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So where in the Middle East did you go, Leazes?
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Well, then the FA are in breach of FIFA rules.... They were insured though, that's the reason they've been paying half his wages.
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Great news Dyer can go back up front with Martins and we don't have to suffer with a Butt/Parker midfield pairing anymore.
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He posted in the general chat forum on there telling everyone the board might be invaded by "the Toonastic lot" I don't think he's realised that his post is the only one that's been made on his board in the last 3 days.
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What about the 5 years before Souness ? Don't they count ? Why did it take the club so long to attract Bobby Robson as a manager of his home town club ? As other clubs have appointed Roeder, and Souness, and in fact the new Icelandic people have appointed Curbishley and are rumoured to want Souness, thanks for admitting that there are plenty of clueless potential board replacements out there. And we haven't even mentioned Mandaric, Romanov, Al Fayed, Ridsdale, Bates, Murray, along with chairman of unambitious clubs like Everton, man City, Wolves, Southampton, Charlton.....to name some. Now - who, having eliminated this group of people, would you say is guaranteed to be better, because if you can't do it, why bother harping on about it all the time ? Like a copy and paste job. So you want to congratulate Shepherd for showing ambition by spending money, yet you want to slag the West Ham board off for doing the same thing! You couldn't make it up. As for the 5 years before Souness, we've finished 13th, 13th, 11th, 11th, 4th, 3rd, 5th, 14th, 7th, (Currently 11th) under Shepherd, that's more bottom half finishes than top half in the last decade, as well as getting the club £80 million in debt. What a great job Shepherd as done.
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And the Man Utd fans are singing "cheer up Alan Shearer" Obsessed tbh.
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I'm not denying we were unlucky with Dalglish (who was appointed by Sir John) he was a top manager but it didn't work out, as I've said there are no guarantees in football, however when you sack the best manager this club has had in the last 10 years and replace him with Souness, then replace him with a man who's led his previous 3 clubs into relegation places then you're either a fucking idiot or absolutely clueless about football.
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Lucky for Brock they left Ronaldo, Rooney and Scholes on the bench.
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Delete this, Meenzer's to quick for me.
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Reading 3-0 down after 5 minutes!
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Yes. KK bandwagon jumpers bore me ....... Especially when they don't admit it. Your constant reference to this bores me. We're not all as old as you. I'm 30 now - which is pretty old compared to many of the posters on here. When KK joined as manager I was about 15. I guess this makes me a KK bandwagon jumper. I went to my first match when I was 8, but I wasn't a regular go-er as money was tight in our house. People a few years younger than me will have been coming with their parents/older siblings during this time. So much of our experience of Newcastle stems from the KK era. Think about it this way, some of the posters on here were still in nappies when KK joined! By your logic, in 5/6 years time we'll need to start calling people SBR bandwagon jumpers after he rescued the club from it's potential demise. The fact that they were only just old enough then is irrelevant. Well done, you've supported the club for longer than many of us have been alive. Whilst that is an achievement which deserves some recognition (especially given our history) it does not give you the excuse to become bitter or resentful towards others because of it. You have the wrong end of the stick completely. I have said on numerous occasions that I realise a vast number of people are younger than I am. That is obvious, and plenty of the younger lads - and girls - are committed and massive supporters of the club, like anyone else of any age. KK bandwagon jumpers are those of the 30,000 people - I won't call them "fans" - who were not interested in the club for decades, then jumped on the bandwagon when they thought the club was going to win things, and dare I say it, qualify for europe regularly which is now taken for granted, but now deny they were not interested in the club and say they have always been "fans", when they have not. As a slight deviation from that, I myself would always want to know what people think of the club if they were supporters of the club before I was