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When my iphone 02 contract ran out I simply transferred to 02 pay and go. £10 min top up fee to get the free texts and free internet. Internet works just as good as ever and Ive never gone past the free monthly 500mb. http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/Pay_and_Go

CT clearly just getting anything with Gemma Arterton in it. Had no idea it was the same girl until my daughter pointed it out half way through the film. Looks about 3 stone heavier in this than Prince of Persia.

Get Him to the Greek --- Russell Brand & Jonah Hill Spin off ish from Forgetting Sarah Marshal. Brand plays the same pop star character and if you liked that you'll like this. Lots of gross out and one liners to dull away a couple of hours 5.8/10 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1226229/

The disappearance of Alice Creed Drags a little but still very different, lots of twists and generally very good 7/10 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1379177/

I dont like Osbourne. He appears like a sneaky little man with no humility. Either this or he is just horrifically nervous in fron of camera. However when you hear the main journo's like Boulton, Robinson etc talk about what they see and hear behind the scenes, he is doing very well in the role. I also think Cameron has been very clever with a lot of the big appointments such as IDS sorting out Welfare and bringing in Hutton from Labour to continue his work on sorting out public sector pensions.

I dont think theres a great deal of work out there for people to do. Hasnt been for a lot of years although Im talking about the North East not down South. I had a look few various job sites recently and unless you are qualified in a particular field and have lots of experience you are left with working in a call centre selling electricity. Even the sort of jobs that you would normally turn your nose up at, security guard, needed the relevant NVQ??? in security. Its tough, its going to get tougher and I dont think there are any quick fixes out there.

Some truth in that but I was thinking yesterday how weak the Conservatives are in terms of front bench talent. Wtf is Baroness Warsi doing in govenment for instance, is she only there to tick boxes? I can barely remember a more incompetent performance than hers last night on Question Time. She wouldn't shut up yet hardly uttered a word of substance once. I don't think Labour need to do much at the moment but sit back and let the coalition throw itself against the rocks. I dont particularly like her as she always comes across as so bloody angry but I thought she recovered well on QT after initially taking a good kicking over child benefit. About 20 minutes in she started to fight back and was getting good loud applause, as well as making her case. Charles Clarke came across as pretty reasonable too virtually agreeing with a lot of what the coalition are doing. Shits going to hit the fan on QT in 2 weeks. Brave Tory that appears that night.

Honest as they come and totally commited to eradicating poverty in Britain. He set up the "Centre for social Justice" think tank in 2004 and his work on the issue has been commended by all parties. This is a man on a mission who has no real interest in the workings of governments etc but has (wisely by Cameron) being given the chance to put his last 6 years think tank work into policy. http://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/d....asp?pageRef=44 The changes he is making to the welfare state are totally with the aim of dragging people out of poverty. Very decent bloke and also now a very "dangerous loose cannon". If anyone in the government start to piss him about he will up and go. Already won quite a few battles with Osbourne by all accounts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11498607 Look and learn Osborne. Totally different set of problems to us and their economy has been in deflation for over 20 years. Also, we've already had stimulus billions thrown into the economy, you cant just keep doing it. Finally, a lot of commentators in the US reckon the 500+ billion stimulus they did made very little differnce.

Dont know if you use it but I swear by tripadvisor. Used all the time on my recent jaunt around Europe and all the reccomendations were first class whether they were hotels or restaurants. Everything is rated by the people using them. The page below shows 700 plus restaurants ranked in order of best to worst. You can narrow your selection by food type, price etc. http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurants-g...h_Scotland.html

Bad Lieutenant Suppose whether you like this film depends on how much you like Nicholas Cage. I often find a lot of his acclaimed work slightly off track for me and this falls into that catergory. The blu ray cover screams 10/10......Funniest.....etc etc Lots of decent acting and an interesting tale but the style just spoils it for me. 5/10

The Box. Not really sure how to rate this one. It was a different and interesting tale however just seemed to lose its way towards the end. I guess I'll give it 6 / 10 Would you press the button?

