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Your wrong about the BMA. Suggest you actually read what they are saying about most of the reforms. Wrong again about my knowledge of PCT's The fact a Labour government introduced walk in centres is irrelevant, unlike you there are lots of things Labour did that I appreciate not being so glimmered. I had forgotten how childish you can be

While gutted about losing him I'm not as down as some. We have played and did again yesterday, very well without him. Would prefer him in the team but still think we'll do ok. Think the big problem is Routledge who seems like a little boy lost.

Love it when posters aren't self aware of the huge irony of their comments. Should have known who would have been first in. Bet you havent watched it You're calling him the [best prime minister of your life time and yet he has only been in power 6 months. None of the cut backs has even taken effect yet, how about waiting to see what the effects of these will be, particularly in areas like the North East? Will you still be saying he's the best prime minister ever when Newcastle has reverted back into a post-industrial wasteland as the South no doubt prospers? Actually yes, no doubt you will. Talking about the man himself. But again you havent watched it By the way, the BMA on Friday expressed major concerns that the NHS reforms put the enitre stability of the organisation at risk, as well as increasing the involvement of private for profit suppliers, and fundamentally damaging the GP-patient relationship. Many GPs are only waking up to the cold reality of it now, but it should have been obvious to anyone reading the white paper. Its probably escaped your notice but every department is shouting about what "might" happen because they all want to keep the same scandalous budgets that were available during Browns spend spend spend years. The truth is CT we are in for some scary times, and to proclaim Cameron a success on any level at this stage says more about your blatent manlove for him than any bias against him on here. He's already behind Ed milliband in the opinion polls, hardly a ringing endorsement, is it? Didnt say he'd been a success! He's going to have a very tough time because of the shit he inherited, as everyone knows, apart from a few lefties. Ed Milliband is a stop gap, surely you are bright enough to see that. I suggest you watch the interview the post was about, but I guess you wont and will keep on with the biassed drivel. So, basically you believe Cameron is the best prime minister during your lifetime based on one interview with Andrew Marr? Who said bromance was dead..... Btw, the NHS reforms I am talking about are nothing to do with the NHS budget so I don't know what you're on about there. Tell you what, I'll watch the Andrew Marr interview if you read the NHS white paper and tell me what you think of it, deal? You can download it here. Ok, so I got 7 pages in to the 61 page document and all seems great why dont you copy and paste the bit that offends you? The foreward reads.... All sounds fucking rosy in the garden to me What would be the point of me copying and pasting, and then bolding bits, like you have done? You do realise this is a government document and is therefore framed in the most positive way possible, don't you? I'm fundamentally against the reforms because I don't believe GPs are the best people to control the healthcare budget, simple as that. Most GPs want to practice medicine, not balance budgets, and by and large they're simply not qualified to do it. Furthermore, I think there is a dangerous possibility it will jeopardise the GP-patient relationship, because the GP will directly be making financial choices for the patient, rather than clinical ones. Of course, in reality GPs will have to employ managers to balance the books for them. As there will be more than three times as much consortia as PCTs there are presently, this will inevitably increase beaureaucracy, not decrease it. It will also possibly lead to postcode lottery, which Labour spent years trying to abolish. On the other hand, if people can choose GPs regardless of the locality they live in, it will be absolutely disastrous for many samller, rural practices or practices that are underperforming and need help (rather than being made subject to market forces). Another issue is the move towards 'value' based prescribing. What's important here is to recognise that patients are emphatically not the best people to choose their treatment. Expect millions more pounds to pissed up the wall treating the worried well with homeopathy and other batshit complementary therapies as a result. Then there's the increased role of competition within the NHS which if not controlled may well be privatisation through the back door - this undoubtedly suits the tory ethos after all. Finally, working in the NHS I think I can speak for nearly everyone when I say that the last thing anyone wants is another massive reorganisation for political reasons, especially one that is so potentially destabilising as this. The NHS is not broken as has been suggested, for the most part it is well run and has massive public satisfaction as a result. There's been almost no pilots for these reforms and the whole thing is happening at an alarming rate. And this is from a government that surely has little mandate for such huge changes, particularly since these reforms were not even mentioned in either the tories of Lib Dems manifestos? Care to answer my points without cut and pasting then CT, or are you still feeling all dweamy about Cameron? First of all the BMA seem quite happy with a lot of the proposals in the white paper and agree that GP's will make a better job of localised budgets / patient care. Anyone who has any dealings with PCT's cant help but see the waste these bodys generate. Hundreds of pen pushers each building their own little empire and forever clogging up the day to day work of frontline health workers with pointless meetings, training etc etc. I also think patients being able to choose their local practise will help raise standards for the majority. When ever I need to go to the docs I always go to the local walk in centre which is further away but far more customer friendly and quicker. When you also here some of the talk about how far we are behind a lot of countries with regard to cancer / stroke / respiratory disease care then its clear that improvements are needed.