old enough to support them myself, or before I was born. This is what I have said to Noelie, but the idiot has made it quite clear that he has no such knowledge despite saying that he has. If people don't want to know about the clubs history, then OK but I am not pointing out the fact that many many potential directors or board members out there could be worse than what we have for nothing. Only someone with their head in the clouds could say this is not possible, because it is. The fact that we have had such directors in the past should also tell you that Newcastle United are not themselves immune to this. OUr current directors have done very well for this club since they took over. We were in fact, where Leeds were now, when they did. Going into the 3rd division, bust, and a share issue which could not even raise 2.5m quid, such was the level of interest among all the "clubs loyal supporters who have always supported the club". This figure includes businesses in the city, who also shunned the club when they had the opportunity. This was the level of apathy, which built up over a period of over 30 years of promises, falls, selling our best players, prolonged periods in the old 2nd division, and letting the stadium and facilities go to complete ratshit. The whole of football was different before Sky became involved though wasn't it? Lack of investment, shit grounds, low crowds, hooliganism, sexism, and racism (I can see you would have been in your element) were rife in the 70s and 80s, and affected all clubs. And yes, for the majority of that time Newcastle were even shitter than they are now, yet despite this we still got some of the best crowds through the majority of that period. You can't put all the transformation of NUFC down to Shepherd and the Halls without recognising the sport has fundamentally changed, and we were fortunate enough to have a chairman at the right time (John Hall) and an inspirational manager (Keegan) that tapped into the phenomenal support of this one club city. But since they left respectively, the story has been one of gradual decline and accumulating debts. For the last time Leazes, no one is saying that a change in board would automatically make things better or that that there is no possibility it would make things worse (if they are then find that link please). Most are well aware now that no-one will touch us with a shitty stick anyway due to our colossal debts. But speaking for myself, I would say I am pissed off with the consistently poor decisions Shepherd and the board have made over the last ten years, which has led to considerable underachievement and disappointment over on the pitch. Now before you spout your 5th best crap I am taking into account the level of support we had garnered under and Hall Keegan, and not counting what they achieved between them under your abritrary measure (i.e. I am talking about the period of Shepherd's chairmanship). Despite now 3 years of shit football we have still managed to get the crowds in (these KK bandwagon jumpers you refer to) which is pretty surprising all things considered. And despite that, the decline continues, with no indication it will get any better. In all honesty, with the exception of a couple of years under Robson (a fortunate rather than inspired appointment), the last decade has not been good and we remain trophyless, something even Boro have rectified. And again, before you start, we all know things were worse 20 years ago, but is our performance acceptable given our support, given the potential we had when Shepherd took over as chairman? You, who are well and truly a dinosaur living in the past, appear to think so; I, and many others disagree. It's as simple as that. Sir John Hall handed the club over to Shepherd in a better condition than it had been in for decades, we were second in the league, had an excellent team, financially stable and we hadn't long broke the World transfer record to bring Alan Shearer to the club. Where are we now? We have a mid table team at best, paper thin squad and we will be lucky if we qualify for the Intertoto next season let alone Europe, not to mention we're up to our eyes in debt with the club running at a loss. We will never reach the heights we did with Sir John under the fat man, nowhere near. You mean under Keegan ? [not chosen by Sir John, but by Hall Jnr, Shepherd and Fletcher, who overruled Sir John and forced him to accept the change of manager ] Freddie Fletcher instigated Keegan becoming manager after a conversation with him months earlier, he put it to Hall Jr and Shepherd (the tea boy at the time iirc) and they approached Sir John from there. However I'm talking about since Sir John stepped down as chairman, how has Freddie Shepherd taken the club forward since he took charge a decade ago? A new training ground and an expansion to a stadium that he'll be lucky to fill at the rate he's going, on the pitch we've gone backwards a hell of a lot.
