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I dont disagree but I think those days have gone. In all partys it is now the social elite pulling the strings.

:security: Who went to Cambridge and sent her son to a £10,000 a year private school. Very working class.

you couldn't get more like the last lot than milliband ( d). He was a creator of Blairism and worked for Blair til 2001 before becoming an mp and holding various government posts. Allthough youngish, he is definitely old skool blairite.

Packed in 3 years ago. Used to suffer the mental "habit" cravings for a while but defintely haven't for at least a year if not longer. Probably used to smoke 30 a day. Put a few stone on though because you tend to replace the "mental habit" with a sweet or packet of nuts / crisps in the pub. It will go tho so don't despair.

Ok so once again it's all talk and no substance from Renton ! Come to think of it, you'd make a great Tory. Fair enough if you can't back your position up. With regard to Cameron the answer is definitely yes, that's why he won a massive hundred and odd seats and is now the pm. Btw, before you come back with your " he shoulda woulda cudda had a bigger majority", yes we all know that and this thread is about Labour not Tory. To any other Labourixts, is there anyone else who you would like to see run who isn't. Don't know why they don't get Red Ken back into the big tent.

Not at all young skywalker...... I enjoy all politics and enjoy politicians from all sides. The bottom line is the four or five currently up for election are a dreary lot. Of that there is no denial. If Milliband (d) is there best hope then they are seriously fucked. Sigh. This is just your opinion CT, not fact. You are 'dyed in the wool' tory (your words), you couldn't help being biased any more than I could with Cameron. And even if you were impartial, your opinion would fly in the face of most commentators. Milliband will win many votes compared to his predecessor. If the recession hits us hard, don't rule out you might have a PM as your MP. Sigh right back at you. It's not about party bias! Do you simply not understand? While being a Newcastle supporter I can recognise Rooney is a good player. While being a Tory I can recognise good politicians who have that "x factor" in other parties. Labour have had many over the years however myself and "many commentators", clearly recognise this bunch are a drab lot. This does not mean they won't win etc, just that they all lack that special appeal. If you think I'm wrong at least add a bit of substance to why you think a particular one has the x factor rather than just telling me I'm wrong!

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Not at all young skywalker...... I enjoy all politics and enjoy politicians from all sides. The bottom line is the four or five currently up for election are a dreary lot. Of that there is no denial. If Milliband (d) is there best hope then they are seriously fucked.

Getting a younger, brighter, more media-savvy leader? I don't think so. Do any of this lot fit that image? I think they would be eaten alive.

Must say the party really seems to be scraping the barrel this time. Heard on the radio that the woman off the show after question time is now running!! Really are a motley lot of non personalities. The mlliband boys just seem like little dull Tories, Balls seems a bit mad, the durnham bloke wants to do old skool labour. Ballsys wife should have ran as she is a tast bit of allright. This could really send labour back into the wilderness for years. Any labourightskys like to share their opinion on the candidates?

Another brilliant day! Kissed the wife goodbye at 8.30am and left for work. Got side tracked and ended up in the allotment til 1.30pm Dashed home for a fresh pair of jeans and White t.shirt so the wife won't suspect any sciving activity when she gets in. Organise the two daughters into laying on a BBQ feast for this evening. Done a few jobs, read a bit toontastic and nearly time to meet the wife back home after a hard days graft!

Optional isn't it? Can't see many charvers volunteering for it. Don't know the full plans but I would have thought they would link it to benefits etc? Nice to see the stupid hips gone as well. Just selling a house at the mo and it's cost a fortune for basically a few hours work.

Is that on the rise? Still lower than when the tories were last in as far as i can see. I'm certain we'll see a massive rise now your boys are back in power and start cutting jobs all over though. Especially round here where things are already the worst anywhere in the country... I don't necessarily think the slight changes in unemployment are that important. It's more the learned behaviour from their family enviroment. And it's not just the numbers , it's the general lack of moral fibre a lot of them have. If the Tories follow through with this national service thing I think that would be a great start.

No trips to the Hill? Seriously most people I pick up, even if pissed, seem very nice..... Even on the hill!

