Toonraider 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) The highlight of the race coverage IMO..... *apologies to the non-F1 fans who won't get the joke or may not know who the other fella in the sauna is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vmCTjcSm4Y Yes that was my highlight too, absolute genius ps, I thought it had shades of Cruise and his bitter rival from Days of Thunder too!! Edited July 23, 2007 by Toonraider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 The highlight of the race coverage IMO..... *apologies to the non-F1 fans who won't get the joke or may not know who the other fella in the sauna is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vmCTjcSm4Y Superb ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casio 0 Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CHDLa1_UwlY Nice to see they can take the piss out of themselves. The highlight of the race coverage IMO..... *apologies to the non-F1 fans who won't get the joke or may not know who the other fella in the sauna is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vmCTjcSm4Y ......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 The Ferrari team have labelled as "incomprehensible" that the FIA has decided not to punish McLaren despite finding them guilty of possession of unauthorised documents. The FIA said after the Paris hearing that there was insufficient evidence to prove McLaren had benefited from leaked Ferrari data found at the home of their chief designer Mike Coughlan. The governing body said, however, that McLaren were guilty of having breached article 151c of the International Sporting Code. "Ferrari notes that Vodafone McLaren Mercedes has been found guilty by the FIA World Council," said the Italian team in a statement. "It therefore finds it incomprehensible that violating the fundamental principle of sporting honesty does not have, as a logical and inevitable consequence, the application of a sanction. Today's decision legitimises dishonest behaviour in Formula One and sets a very serious precedent. "In fact, the decision of the World Council signifies that possession, knowledge at the very highest level and use of highly confidential information acquired in an illicit manner and the acquiring of confidential information over the course of several months, represent violations that do not carry any punishment. "The fact that Vodafone McLaren Mercedes was in possession of such information was discovered totally by accident and, but for this, the team would continue to have it. This is all the more serious as it has occurred in a sport like Formula One in which small details make all the difference. "Ferrari feels this is highly prejudicial to the credibility of the sport. It will continue with the legal action already under way within the Italian criminal justice system and in the civil court in England." McLaren get off but I expect the FIA will throw the book at Stepney and Coughlan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7N587Qfh3w Wondered what Alonso & Massa were saying during their argument a couple of weeks back. Top marks to the presenter for use of the word 'bollocking' too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Tomorrows grid: 1. Fernando Alonso (Spa) McLaren 1min 19.674secs 2. Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren 1:19.781 3. Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber 1:20.259 4. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari 1:20.410 5. Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams - Toyota 1:20.632 6. Ralf Schumacher (Ger) Toyota 1:20.714 7. Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber 1:20.876 8. Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Renault 1:21.079 9. Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota 1:21.206 10. Mark Webber (Aust) RedBull- Renault 1:21.256 11. David Coulthard (GB) RedBull-Renault 1:20.718 12. Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) Renault 1:20.779 13. Alexander Wurz (Austria) Williams-Toyota 1:20.865 14. Felipe Massa (Bra) Ferrari 1:21.021 15. Anthony Davidson (GB) Super Aguri-Honda 1:21.127 16. Vitantonio Liuzzi (Ita) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:21.993 17. Jenson Button (GB) Honda 1:21.737 18. Rubens Barrichello (Bra) Honda 1:21.877 19. Takuma Sato (Jap) Super Aguri - Honda 1:22.143 20. Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:22.177 21. Adrian Sutil (Ger) Spyker - Ferrari 1:22.737 22. Sakon Yamamoto (Jap) Spyker - Ferrari 1:23.774 Controversy that Alonso parked his car at the end of the pit lane for ten seconds thus stopping Lewis Hamilton from getting his final flying lap in in time. Naughty-naughty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 (edited) Controversy that Alonso parked his car at the end of the pit lane for ten seconds thus stopping Lewis Hamilton from getting his final flying lap in in time. Naughty-naughty FIA Formula One rules:- 116) B ) If, in the opinion of the stewards, a driver deliberately stops on the circuit or impedes another driver in any way during the qualifying practice session his times will be cancelled. In this case, a team will not be able to appeal against the steward's decision. Edited August 4, 2007 by Happy Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Controversy that Alonso parked his car at the end of the pit lane for ten seconds thus stopping Lewis Hamilton from getting his final flying lap in in time. Naughty-naughty FIA Formula One rules:- 116) B ) If, in the opinion of the stewards, a driver deliberately stops on the circuit or impedes another driver in any way during the qualifying practice session his times will be cancelled. In this case, a team will not be able to appeal against the steward's decision. Alonso has been moved five places down the grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Controversy that Alonso parked his car at the end of the pit lane for ten seconds thus stopping Lewis Hamilton from getting his final flying lap in in time. Naughty-naughty FIA Formula One rules:- 116) B ) If, in the opinion of the stewards, a driver deliberately stops on the circuit or impedes another driver in any way during the qualifying practice session his times will be cancelled. In this case, a team will not be able to appeal against the steward's decision. Alonso has been moved five places down the grid. McLaren will also not be allowed to score constructors' points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Richards out to seal deal for McLaren cars A cut-price Formula One team will save £150 million by not designing or making their own cars but by buying the same machines that propel Lewis Hamilton to victory. McLaren Mercedes are said to be days away from signing a deal to supply cars and engines to a team being set up by David Richards, the former BAR Honda team principal and now head of the Aston Martin car company. Formula One has become as much a contest between constructors as drivers with teams such as McLaren spending tens of millions of pounds designing sophisticated cars to beat rivals from Ferrari, Williams and Renault. But Richards will enter the sport next year by a route that may anger traditionalists but which has been personally sanctioned by Max Mosley, president of the FIA, Formula One’s governing body. Mosley wants to slash the costs of entering a sport that, at the moment, demands entrepreneurs find as much as £100 million to design and build their own cars. But Richards will simply buy complete cars from McLaren and then run them at Grand Prix events in direct competition with the same cars being driven by Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, his teammate. While McLaren’s annual