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Yes. KK bandwagon jumpers bore me ....... Especially when they don't admit it. Your constant reference to this bores me. We're not all as old as you. I'm 30 now - which is pretty old compared to many of the posters on here. When KK joined as manager I was about 15. I guess this makes me a KK bandwagon jumper. I went to my first match when I was 8, but I wasn't a regular go-er as money was tight in our house. People a few years younger than me will have been coming with their parents/older siblings during this time. So much of our experience of Newcastle stems from the KK era. Think about it this way, some of the posters on here were still in nappies when KK joined! By your logic, in 5/6 years time we'll need to start calling people SBR bandwagon jumpers after he rescued the club from it's potential demise. The fact that they were only just old enough then is irrelevant. Well done, you've supported the club for longer than many of us have been alive. Whilst that is an achievement which deserves some recognition (especially given our history) it does not give you the excuse to become bitter or resentful towards others because of it. You have the wrong end of the stick completely. I have said on numerous occasions that I realise a vast number of people are younger than I am. That is obvious, and plenty of the younger lads - and girls - are committed and massive supporters of the club, like anyone else of any age. KK bandwagon jumpers are those of the 30,000 people - I won't call them "fans" - who were not interested in the club for decades, then jumped on the bandwagon when they thought the club was going to win things, and dare I say it, qualify for europe regularly which is now taken for granted, but now deny they were not interested in the club and say they have always been "fans", when they have not. As a slight deviation from that, I myself would always want to know what people think of the club if they were supporters of the club before I was old enough to support them myself, or before I was born. This is what I have said to Noelie, but the idiot has made it quite clear that he has no such knowledge despite saying that he has. If people don't want to know about the clubs history, then OK but I am not pointing out the fact that many many potential directors or board members out there could be worse than what we have for nothing. Only someone with their head in the clouds could say this is not possible, because it is. The fact that we have had such directors in the past should also tell you that Newcastle United are not themselves immune to this. OUr current directors have done very well for this club since they took over. We were in fact, where Leeds were now, when they did. Going into the 3rd division, bust, and a share issue which could not even raise 2.5m quid, such was the level of interest among all the "clubs loyal supporters who have always supported the club". This figure includes businesses in the city, who also shunned the club when they had the opportunity. This was the level of apathy, which built up over a period of over 30 years of promises, falls, selling our best players, prolonged periods in the old 2nd division, and letting the stadium and facilities go to complete ratshit. The whole of football was different before Sky became involved though wasn't it? Lack of investment, shit grounds, low crowds, hooliganism, sexism, and racism (I can see you would have been in your element) were rife in the 70s and 80s, and affected all clubs. And yes, for the majority of that time Newcastle were even shitter than they are now, yet despite this we still got some of the best crowds through the majority of that period. You can't put all the transformation of NUFC down to Shepherd and the Halls without recognising the sport has fundamentally changed, and we were fortunate enough to have a chairman at the right time (John Hall) and an inspirational manager (Keegan) that tapped into the phenomenal support of this one club city. But since they left respectively, the story has been one of gradual decline and accumulating debts. For the last time Leazes, no one is saying that a change in board would automatically make things better or that that there is no possibility it would make things worse (if they are then find that link please). Most are well aware now that no-one will touch us with a shitty stick anyway due to our colossal debts. But speaking for myself, I would say I am pissed off with the consistently poor decisions Shepherd and the board have made over the last ten years, which has led to considerable underachievement and disappointment over on the pitch. Now before you spout your 5th best crap I am taking into account the level of support we had garnered under and Hall Keegan, and not counting what they achieved between them under your abritrary measure (i.e. I am talking about the period of Shepherd's chairmanship). Despite now 3 years of shit football we have still managed to get the crowds in (these KK bandwagon jumpers you refer to) which is pretty surprising all things considered. And despite that, the decline continues, with no indication it will get any better. In all honesty, with the exception of a couple of years under Robson (a fortunate rather than inspired appointment), the last decade has not been good and we remain trophyless, something even Boro have rectified. And again, before you start, we all know things were worse 20 years ago, but is our performance acceptable given our support, given the potential we had when Shepherd took over as chairman? You, who are well and truly a dinosaur living in the past, appear to think so; I, and many others disagree. It's as simple as that. Sir John Hall handed the club over to Shepherd in a better condition than it had been in for decades, we were second in the league, had an excellent team, financially stable and we hadn't long broke the World transfer record to bring Alan Shearer to the club. Where are we now? We have a mid table team at best, paper thin squad and we will be lucky if we qualify for the Intertoto next season let alone Europe, not to mention we're up to our eyes in debt with the club running at a loss. We will never reach the heights we did with Sir John under the fat man, nowhere near.
