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Maritimo v Newcastle United --- 20/09/2012
NJS replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
Should beat them and then wait outside to chin the fuckers. I've learned to always expect refs as bad as this so nothings changed since we last played on that score. -
Yeah - it seems quite fair to me as painting bastards on both sides.
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One thing that puzzles me is how you can "offend" Islam - what can you say beyond stating that the founder consummated a marriage with a 9 year old and killed and enslaved millions that could be so bad? I agree with Chez about its less dodgy now than it was during the cold war - I'd recommend "The power of nightmares" - a documentary from a few years ago that explains how those in charge need a bogeyman to keep us in line.
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I remember forcing myself to sit throught the highlights of the Hereford game when they showed if for the 25th anniversary I think - SuperMac had been giving it his usual Billy BigBollocks in the run-up to it and Green made a hatful of chances for him which on another day would have consigned the game to a meaningless footnote in the record books. Not sure about the good team though - there may have been an entertainment factor but finishing 15th 3 years in a row is pretty damning in hindsight.
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I think that was meant that they were in for him when we signed him rather than this summer.
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I'd play Anita at RB in the league and in midfield in the cups to get him used to the team. I'd definitely play Perch or Bigi ahead of him until Tiote is fit.
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Another thing - the commentator can take his "another piece of justice for Meresyside this week" and FUCK RIGHT OFF.
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Shit refereeing/linesmaning - Obvious "goal" and if he was going to call play back for Pienaar then he should have given a red - but the idiot obviously had no sense of where the ball was and how it was developing. I'd have had Neville and Felliani off as well. Happy with a point all in all.
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Nice bottle out by the ref on Neville.
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Yes the Dutch fuckers who claimed he was so creative can fuck right off (so far).
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Three players who aren't premier league class - two of whom are in positions they failed to strengthen for the sake of pennies.
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He was just before my time and I can remember the sense of us having been robbed by fate with an injury which I think nowadays would be routinely fixed.
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Sadly all governments, even those who come to power with good intentions, fall foul of the real establishment in this country - the aristocracy, the judiciary, the forces and the senior civil service. To some extent it doesn't matter who's in power as those bodies always get their own way and get away with murder. What this country's history lacks is a proper revolution.
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I've never seen anyone that comes close to Given at his best - there were long spells when I was genuinely surprised if he was beaten. I never understood why Bobby seemed to rate Harper as someone who could keep shay out as he did for spells here and there - no comparison imo. I understood why he left but I admit to being wryly amused at how it turned out for him at Man City.
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There was a different copper in charge though and they supposedly streamed the arrivals better - I think I read one "ordinary" copper's statement which was changed where he questioned why the previousl bloke had been replaced by someone who'd never been in charge of such a big game before.
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Supposedly traffic streams for the direction of arrival/departure iirc.
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Its a bad argument to use imo because even if it was true that Liverpool have a bigger fanbase so demand would be higher, it implies that people would turn up ticketless beacuse of that.
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Or standing along the half way line because even though people were dying, preventing any bother with the Forest fans was their number one priority.
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Funnily enough I suspect that the reason Thatcher has got off quite lightly is that I don't think they have access to cabinet minutes - maybe we'll have to wait for them to be released under the 30 year rule for that.
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One of my main complaints about New Labour was that they promised a full public enquiry while in opposition but settled for asking a judge to take another look who because he didn't have the acess of this panel, could do nothing but confirm Taylor which was fair enough as far as it went but not far enough. Straw has a nerve saying the police had been granted an air of impunity by Thatcher when I thought he took the new report (the one he commissioned) far too easily for fear of upsetting the police imo.
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When you patent rounded edges somenthings wrong somewhere.
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In the context of the times, I would never call them or any other fans angels. I completely accept that games in that era were prone to "boisterous" behaviour even when not full blown bother but I think it perpetuates the non-closure side of things if people keep picking niblets which are undoubtedly contributory factors and inflating them too much. The overriding cause was failure on the part of several authorities - I think the subsequent lies and cover-up in some ways prove that more than the actual eye-witness evidence. I think everyone knows what I think of Scousers but that doesn't detract from a more fundamental camaraderie which HIllsborough engenders in anyone who watched football pre-allseaters - the overwhelming acceptance that it could have been us or anyone else. I think the attitude of "yeah but Scousers were worse" is going a bit too far even in Football grudgery which I'm a fan of in general.
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Given the size of the paddock, how many ticketless fans do you think would have been required to push the line from discomfort to disaster? I'd say more than 500 - do you honestly think there were that many or more?
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Surely they can identify key "order givers" like the one to take alcohol blood samples from the dead and check for criminal records? Name and shame every copper should be its starting point. Also surprise, surprise the source of the Sun's story was the local Tory MP.
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Love the bit about how some piece of shit stole CCTV tapes - but of course can't be identified.