He could always charge us interest on his loans (that'd be about £6/7 Mill a year). Quid pro quo imo.

     

    Don't know why he doesn't get SD to pay the club and also in turn charge interest on the loans, that'd be the way to use SD corporate cash (not his personal cash) to make him some real personal cash. (if making more personal cash is/was his aim).

     

    Thats the other thing I was told, and its been said on here a lot too. Beats me what other options he had at the arse end of 2007 when the financial crisis first hit and credit streams were drying up and he was staring into a finanacial black hole of the previous owners making. Not really criticising him for being generous but what else could he do?

     

     

    If we're all on board Mike's happy bus I've ben thinking what would be the outcome of going the whole hog.....done a lot of thinking lately, really looked at things from a different angle and something someone (Gemmil?) said in a thread the other day really made me stop in my tracks....if we sold enough of our player's this summer to bring in 60 million quid what would that do for the club in the medium term?...as Gemmil (?) said, thats 2 years champions league money, which is a different way of looking at things for me completely.

     

    Would anyone agree with doing that this summer?...it would effect us hugely next season, but if we were patient, and replacements were as well recruited (i.e. value for money) and as good and settled in as quickly as our signings this season, would we steal a financial march on the clubs around us?....would it be, in the long term, beneficial for the club>? It would be a huge gamble, but as we know, Mike does like a punt...

  7. Robert Maxwell wasnt allowed to own Oxford and Derby, although Derby was in his sons name. Not sure if the morally upright bods at UEFA would take a similar line or not....

  8. it's not to promote the company, and keep the cash, is it though ? Shock, horror.

     

    I was told by a mate on the way to Everton at the weekend that if you've put 200 million of your own cash into something you're entitled to call it what you like....which is fair enough in a way, but thats not the way Dekka sold it to the supporters.Why couldnt they actually come out and say so? As we can see, revenue streams are growing in other areas, and without trying to be smart or anything this is undoubtedly good news. So why we've got a shitty add on to the grounds name is a mystery to me....maximising revenue streams anyone?...

  9. Nissan came here mainly as they had to be based in Europe to meet manufacturing criteria. Luckily we also had a government that was prepared to grease a few palms and make it worth their while.

     

    However doing a few deals to tempt inward investment is peanuts compared to subsidising huge nationalised industries that were only heading one way in the competitive stakes.

     

    With regard to the mining industry you also have to factor in the discovery and boom time of North sea gas which was also making coal more redundant to industry and consumers.

     

    I think Thatcher can rightly be compared to a vet putting a dying animal (nationalised manufacturing) out of it's misery.

     

    Difference as Ewark points out is that instead of an injection she used a brick.

     

    Not sure the unions would ever have accepted anything other than their way though.

     

    I haven't suggested that the mines shouldve been kept open....I'm making the point that the people who worked in them shouldnt have been left to rot. What did the Tories do for them?...next to fuck all as an act of revenge for their trade union causing a shower of shit for the previous 20 years.The same union which had been politicised by "extreamist" leaders...Arthur Scargill started the 80s miners strike with a large union and a small house and ended it with a small union and a large house.. Fair enough and hey- if you dont have to live in Barnsley or Easington who gives a fuck?...they've reaped what they sowed 30 years ago and theyve only got themselves to blame. Most folks wouldve gladly accepted a hand up rather than a hand out back then but its a different story now.

  10. I think it was called the Westbourne, not really sober enough to judge. Had a Brilliant weekend with mates, sitting in the sunshine, drinking and watching football.

     

    Mind, we went to "Aruba"? What a weird place Bournemouth is, plenty of stunning girls that nobody talks to. Never found it easier to spark up a conversation with girls this far south. :good: My mate is about to become a Dad, so I imagine a lot less weekends in Newcastle of Leeds and a lot more near his gaff in Bournemouth.

     

    It was the Westbourne, good boozer for watching games in, and also a well known haunt of plastic scousers. Had a refurb a few years back to what its like now, the old place could be a bit rough on days like yesterday. Think "yuppiefying" the place has driven the real scousers out. Aruba was the Showbar in my younger day and am now about 15 years too old for the place. Back then most Bournemouth girls wouldnt let on to you unless you were one of Jamie Redknapp's mates...that is obviously a complete fabrication, but it makes me feel better ;)

  11. First play off Thurs 23rd Aug, 2nd leg 30th Aug so I think our second and 3rd league games will be on Sundays....got to think that we'll be without Cabaye and Ben Arfa for all those fixtures....Krul too?

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