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bigoted ? LOL Shame that you think I know fcuk all, but when I ask YOU something about the club, YOU know fuck all and don't reply. Standard reply tbh well, I am waiting for a clever dickhead like you to correct me ???? If you can........... Surprise surprise.........clever clogs can't reply ....... reply to what fuckwit. And I thinbk pud said it best when he said. If you win an argument on the internet you're still a loser. And you win loads. In that small head of yours. You are bigotted by the way. Your vitriol against Muslims has proved that. whatever. You are either right or wrong. And you have no idea of how well this current board has moved the club forward, because you are a Keegan bandwagon jumper. Fuckwit. Shame you can't let people answer their own questions .... I take it you think Muslim vitroil towards Britain and our way of life is OK ? Until someone near you is a victim of a terrorist act though, then you will change your tune. Fuckwit. Not all muslims are like that. Wanker that you are. And I have witnessed many terrorist attacks. by christians on christians. I think you are a fuck monkey of the highest order. Show me a link where I say all muslims are like that, fuck monkey ? Difficult to believe you have witnessed anything to be honest or anything you say at all, when it is clearly can't even read properly. Nor do you have any idea of the club and the state it was in, that you say you supported pre-1992. You should go to the Middle East by the way, wanker, then you would see who the real intolerant racists are. I served in Northern ireland and the first gulf war cocksucker. I am surprised you are so tolerant of the wankers then, in fact, that goes for all terrorists. My FAther in Law is Irish, from Belfast, and he hates the IRA and all other similar scumbags. I also fail to see how you don't feel the same, having just read what you have posted. Learn to quote you fucking retard.
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Dyer Back For Boro Clash KIERON Dyer will be fit to face Middlesbrough in Saturday's Tyne-Tees derby after missing the trip to Wigan. The 28-year-old sat out of the 1-0 defeat at the JJB Stadium on Sunday after picking up the flu virus towards the end of last week. But Dyer has now returned to training and boss Glenn Roeder is confident his five-goal midfielder will be fine ahead of this weekend's clash with the Teesiders. The Magpies manager told nufc.co.uk: "Kieron had the flu and missed the Wigan game because of that. "He is now back training and will be fit to face Boro on Saturday. "Kieron must be a horrible player to come up against, he possesses electric pace and is a huge asset, if he is running at you and knocks it by then you are history."
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How can anyone think the new West Ham board is shit when they've shown so much ambition in January? I bet all of the other 91 clubs who spent less than them in January, especially the big city clubs like Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Newcastle, Everton etc wish their chairman showed as much ambition last month, the fact that large amounts of money has been squandered on players who have flopped simply can't be blamed on the board. You can blame them for appointing Curbishley, there is no doubt about that, but a good board backs their appointments, this is a principle that must apply to any club who wish to be successful. Now the old West Ham board was a shit board, a right bunch of fuck monkeys with a double wanker for a chairman, they didn't have any ambition and you never heard of them making £18 million bids for England Internationals like the current board did last month, people are quick to forget how poor the club was when they sold local lads Ferdinand, Lampard, Defoe and Joe Cole, a board with ambition wouldn't have sold locally born England players and the players themselves wouldn't want to go. Some of those young, whippersnapper West Ham fans don't even know how good they've got it.
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All inclusive to Turkey tbh
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I agree with you 100%, Greg.
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So why can't it be blamed on the Newcastle board but can be blamed on the West Ham board, Leazes?
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West Ham have done exactly the same as we did in the summer of 2005, they've thrown as much money as they can at the problem and hope it fixes itself.
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Someone knocked Wayne Bridge out!
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Shevchenko off the bar!
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DROGBAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
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and they are above Bolton in the league, because Bolton don't have one ???? Your one mixed up kiddah mate, talking bollocks as well. I take it that you think every club with a DOF would therefore be successful ? If not, then what exactly are you saying ? Please explain why Fulham sacked Ray Wilkins as manager when they had a DOF [Keegan - who chose him] as you think this is a foolproof, automatic route to success ? While you are at it, please tell us who your guaranteed success as a DOF at NUFC would be ? Bolton haven't got one to my knowledge although they have got a fantastic scouting network, perhaps they should get one to push the club on further. Where have I said every club with a DOF would automatically be successful? Link? or have you made it up? Ray Wilkins was given the DOF job by Keegan as it was a job for the boys, he has no knowledge of scouting or of running a successful team behind the scenes unless you have a link to somewhere that says he has? Poor planning from Keegan. I can't say who would be a guaranteed success as DOF at Newcastle but that isn't my job to find one, Sir John Hall has spoken about getting one for the club which means it's at least being discussed at board level. Like I said it's worked well for Spurs, they've continually finished above us since they've had one and he's built them a better squad than us without having to put the club into debt. great planning from the Spurs board. So you can't say that appointing a DOF will definitely lead to success or not ? Well duh, what a stupid thing to say. I couldn't guarantee if Wenger came here he'd be better than Roeder but it's at least a positive step in the right direction.