Christmas Tree

3 for me but as I've said elsewhere, the summer will tell us once and for all about Mike Ashley. It is a big shame the bloke is such a recluse and cant communicate with the fans. With regard to the wider public, in my experience the Ashley haters are in the minority with the rest just bemused by it all.

Excellent :lol: Holding up a photo too "That was me Christmas Tree, now look at me..." How long did it take you to lose 7lbs, a month or a week? A week, but Im guessing water retention played a part as well. Dangerous amount to lose so quickly that mate 7lbs good that you've done it but divvint kill yasel. Honestly Stevie, I ate better last week than I have for many a year. Ate at breakfast, luch and tea-time, snacks in between and even a few late night suppers. Going to be knackered this week as our lass made a meal out of Nigella Lawsons cook book that was full of all sorts of indulgences. Then Ive got the big match day out on Saturday!!!!!!!! Lots of dilemmas

Cheers CT, but I'm not sure I can take the credit for the recipe for a basic tomato-based pasta sauce Hey, you posted it so you get the credit. I was even passing it on to friends at the pub last night who are trying it tonight. About time you some more posted like........Just saying

A silly statement from someone who doesnt come across as particularly silly. Suggest you look at the link I posted for Fish. With regard to whether seven pounds is healthy or not what can I say. All I have done is go from eating shit and skipping a few meals to eating regulalry during the day and eating more fish fruit and vegetables and less kebabs and mcdonalds. I think its a pretty well known fact that your body retains a lot of water and if you suddenly increase your uptake of water to a more healthy level, your body then releases the retained water giving a higher weight loss than normal. Anyway, Im happy and feeling pretty damn good. i'll confess i'm ignorant to the exact workings of the weightwatchers plan. i'm just going on what you've posted on here. some of the ready meals you posted earlier in the thread looked completely lacking in nutritional value and the thing you mentioned about skipping meals so you could load up with beer and still clock in under your daily points allowance doesn't sound good. running a calorie deficit is one thing, but the food you put into your body should still be nutritious. if it isn't, your body will go into starvation mode, burn muscle and stubbornly cling on to fat so you end up with a 'skinny fat' body. i've been there myself and believe me - it isn't a good look. look, anything that gets you thinking about a healthier lifestyle is a good thing and you should be commended for starting on the right path but i'm sceptical about crash diets. i've tried them and while i've lost weight with them, but i've never found them to be a sustainable way way of staying in good shape. it's good that you're thinking about what you put in to your body but i suspect that if you want to really change the way you look and feel for the better in the long term, you will have to give up this plan and approach it in a more sensible way. Is the bottom line. An honestly, WW is not a crash diet, it IS an education process into healthy eating. One trip to their website would show any doubters this. Slimfast and all that baloney is the crash diet rubbish and at the end of the day it all depends on your mindset approaching this sort of thing. If your trying to drop a few stone for your holidays, then I agree nothing will work and it will all go back on. To me its light packing in smoking. Smoking is enjoyable. Thats a fact most smokers agree with. Eventually, most smokers will arrive at a point when they no that even though its enjoyable, they have to pack in to reduce health risks. I packed in 4 years ago by using patches and visiting a nurse once a week to blow into a tube to "prove" I hadnt had one. Its the same with me with Weight Watchers. I know Kebabs, Fish and Chips, Curries etc are enjoyable, but no good for my health therefore I am using weight watchers to "pack in" this crap and move over to a healthier diet. I dont view it as getting rid of a few stones so I can tuck back in to the bad stuff. Those are indeed the ones who will put it back on. This is why Im so keen to learn more about replacing the things I used to love with home made healthier options such as making my own curries etc. To me its not even a question of WILL i succeed, its ALREADY a done deal.

Easier said than done. My best mates a sparky and can eat all kinds of shit and drink what he likes and never changes weight. (The bastard). The job definitely doesnt help, but you find me another job where you can work when you feel like it, stop in bed if you fancy a lie in, go to work for an hour and then think naaaa not today......etc etc and I'll consider it. So you can stop in bed when you feel like it, take days off etc, yet you don't have time to exercise? You can't have it both ways, and you're making yourself sound like a right lazy twat. I've got to agree with the majority her CT and think you are doomed to failure. Losing half a stone in a week cannot be true weight loss, and there is no way you can keep this up in the long term - I've witnessed this with one of my mates who was gay enough to try weight watchers. He lost 3 stone and promptly put it back on again with interest. Having a desk job is a problem like. At the moment I literally have no time to exercise apart from one night a week. Hopefully things will calm down at work shortly and I can become more active during the spring. Now hey! He scorched the belt on his treadmill with a 3.2 mph stroll the other day. Love how it was 3.2 btw, like it was describing mach rather than mph. Even the elephants on the Biggest Loser run on the treadmill. Unfortunately mine seems to be slipping when I run which may mean a new belt is required. Even if it didnt, I think its sensible for an unfit, overweight 46 year old to start out slow and work up. Knackered today like with this bad back.