There goes 90% of your market. Au Contraire, They don't need a taxi from the supermarket, they just take the trolley. They don't need a taxi to the pub, they just sit in their gardens drinking cider. Luckily I can count the scum bags I've taxied in 7 years on one hand.

I always wanted teleporting to come true but I guess we'd all just be really fat fuckers.

I'd reverse the rise of the underclass. The generations of scum that take everything and give nothing, that have no morals, no sense of decency no care for their fellow man.

Hopefully with Jack on his deathbed being ridden hard by Chloe.

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A Geordie pulled this rather large lass from wigan last night and took her back to his , he pulled down his pants , she said WOW thats a gut "un" , bemused he asks "what the fook is a gutt "un" she says "it means its a big one . Then she pulled her knickers down and he said "Wow that a canny "un" bemused the wigan lass says "whats a canny "un" he says "ITS A FOOKING BIG VALLEY THAT COWBOYS RIDE THROUGH

Bit of a cliche but you probably need to think what you really want to do first before you can enable this to happen. Don't panic or feel depressed, but whatever you do don't let it slip either, otherwise your fears will be well founded. Excellent advice. Theres nothing worse than being stuck in a job you dislike with no clear escape route. In my early 20's I sold 3pce suites and used to absolutely detest the job but with a small family, mortgage and recession (Thanks Maggie) I had no choice but keep on at it and only escaped by luck really. Depending what line your in PR can be a really tough job as well. The clients usually want the world for pennies and theres only so many times a contact in the media will run with your newspaper filler. Any chance you could give me a bit more info about your time and experiences in PR? I don't want to write the entire comms/marketing thing off on the basis of a few glum months but I have kind of went into it blind on the basis of having a related degree and I haven't had the chance to chat to someone properly about it as a career. I'd be hugely grateful if you could drop me a PM or something. Think you've got some better feedback from Donaldstott and Sammynb. My main experience is being the client doing all the nasty shit Donald refers too. I paid £35,000 a year and expected hundreds of local insertions as well as the main dailys and a few run outs in the business section of the Times. If you know what a newspaper ad costs then you know this was dam good value or money. I genuinely believe it is a very tough game, particularly in this climate and whether its right for you depends on so many things. It also depends on whether your actually any good at it! I always found the best PR people were female. They seem to have a hidden gene that is ideal for making that brain numbing small talk that opens doors and gets articles printed. I always think that its a twat about life that your supposed to make your mind up about what you want to spend the rest of your life doing at 18. How the fuck do you know whats going to make you happy at 18. For those who do know, good on yer. At 16 I wanted to be an archeologist, at 18 a banker and then suddenly I found out i'd fucked up (not given a shit about ) gse's and was suddenly working as an apprentice butcher. I did enjoy, and was good, at marketing but had a boss who'd made every living day hell. Now at 44 I drive a taxi during hours to suit me and have more free time than I've ever had. Part of me sometimes wishes to be back in the cut and thrust of business, but the bigger part is very happy with the life I have. I would urge anyone to do what makes them happy. Avoid debt at all costs as this will give you a lot more freedom in what you have to accept a long this lovely road of life. Yes, this is the 4 Kronneburgs post, but true none the less.

Bought / sold over 300 items on ebay and must say I love it. Bought everything from an Asparagus plant to a Jag (never go on ebay when pissed) As discussed on the Veg Thread, you can usually find most high street items on ebay considerably cheaper. Where I find it really good is for items that are to big to post. People mark these as pick up only and you can get some really good bargains. These items could be anything from a 99p wheelbarrow to a 99p office desk and leather swivel chair.

Bit of a cliche but you probably need to think what you really want to do first before you can enable this to happen. Don't panic or feel depressed, but whatever you do don't let it slip either, otherwise your fears will be well founded. Excellent advice. Theres nothing worse than being stuck in a job you dislike with no clear escape route. In my early 20's I sold 3pce suites and used to absolutely detest the job but with a small family, mortgage and recession (Thanks Maggie) I had no choice but keep on at it and only escaped by luck really. Depending what line your in PR can be a really tough job as well. The clients usually want the world for pennies and theres only so many times a contact in the media will run with your newspaper filler.

What do you do?