And the answer to my question Monkey?

And do you think it was a step in the righ direction or it should have been left universal? BTW Tomorrows yougov poll claims 83% of the public agree with the child benefit change, 86% agree with the £500 benefit cap and the conservatives are at 43% in the polls. I dont disagree that it was launched poorly.

Since the economy went south three years ago and like a lot of jobs, there is sweet fa to be made taxi'ing.

This is the crux of the debate on here. There are those that simply think this is the nasty evil tory party out to fuck people over. the majority on here Then there are those who think the Tories under Cameron are a pretty decent lot and are really trying to get the country sorted out.you Neither side will convince the other. However anyone who heard Ian Duncan Smiths's speech today cant help but have been moved by his unyielding honesty and desire to sort out the welfare system. Putting aside the cuts, which are unavoidable, I think the only ones who need fear under this government are the benefit system players and those responsible for waste in the public sector.yeah, lets put aside the cuts eh, then everythings rosy. ffs man, its all about the cuts The cuts were going to come whoever was in power. Even Red Ed is saying that he would have simply delayed them for a few years. Can you imagine Labour after 3 years in power and on the run in to a general election suddenly deciding the time was right to take the right action. Ofcourse not, they would have simply fudged and put it off again, all the while dragging the country even further down the shitter. From a political point of view, the only time any party in power could take this action is at the start of their term in office. This at least gives that party the chance to reap the benefit of the action taken. The fact that the "majority" on here are anti tory is meaningless tbf. There are quite a few young uns, who know little of the world, quite a few of the Guardian brigade like Renton and others like NJS, Alex and possible yourself who have and always will hate the Tories. There are quite a few older wiser members on here who are not as entrenched in their views. Patronised by a cabby, oh me oh my So, since you are old, wise and not at all entrenched in your views, you'll admit that Normal Dave lied outright when they said before the election they would not touch child benefit The best PM of your lifetime is a dirty fibber Correct? Im not sure he did say that? I do however remember him saying their would be cuts and that the exact cuts would be worked out when they took over from Labour. Think the Tories were the only honest party about cuts at the election. Ffs sake man, keep up. He's your dreamboat. "David Cameron was forced today to apologise to voters for breaking an election promise with his decision to withdraw child benefit from 1.2 million higher-rate taxpayers. On a day of jitters and policy wobbles in the Conservative high command, the prime minister acknowledged the decision – announced on Monday by the chancellor, George Osborne – had led to a storm of criticism from those claiming that the axing of child benefit had damaged the party's commitment to family values and undermined the universalist base of the welfare state, something he had promised to preserve in the election." http://m.guardian.co.uk/?id=102202&sto...ild-benefit-cut I can see the Guardian are implying it and I'm happy to be corrected, but you said Cameron said he wouldnt cut Child Benefit. I simply dont recall him saying it. Out of interest, do you think its agood step in the right direction or that it should have been left as universal?

The suggestion there to me is that the only people who will lose their jobs are those repsonsible for public sector waste? If that's what you mean it's quite obnoxious tbh. You being one of them, I assume? You, who has admitted on this thread that you were a 'dyed in the wool tory', danced around like a child when the tories 'won' the election, and now thinks Cameron is the best PM in modern history after less than 6 months of office? I find your lack or self awareness utterly bizarre. I know my beliefs and allegiances, I don't hide it. I am aware that I will find it hard to judge Cameron fairly. You, however, seem to really believe you can judge 'Red Ed' fairly (the use of that perjorative tabloid name itself is a giveaway to your political intellect btw). Staggering. P.S. I read the Times occasionally, not the Guardian, which incidentally did not support Labour in any case. Once again you try and cherry pick part sentences to attempt to twist their meaning....Now thats obnoxious The full quote was... "Putting aside the cuts, which are unavoidable, I think the only ones who need fear under this government are the benefit system players and those responsible for waste in the public sector". The bit you chose to chop off clearly puts to one side the people who will lose jobs because of cuts. With regard to your second paragraph of dribble you simply dont get it. I can appreciate good policy whether it comes from Labour, Liberals or Conservative. I can happily get into a debate about policy and discuss the pros and cons. Sometimes someone closer involved with the issue will make good valid points and sway the argument. You however seem unable to do this. You are like Polly Toynbee on steroids. You are constantly on the attack. As I said earlier if Cameron cured cancer you wouldnt say well done, you would whine about what he hadnt done.