Cancer screening programmes are to get extra funding in an effort to save thousands of lives, David Cameron has announced

Love it when posters aren't self aware of the huge irony of their comments. Should have known who would have been first in. Bet you havent watched it You're calling him the [best prime minister of your life time and yet he has only been in power 6 months. None of the cut backs has even taken effect yet, how about waiting to see what the effects of these will be, particularly in areas like the North East? Will you still be saying he's the best prime minister ever when Newcastle has reverted back into a post-industrial wasteland as the South no doubt prospers? Actually yes, no doubt you will. Talking about the man himself. But again you havent watched it By the way, the BMA on Friday expressed major concerns that the NHS reforms put the enitre stability of the organisation at risk, as well as increasing the involvement of private for profit suppliers, and fundamentally damaging the GP-patient relationship. Many GPs are only waking up to the cold reality of it now, but it should have been obvious to anyone reading the white paper. Its probably escaped your notice but every department is shouting about what "might" happen because they all want to keep the same scandalous budgets that were available during Browns spend spend spend years. The truth is CT we are in for some scary times, and to proclaim Cameron a success on any level at this stage says more about your blatent manlove for him than any bias against him on here. He's already behind Ed milliband in the opinion polls, hardly a ringing endorsement, is it? Didnt say he'd been a success! He's going to have a very tough time because of the shit he inherited, as everyone knows, apart from a few lefties. Ed Milliband is a stop gap, surely you are bright enough to see that. I suggest you watch the interview the post was about, but I guess you wont and will keep on with the biassed drivel. So, basically you believe Cameron is the best prime minister during your lifetime based on one interview with Andrew Marr? Who said bromance was dead..... Btw, the NHS reforms I am talking about are nothing to do with the NHS budget so I don't know what you're on about there. Tell you what, I'll watch the Andrew Marr interview if you read the NHS white paper and tell me what you think of it, deal? You can download it here. Ok, so I got 7 pages in to the 61 page document and all seems great why dont you copy and paste the bit that offends you? The foreward reads.... All sounds fucking rosy in the garden to me

Home made tomato soup. 3lb Toms 1 onion 1 garlic clove 3 x cups veg stock 1 x potato tomato puree Salt and pepper Canny, but much easier and tastier opening a tin of Heinz