Excellent :lol: Holding up a photo too "That was me Christmas Tree, now look at me..." How long did it take you to lose 7lbs, a month or a week? A week, but Im guessing water retention played a part as well.

Bad back mood. Just helped the oldest daughter get settled into her new place and somehow tweaked by back carrying a tiny box. Apart from that Lifes Greeeeeeeeaaaaaat, as Tony would say.

Whats the word on Ireland?

Cant wait for this as this is the match our lass got me the tickets for on Valentines day. Nice and comfy with the prawn brigade in the Platinum club. Theres even talk of Stowell street for lunch beforehand. Really excited and think the rest will have done us good. Expecting a good old fashioned 3-1.

Course its possible and but for some atrocious luck it would already be signed, sealed, delivered.

Willy McKay sabre rattling to boost negotiations tbf.

The problem is we all want to be back in the early KK days breaking transfer records and challenging for the title. We are like a fat lass whose being used to shoving Kebabs in night after night and now has to make do with cucumber sandwiches. She yearns for the Kebabs. The football world has changed and without an Arab theres basically no chance of the top 4. What we would should all be interested is steady year on year progress. Thats what I will accept. I understand Alex's view of being sick of waiting for the promised land to appear, but I really think this summer is make or break. I want to see lots of money spent and good prospects coming into the club. Any other big sales like Enrique, also need to be re-invested. There will be no excuses, the moneys sitting there, they've got plenty of time to look about. The summer will dictate my purchase of a season ticket and Im sure there are quite a few, wisely in that camp.

Also have to give a mention again to USA Biggest Loser. Anyone watching the uk version but not this, give yourself a slap. What a bunch of two faced back stabbing bastards. Still 3 or 4 back seasons out there that are well worth a watch

Just beasted the treadmill again. Todays 30 minutes was at 3.2mph but level 5 height. Absolutely sweating like a porker.

In a silent sort of knowing not of the head way.

who is she?

Wonder how recent events will effect his game on Saturday? Will the boo boys be after him?

This will have to do for now. Notice the big silver 7, thats a shiny sticker you get for your first seven pounds accompanied by the gay meeting leader squeeling "well done you" in the campest voice you've ever heard :lol:

So you dont follow the fucking advice in the 338 page book your trying to get me to read

Excellent :lol:

Qu'est-ce que c'est? I assume he means like a plumber, bricky, sparky etc.......On the go.

Easier said than done. My best mates a sparky and can eat all kinds of shit and drink what he likes and never changes weight. (The bastard). The job definitely doesnt help, but you find me another job where you can work when you feel like it, stop in bed if you fancy a lie in, go to work for an hour and then think naaaa not today......etc etc and I'll consider it.

A silly statement from someone who doesnt come across as particularly silly. Suggest you look at the link I posted for Fish. With regard to whether seven pounds is healthy or not what can I say. All I have done is go from eating shit and skipping a few meals to eating regulalry during the day and eating more fish fruit and vegetables and less kebabs and mcdonalds. I think its a pretty well known fact that your body retains a lot of water and if you suddenly increase your uptake of water to a more healthy level, your body then releases the retained water giving a higher weight loss than normal. Anyway, Im happy and feeling pretty damn good.