spending on research, development and manufacturing is thought to be more than £180 million a year, Richards’s as yet unnamed team will do the job for a fraction of the cost, thought to be about £30 million. Richards said yesterday: “McLaren is one of three possible options for us, but they are closest. We will not be able to make an announcement until next month but talks are progressing very well and we will be on the Formula One grid in 2008.” Sir Frank Williams, one of the longest serving team owners, is known to be opposed to teams racing so-called customer cars but Mosley points out that entrepreneurs such as him, who started more than 30 years ago, are now barred from entering F1 because of the prohibitive cost. Eddie Jordan was the last of the entrepreneur-owners to enter in 1991 and his place has been taken by car manufacturers and billion dollar conglomerates, including the Red Bull drinks operation. Red Bull, with Honda, are already involved in supplying “junior” teams but on a downgraded scale: Super Aguri is using the Hondas driven in 2006 by Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello, while Red Bull provides Scuderia Toro Rosso with variants of their machines. But the McLaren deal would be the first full-blown supply of up-to-date cars to an independent rival, effectively creating a McLaren second team. Some sponsors who have been unable to join the McLaren roster this year are thought to be interested in switching to Richards’s operation. It will be a masterstroke if Richards can pull off the McLaren contract. He proved to be one of Formula One’s cleverest strategists when he rescued Button from oblivion, placed him at BAR Honda and then propelled him to third place in the World Championship. Richards left when Honda took over the operation but his own company, Prodrive, is one of the most successful in the motor industry, designing and manufacturing for some of the world’s biggest car companies. He also runs the World Championship-winning Subaru rally team and now heads the Aston Martin car company, which he took over this year backed by money from the Middle East. Final legal issues are thought to stand in the way before McLaren can start supplying Richards. But those loopholes are expected to be cleared quickly and then the FIA will give the go-ahead for Richards to start his operation and become the twelfth team on the Formula One grid at the start of the 2008 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Havent seen any official news about the outcome of Mclaren's hearing yet, but a few sites are reporting that Mclaren have been excluded from this season's championship....whether that means totally or just constructor points I dont know. Think I'll wait for news on the official site.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 Havent seen any official news about the outcome of Mclaren's hearing yet, but a few sites are reporting that Mclaren have been excluded from this season's championship....whether that means totally or just constructor points I dont know. Think I'll wait for news on the official site.. Hopefully it's just constructor points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 According to some sources on NewsNow, there are unconfirmed reports that McLaren will be excluded from the 2007 AND 2008 championships... Pile of shite if its true - first really competitive season we've had in years (at least between 2 drivers in the same team) and the courts are putting a stop to it! Arseholes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 BBC LATEST: McLaren thrown out of 2007 constructors championship but drivers retain their points. More soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport...one/6991147.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 McLaren have been stripped of their points in the 2007 Formula One constructors championship after the outcome of the 'spygate' row. The team was also hit with a record $100m (£49.2m) fine but drivers Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso will be allowed to keep their points. The team's 2008 cars will have to be examined before they are allowed to race next season. Full story to follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Fucking conspiracy. Had it been the other way around, it'd have been thrown out... I fucking hate the FIAt, they ruin the sport! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 As a Ferrari follower, I think McLaren deserved to be punished. But the fine seems ludicrously high (I presume they will appeal) and isn't there a hypocrisy is saying the cars are illegal and unable to score points in the constructors championship yet the drivers who use them are allowed to score points in the drivers championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 As a Ferrari follower, I think McLaren deserved to be punished. But the fine seems ludicrously high (I presume they will appeal) and isn't there a hypocrisy is saying the cars are illegal and unable to score points in the constructors championship yet the drivers who use them are allowed to score points in the drivers championship? It's a team sport but with the emphasis on individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 As a Ferrari follower, I think McLaren deserved to be punished. But the fine seems ludicrously high (I presume they will appeal) and isn't there a hypocrisy is saying the cars are illegal and unable to score points in the constructors championship yet the drivers who use them are allowed to score points in the drivers championship? It's a team sport but with the emphasis on individuals. So if I built an 8-litre turbocharged engine, stuck it in a ground-effects chassis and ran it on massive slick tyres, that would be ok as far as the drivers championship was concerned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 It sound like Ron's claim that Couglin was working on his own and no-one else in the team knew anything about it is unravelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Apparently the documents were about a secret braking system Ferrari were using that made advantage of the Bridgestone tyres. As Mclaren were using Michelins last season, I presume they found the information extremely interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 McLaren have been thrown out of the constructors championship on the basis that one of the employees received highly secret documents from a Ferrari employee. OK we've not seen all the evidence but by all accounts it has been proved that this information has not been used or viewed by any other employee at McLaren. If the crime (an employee colluding with a employee of a rival team) is worthy of the penalty that the team be thrown out of the constructors championship then surely Ferrari should be excluded too?? It takes two to tango! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 :icon_lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 McLaren have been thrown out of the constructors championship on the basis that one of the employees received highly secret documents from a Ferrari employee. OK we've not seen all the evidence but by all accounts it has been proved that this information has not been used or viewed by any other employee at McLaren. If the crime (an employee colluding with a employee of a rival team) is worthy of the penalty that the team be thrown out of the constructors championship then surely Ferrari should be excluded too?? It takes two to tango! The information has been seen by other engineers and the drivers. Some of the evidence is email traffic between Alonso and De La Rosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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