This is the crux of the debate on here. There are those that simply think this is the nasty evil tory party out to fuck people over. the majority on here Then there are those who think the Tories under Cameron are a pretty decent lot and are really trying to get the country sorted out.you Neither side will convince the other. However anyone who heard Ian Duncan Smiths's speech today cant help but have been moved by his unyielding honesty and desire to sort out the welfare system. Putting aside the cuts, which are unavoidable, I think the only ones who need fear under this government are the benefit system players and those responsible for waste in the public sector.yeah, lets put aside the cuts eh, then everythings rosy. ffs man, its all about the cuts The cuts were going to come whoever was in power. Even Red Ed is saying that he would have simply delayed them for a few years. Can you imagine Labour after 3 years in power and on the run in to a general election suddenly deciding the time was right to take the right action. Ofcourse not, they would have simply fudged and put it off again, all the while dragging the country even further down the shitter. From a political point of view, the only time any party in power could take this action is at the start of their term in office. This at least gives that party the chance to reap the benefit of the action taken. The fact that the "majority" on here are anti tory is meaningless tbf. There are quite a few young uns, who know little of the world, quite a few of the Guardian brigade like Renton and others like NJS, Alex and possible yourself who have and always will hate the Tories. There are quite a few older wiser members on here who are not as entrenched in their views. Patronised by a cabby, oh me oh my So, since you are old, wise and not at all entrenched in your views, you'll admit that Normal Dave lied outright when they said before the election they would not touch child benefit The best PM of your lifetime is a dirty fibber Correct? Im not sure he did say that? I do however remember him saying their would be cuts and that the exact cuts would be worked out when they took over from Labour. Think the Tories were the only honest party about cuts at the election.

Im generelly very pour at speling so that comant has cheared me well up.

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This is the crux of the debate on here. There are those that simply think this is the nasty evil tory party out to fuck people over. the majority on here Then there are those who think the Tories under Cameron are a pretty decent lot and are really trying to get the country sorted out.you Neither side will convince the other. However anyone who heard Ian Duncan Smiths's speech today cant help but have been moved by his unyielding honesty and desire to sort out the welfare system. Putting aside the cuts, which are unavoidable, I think the only ones who need fear under this government are the benefit system players and those responsible for waste in the public sector.yeah, lets put aside the cuts eh, then everythings rosy. ffs man, its all about the cuts The cuts were going to come whoever was in power. Even Red Ed is saying that he would have simply delayed them for a few years. Can you imagine Labour after 3 years in power and on the run in to a general election suddenly deciding the time was right to take the right action. Ofcourse not, they would have simply fudged and put it off again, all the while dragging the country even further down the shitter. From a political point of view, the only time any party in power could take this action is at the start of their term in office. This at least gives that party the chance to reap the benefit of the action taken. The fact that the "majority" on here are anti tory is meaningless tbf. There are quite a few young uns, who know little of the world, quite a few of the Guardian brigade like Renton and others like NJS, Alex and possible yourself who have and always will hate the Tories. There are quite a few older wiser members on here who are not as entrenched in their views.

This is the crux of the debate on here. There are those that simply think this is the nasty evil tory party out to fuck people over. Then there are those who think the Tories under Cameron are a pretty decent lot and are really trying to get the country sorted out. Neither side will convince the other. However anyone who heard Ian Duncan Smiths's speech today cant help but have been moved by his unyielding honesty and desire to sort out the welfare system. Putting aside the cuts, which are unavoidable, I think the only ones who need fear under this government are the benefit system players and those responsible for waste in the public sector.