Okay so had a 10 minute power read through a few chapters tonight. Tbh, I couldn't really see anything different to the weight watchers plan. Too many calories going in and not burned by the body leads to weight gain, too little leads to weight loss. Start watching what you eat, eat better foods, control portion size and life will be champion. Throw some regular exercise in and you might even live longer as well. Once you've reached your goal weight, keep monitoring or it will creep back on. All pretty much common sense stuff. Is there some big bit Im missing (as I will never get round to reading a 338 page ebook online). The weight watchers major attarction is that you are going to a meeting to get weighed. We all at times might tell ourselves a little lie or cheat ourselves on a diet or exercise regime, however when its not just you you are cheating, but also doing it publicly at a public weigh in, it makes you think a lot harder before sneaking that extra treat. No offence like CT, but you've basically admitted that you can't be bothered to read the book so I'm afraid I can't be bothered to type out what you can't be bothered to read. If you'd continued reading the book, you'd understand that losing 7 pounds in one week is basically impossible. The fact that you genuinely believe you've lost 7 pounds basically shows that you don't understand weight loss (if you read the book you would). You'd have to have had a massive calorie deficit over the last week (if you read the book, you'd know exactly how much ), and the only way you could have done that is by eating a hugely restricted diet and put in a phenomenal amount of exercise - you admit yourself you've been on the treadmill once in the last week. The reason you've "lost" 7 pounds is cos you played the Weightwatchers game. You admitted yourself that before your first weigh-in, you stuffed your face so that you could achieve greater losses in future weeks. Then I would imagine on the day of your latest weigh in you basically ate next to fuck all, drank next to nothing so you were suitably dehydrated, you've told us that this was the one day you went on the treadmill, and so you've ended up registering a Biggest Loser-esque "weight loss". It wouldn't surprise me if you wore a thick wooly jumper and cords last week, and shorts and t-shirt this. It's this Weightwatchers game that is the difference between what you're doing and what that book would have you doing - if you'd read on in the book, it teaches you a way of knowing your actual weight by removing the "noise" created by being dehydrated/not dehydrated, having had a big meal the night before weighing yourself etc. Once you know this actual weight, you can work out what your calorie surplus/deficit is without even having to count calories. Then you can just tweak your intake as you see your deficit shrinking, or a surplus turning up. All of this is done for you, for free, by just entering your daily weight on the website. And don't respond with the "OMG WW says not to weigh yourself daily!" cos the point is that by weighing yourself daily you can work out a rolling average which is your "true weight". WW don't want you weighing yourself daily cos it's not in their interests - if you did you'd discover that you're actually taking the piss out of yourself by playing this daft game. You're basically doing what boxers do between fights - starving yourself immediately before weigh-ins so that you can "make the weight" in front of a room full of people. Which is unsustainable. We've all seen what happens to Ricky Hatton when he doesn't need to get on scales in front of a room full of people. Do yourself a favour and read the book. Then stop playing silly weekly weigh-in games. Not sure what to make of this post Its almost an "Oh Dear" . (As it was 7.07am I'll put it down to early morning grump). Its not just a cant be bothered, but surely you'll agree a 338 page ebook on a lap top is some serious reading, hence the skip through and double hence not seeing much new or different other than tracking everything daily. If thats the big thing then its simply not for me. Not saying its not right for you, but too much detail for me. Regards your 7 pounds moan what can I say last week the scales said 14-7 this week 14-0. I put that down to totally giving up shit, eating lots of healthy fruit and veg and fish etc and trying to drink a bit more water and less alcohol????? Im sure you always get a first week "kick" so Im not expecting the same next week. Re the treadmill, your own guru says in his chapter on exercise that you shouldnt do it too lose weight as its impossible on his plan. Ate just the same on weigh in day with a bowl of alpen for breakfast, Smoked haddock salad for dinner, some fruit in the afternoon and absolutely gallons of water to help me recover from the treadmill. No wooly jumper. Your author is a computer geek hence his chosen method involves computers. For me its much simpler. As Fish has pointed out, a lot of it is common sense and I am quite confident that if I continue to eat a balanced healthy diet I will lose the weight put on since packing the fags in 3 or 4 years ago. The WW weigh in is my little conscience on my shoulder just saying "ahem" when temptation sets in. Hope you've cheered up anyway. (The stress of daily weigh ins is obviously getting to you)

Okay so had a 10 minute power read through a few chapters tonight. Tbh, I couldn't really see anything different to the weight watchers plan. Too many calories going in and not burned by the body leads to weight gain, too little leads to weight loss. Start watching what you eat, eat better foods, control portion size and life will be champion. Throw some regular exercise in and you might even live longer as well. Once you've reached your goal weight, keep monitoring or it will creep back on. All pretty much common sense stuff. Is there some big bit Im missing (as I will never get round to reading a 338 page ebook online). The weight watchers major attarction is that you are going to a meeting to get weighed. We all at times might tell ourselves a little lie or cheat ourselves on a diet or exercise regime, however when its not just you you are cheating, but also doing it publicly at a public weigh in, it makes you think a lot harder before sneaking that extra treat. The problem I see with WW is the fucked up logic it breeds. "Ooooh, I'm off out on Wednesday so I'll starve myself today so I can have a pile of Pâté, a steak and cheese pie, a slab of chocolate gateaux and a wheel of cheese with biscuits, plus ten beers and a waffer theeeen meeent" Seems it's the same as it ever was; better, more balanced diet and exercise. Weight loss and body tone, Done. Not at all. The logic is all about encouraging a change from a bad diet to a balanced healthy diet and encouraging exercise. A brief description here if you want to view. http://www.weightwatchers.co.uk/util/art/i...mp;art_ID=50951 To a degree you are right in what you say, the same old truth is the same old truth. But different people learn and get motivated in different ways. Like learning a language, some might go to night school, some might buy a book, others might buy an audio tape.