Love it when posters aren't self aware of the huge irony of their comments. Should have known who would have been first in. Bet you havent watched it You're calling him the best prime minister of your life time and yet he has only been in power 6 months. None of the cut backs has even taken effect yet, how about waiting to see what the effects of these will be, particularly in areas like the North East? Will you still be saying he's the best prime minister ever when Newcastle has reverted back into a post-industrial wasteland as the South no doubt prospers? Actually yes, no doubt you will. Talking about the man himself. But again you havent watched it By the way, the BMA on Friday expressed major concerns that the NHS reforms put the enitre stability of the organisation at risk, as well as increasing the involvement of private for profit suppliers, and fundamentally damaging the GP-patient relationship. Many GPs are only waking up to the cold reality of it now, but it should have been obvious to anyone reading the white paper. Its probably escaped your notice but every department is shouting about what "might" happen because they all want to keep the same scandalous budgets that were available during Browns spend spend spend years. The truth is CT we are in for some scary times, and to proclaim Cameron a success on any level at this stage says more about your blatent manlove for him than any bias against him on here. He's already behind Ed milliband in the opinion polls, hardly a ringing endorsement, is it? Didnt say he'd been a success! He's going to have a very tough time because of the shit he inherited, as everyone knows, apart from a few lefties. Ed Milliband is a stop gap, surely you are bright enough to see that. I suggest you watch the interview the post was about, but I guess you wont and will keep on with the biassed drivel.

The quality was there today, it was the decisions that went against us. Our first 11 is more than able to stay up. the problem is if we are hit with too many key injuries. Havent read the thread as just arrived in from the pub and made home made tomato soup (a story for another thread). We wuz robbed sums it up for me. Once again a decent display against a top team and we should have come away with a point at least.

Watched Andrew Marr interviewing the PM this morning. No it will fall on deaf ears with most biassed on here but he really does strike me as the best prime minister during my lifetime. He comes across as honest, caring, genuine and dedicated to sorting the country out. When you here him talk about how the coalition is forcing all plans to be really well argued around the cabinet table it does give you a sense of proper policy being formed. Some of the changes (that have being dodged by all parties for too long) such as welfare and the armed forces could really make a big difference to this country in years to come. Obviously he would rather be leader under more prosperous times, but his desire (along with Cleggs) to make a real difference is very refreshing. Its on I Player here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/tv

Nice pic but can just imagine the bairn saying "for fucks sake dad we've been here over an hour already just PRESS THE FUCKIN BUTTON"

My mate took his to an asian chap in the metrocentre who replaced the screen with a big thick lump of glass, so ask to see what they're using before you let them do it. our lass took my boss watch to one of these types as the catch was loose and the tucker replaced the catch with one with adidas written on.

Got to be one of the funniest on here for a long time

Just.... Why?

Lying fuckers.... I bet you all opted to stop in, X Factor on, hairbrush in hand

Expecting another high scoring win

This is what I'll most likely be watching on Saturday night. Had a quick sail down the usual estuarys and couldn't see it anywhere.

Prince of Persia 6/10 A good old romp and that bird is scrumptious.

Best Christmas I had was last year when I forgot to put anti freeze in the taxi! Froze up about a week beforehand and didnt thaw out til new year We have one of those Christmas streets where everyone chucks some lights up and makes the whole place very Christmassy (Gemmil translate - Tacky). Christmas eve we always go for an Italian down by the sea and wind the kids up that thats Santa in the dark night sky and if we dont hurry up we might miss him (think they'd no better in their 20's). Get up early to open presents off Santa, usually visit the old dear and then back home for a fabulous dinner. Afternoon sees us giving out presents to each other off each other and then a good film, drink etc etc

Agree with this. Think apart from a few old radicals on either side, most have moved on from this argument. Water under the bridge. Many are still boycotting games though. Like yourself. Nope, moved on and get to the odd one now and then, but wouldnt get another season ticket.

Agree with this. Think apart from a few old radicals on either side, most have moved on from this argument. Water under the bridge. Wrong again. I'm neither old nor radical. I agree with Ewerk that the blame lies " somewhere in the middle". I still despise Ashley and what he's doing to our club. Thats fair enough, but how many times do you want to go over the same old ground with the same old people and arrive at the same old stalemate? Each to their own I suppose.

Agree with this. Think apart from a few old radicals on either side, most have moved on from this argument. Water under the bridge.

Its a cruel job. One minute your hob nobbin it all over the world and dining with the president of the USA, the next your back to South Shields and dealing with Mrs Cannybottoms leaking council taps.

Should be in the belta minge thread tbh

edit: May have got the wrong idea about this thread