No prizes for guessing which fucking rag run this poll.... YouGov as it happens quite serious pollsters and all that The problem a few on here are discovering, like Labour, is that they are totally out of touch with how people are feeling in the real world. Nobody is looking forward to cuts, but the majority no whose shift this went South on and dont believe a word Labour has to say on this matter. Labours credability is shot and will take a long time to recover.

Wrong again Do you break the £44k threshold though? Cant really take anyone srious on this issue who doesnt at least see this as a very good first move. Well off people dont need benefits. What about those with a household income of 80k? Thats why I said "first move". Lets look at the facts. 85% of people currently receiving child benefit wont be affected by this. of the ones who are, there will be some oddities as you describe. These will be miniscule. To make this change problem free you would then have to start means testing every family, filling in forms, more wasted in pen pushing than would probably be saved. I would rather see the 1 billion saving than get all heated up over the few exceptions. You have similar oddities in most current tax systems now. Hopefully this is just the sort of thing that will be tidied up when the single benefit comes in. I can see this being really painful for single-earning familes with several kids tbh, I don't think the 'oddities will be miniscule' either. Easy to applaud it when it doesn't affect you though (assuming you don't declare wages in excess of £44k). This is going to piss off a lot of Conservative voters actually, so in a way I applaud Cameron for being brave. You absolute tit, it only effects people paying higher rate tax!!!!! Yes you have a legal eagle wife and a cushy public sector job so some "poor bint" on plus £45,000 will probably seem hard done by to you Go and tell your little sob story to the majority who are on piss poor wages and see how much sympathy you get. Fucking astounding! Cameron could get up tomorrow and announce he had cured cancer and your response would simply be "What about the blind, he's done fuck all for the blind. You are an absolute tool of the highest order Well done for getting personal again you complete bell end. This is coming from a man who claims he can easily clear 70k driving a private hire cab for anyone who missed that particular claim. If you bothered reading what I said I didn't comment on whether this policy was right or wrong, I commented on the fact that it would really hurt a particular demographic, and these would mainly be Conservative voters. I was being serious when I said it was a brave policy for Cameron to roll out. I actually agree that universal benefits of all kinds need to be reduced or even stopped - including cold weather payments. I just think this should be done more fairly, and you know what, so do a lot of Conservatives and half the right wing press. You commented that someone earning in excess of £45,000 a year would find it really painful to lose child benefit. You are detatched from the real world if this is your idea of real pain. It is that simple.

Wrong again Do you break the £44k threshold though? Cant really take anyone srious on this issue who doesnt at least see this as a very good first move. Well off people dont need benefits. What about those with a household income of 80k? Thats why I said "first move". Lets look at the facts. 85% of people currently receiving child benefit wont be affected by this. of the ones who are, there will be some oddities as you describe. These will be miniscule. To make this change problem free you would then have to start means testing every family, filling in forms, more wasted in pen pushing than would probably be saved. I would rather see the 1 billion saving than get all heated up over the few exceptions. You have similar oddities in most current tax systems now. Hopefully this is just the sort of thing that will be tidied up when the single benefit comes in. I can see this being really painful for single-earning familes with several kids tbh, I don't think the 'oddities will be miniscule' either. Easy to applaud it when it doesn't affect you though (assuming you don't declare wages in excess of £44k). This is going to piss off a lot of Conservative voters actually, so in a way I applaud Cameron for being brave. You absolute tit, it only effects people paying higher rate tax!!!!! Yes you have a legal eagle wife and a cushy public sector job so some "poor bint" on plus £45,000 will probably seem hard done by to you Go and tell your little sob story to the majority who are on piss poor wages and see how much sympathy you get. Fucking astounding! Cameron could get up tomorrow and announce he had cured cancer and your response would simply be "What about the blind, he's done fuck all for the blind. You are an absolute tool of the highest order Chomp chompity chomp. Chomp chomp. If only it was that simple..... He actually believes what he says as his post over the last two years show. Theres lots of people posting on here with kids whether young and old and its a shame you cant discuss some of the topics of the day without everything derailling into the big bad tory thread. He's like the leazes / Skidmark of politics.