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One of the things that Souness succeeded in was making us that desperate that so many people want a football murderer like O'Neill so badly. On a personal basis if his wife is still ill then its a no-go. If she was declared as "well" today do you think any bloke would take a job like ours the next day? If it was me I'd be spending every second possible with her in any event. But no, Newcastle need a manager so obviously that will become his No 1 priority.

Make you wonder what they would have charged Hitler with. On the second point thats what I thought was strange about Bush's speech - correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Iran a "democracy" of some form?

I've always thought that people who used phrases like "murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people" were talking utter shite and it speaks volumes that they could "only" charge him with a very nasty reaction to an assassination attempt. I'm not saying he was "okay" but a secular, non-terrorist state in that part of the world always seemed like a reasonable thing to have.

Actually you're partially wrong - the other higher apes don't have such large breasts and biologically they have no relation to milk production per se. Anthropologists believe that human female breasts are "larger than necessary" as a sexual attraction device. 88094[/snapback] Practically word for word. 88132[/snapback] Never been able to watch anything more than about 2 minutes of any of it. Does that mean I think like Ricky Gervais or David Brent naturally? - Could be why I thought the show was too real to be funny.

Actually you're partially wrong - the other higher apes don't have such large breasts and biologically they have no relation to milk production per se. Anthropologists believe that human female breasts are "larger than necessary" as a sexual attraction device. This also applys to the human penis which is also larger than it needs to be and exceeds the relative size of our primate relatives.

I think the spending no money was an "absolute" descision rather than one undermining Souness - the only difference doing this 3/4 weeks ago would have made is a new man may have had time to wheel and deal.

87822[/snapback] I didn't think I'd ever see LM happy Right decision but I hope we get somebody we can all get behind.

Ideally I like to see a mixture of midfielders/CBs bringing it and the occasional long ball (Titus when it works) - anything rather than the exclusive hoof we've been seeing.

He took the ball off the centre-backs meaning there were fewer pointless high balls for the time he was on. he looked for forward passes especially to Charlie. He won a couple of few free kicks as they didn't know how else to stop his little runs. As I said he looked rusty but he did more in 20 minutes than Solano and Clark did. It may be we're that desperate that little things which should be routine pleased me disproportionately but I'd say its also the case thet we're also so depressed you can't see a couple of little bright spots - probably both.

Did you really expect else than a win against a team three leagues below? Are you really happy to see this kind of rubbish performances? Of course it is nice to be in the next round, but it would also be nice not looking like a League 2 team (and a bad one that is). 85599[/snapback] Seems Gemmill, Spongebob, and NJS are very easily pleased. Expectations lowered etc. 85600[/snapback] I expect to lose every game - thats been the case even when we've been good - its a fatalism I try to temper with ill-advised optimism in general (see my nominal support of Souness). Sima I though Emre at least tried to play football - he looked rusty but just one or two little things proved his class - nobody else (except maybe Parker) could claim that today.

Exactly. Emre made a big difference - that was the other positive for me.

In my first year of seniors we did "Classical Studies" which was mainly greek mythology - it was interesting but in the second year they split us so that the better pupils did Latin and the rest continued with the Classical stuff - I suffered latin for a year. Having said that it was just the same as learning french (and of course similar in many ways) but it was devalued as we knew it was "dead". I'd recommend for anyone who likes Sci-Fi "Illium" and "Olympos" by Dan Simmons - its set in the future but the plot involves the seige of Troy and all the Greek Gods who use science to dazzle the mortals.

I think it runs deeper than that. Think about how devoted people had to be to build these things, the same applies for scientific progress. Of course in an enlightened world load of what is written in the bible is historical rubbish. But there is far more in it than that, similes etc. They are the backbone of christian ethics that - like it or not - during the course of history has become the foundation of the thinking of what is seen as the western civilsation. It has formed our culture (and not only by architecture), our law etc. and even to a certain extent the progress of natural science (and hindered it often enough too). We like to see our states to be secular and the outer appearence seems to be. But the roots are still religious and intimately connected with Christianity. That's why I don't like to see it totally banned from schools, but it has to be voluntary. 85332[/snapback] I agree to an extent but I would still argue that what are called "christian" morals (the good bits anyway) are a natural human leaning that doesn't have to involve the carrot and stick of heaven and hell. Now maybe in the past those were needed to some extent but as I keep saying I think if we were more "enlightened" then we'd have the courage to keep the morals and consign the nonsense to history.

Absolutely - one of the things I miss about European football is the hungover tours of the cathedrals of Europe.

I'd echo GF's comments about the "arrogance" of the different "gangs" - to say the god of the jews is "the one" but the greek and roman (or Aztec or Hindu etc etc) gods are "supersticious nonsense" beggars belief. All Gods are products of individual tribes yearning for answers - nowt wrong with asking the questions but we should have grown out of them imo. I was just thinking the other day how different the world could have been if Alexander hadn't died so young (possibly preventing the rise of Rome) or if the Mongols hadn't turned back from Europe - the "indisputable truths" of religion are actually shaped by history and politics.

Even with my attitude I found the Horizon a while ago about art fakes in Israel shocking when it stated that there is absolutely no physical evendence for any event in the bible.

The thought of "God fucking with you" is one that has crossed my mind - because I know if I was him I'd have loved to have thought of it.

As I've said before I really want to have respect for people on this but I find the irrationality immensely frustrating - apologies if I go too far. On the point above I disagree the strongest. If all religious "instruction" was prohibited until people were adults a miniscule number would believe compared to how many do now. I accept that "thinking" people can come to a position of faith at any time but for the vast majority the indoctrination from birth is the key. This is why I feel so strongly about religion's position in schools.

Spot someone who didn't go to a catholic school which I assume will also be true of all the wonderful new faith schools of other colours - we were informed (in "reasonable" terms) that the bible was 100% the word of god and therefore indisputable. We also were taught proper history/science but nobody had the sense or courage to dispute the contradictions.

Theres no such thing as "religious theories" - thats the point - its all "beliefs" that you have to take on without question. If you teach religion then you have to teach them all as they are all as equally as "valid" as each other - it would leave no room for anything else in the curriculum. "Some people need to grow up" Some people need to escape brainwashing and think. BTW Evolution is as much "truth" as the earth orbiting the sun or the roman occupation of Britain - "theories" supported my masses of evidence.

I recorded Horizon last night to watch at the weekend. ID is a classic - "My tiny brain can't comprehend the timeframes involved with evoloution and is blind to all the evidence so when I see something as complicated as an eye God MUST have designed it".

I think its now illegal to give a "bad" reference - I think the worst they can do is give one that sounds like Gemmill's format.

British Views on Evolution The next time anyone says education in this country is anywhere near okay then quote this - obviously its twisted by the usual religion influence but I wouldn't be more disgusted if the same proportions insisted 2+2=5 or the Battle of Hastings was in 1065. This needs action imo. Of course the fact that the idiot in No 10 defended Vardy's brainwashing academies doesn't help.

I read recently that the vast majority of the (admittedly few) murders in Switzerland are carried out using the "compulsory" home gun. I know if you want to kill someone then you'd probably find a way but having deadly weapons to hand can't help.

I remember reading that there are 51million registered guns in Texas - thats 3 per head of population. I also noticed "had been suspended for bringing a weapon before" - suspended?