Gemmill 34461 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I read in the paper yesterday that we're giving up our Academy facilities to Sky for 4 weeks so that they can make their celebrities-play-football programme "The Match". Apparently the youngsters will be using "alternative facilities". An utterly fucking astounding decision by Shepherd - you have to wonder how many other clubs in the Premiership would do something so disruptive in the middle of a season (I'm guessing none). Can you imagine Arsene Wenger doing something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I can imagine Wenger threatening to quite if told to do that! But remember we are a club who in ten years hasn't noticed we are shite at throw ins, who make young players worse, who during prem games employ umpa lumpas as ball boys and one football in the entire fucking ground and give the DJ job to whoever wanders in from the local loony bin. We are a massive professional club in some ways and in others we are a local park team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 If that's true, then that's absolutely disgraceful and it shows just where the unprofessional attitude surrounding the club really comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34461 Posted September 18, 2005 Author Share Posted September 18, 2005 I can imagine Wenger threatening to quite if told to do that! 34794[/snapback] You could have gone on to say that Souness's failure to threaten to quit makes him responsible in the main for this happening. You missed a trick there, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I can imagine Wenger threatening to quite if told to do that! 34794[/snapback] You could have gone on to say that Souness's failure to threaten to quit makes him responsible in the main for this happening. You missed a trick there, I reckon. 34803[/snapback] Not really, by deliberately leaving that open i felt confident you would fall into the trap and say it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Shearer Is God 0 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I blame the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Yet another scenario where money talks louder for FF than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakermaker 0 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 more importantly,aren't the academy's facilities now the first teams facilities ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirkenheadMag 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I blame the fans. 34854[/snapback] Blame the fans? Are you mad?! Everyone can see it's Bellamy and Robert's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I heard from a very good source that GS has no interest in the Academy, this would tend to go along with this. Of course, FFS may have made the decision regardless, based on the money he'll receive for it. Either way, the last programme was utter gash although it was funny to see a 40 year old Alec Stewart putting Ian Wright in his back pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I have it on good authority that Souness didn't give a flying fuck about Blackburn's academy so this doesn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34461 Posted September 19, 2005 Author Share Posted September 19, 2005 I have it on good authority that he has a phobia of ALL academies. Even the Academy Awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6306 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I have it on good authority that Souness didn't give a flying fuck about Blackburn's academy so this doesn't surprise me. 35248[/snapback] Possibly.... But then KK had no interest in Newcastle's reserves playing at SJP and promptly abandoned the reserve team meaning that all the decent kids who were on the fringe, pissed off to other clubs.... But then KK was god, wasn't he?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I have it on good authority that Souness didn't give a flying fuck about Blackburn's academy so this doesn't surprise me. 35248[/snapback] Possibly.... But then KK had no interest in Newcastle's reserves playing at SJP and promptly abandoned the reserve team meaning that all the decent kids who were on the fringe, pissed off to other clubs.... But then KK was god, wasn't he?? 35285[/snapback] Deliver KK standard football, entertainment and results, get us into europe and finish 2nd in the premiership and Souness can happilly ignore the academy as long as he likes. Get results and produce the football we all love and you can get away with other things, its always been that way and always will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6306 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I have it on good authority that Souness didn't give a flying fuck about Blackburn's academy so this doesn't surprise me. 35248[/snapback] Possibly.... But then KK had no interest in Newcastle's reserves playing at SJP and promptly abandoned the reserve team meaning that all the decent kids who were on the fringe, pissed off to other clubs.... But then KK was god, wasn't he?? 35285[/snapback] Deliver KK standard football, entertainment and results, get us into europe and finish 2nd in the premiership and Souness can happilly ignore the academy as long as he likes. Get results and produce the football we all love and you can get away with other things, its always been that way and always will. 35328[/snapback] Only KK dissolved the youth structure at the club and then walked away.... Granted, he did produce attractive football, but I would have given that up for actual success and longetivity rather than the short term 'Entertainers' we had... Keegan planned for the short-term with a very expensive gamble. Had we won the league, the money would have rolled in, as would the world-class players to continue the trend. The money would also have paid for Alan Shearer rather than us having to sell quite a proportion of our assets to satisfy the bank. Hence why in the summer of 1997, Dalglish was left with a thinning squad, little money in the bank and sadly, some cruical injuries. Hence why we ended up signing the likes of Pearce, Barnes & Rush.... Whether you accept it was the gamble was the right thing to do at the time, what we all have to accept is that the particular gamble KK took sent us back years in terms of youth development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I have it on good authority that Souness didn't give a flying fuck about Blackburn's academy so this doesn't surprise me. 35248[/snapback] Possibly.... But then KK had no interest in Newcastle's reserves playing at SJP and promptly abandoned the reserve team meaning that all the decent kids who were on the fringe, pissed off to other clubs.... But then KK was god, wasn't he?? 35285[/snapback] Deliver KK standard football, entertainment and results, get us into europe and finish 2nd in the premiership and Souness can happilly ignore the academy as long as he likes. Get results and produce the football we all love and you can get away with other things, its always been that way and always will. 35328[/snapback] Only KK dissolved the youth structure at the club and then walked away.... Granted, he did produce attractive football, but I would have given that up for actual success and longetivity rather than the short term 'Entertainers' we had... Keegan planned for the short-term with a very expensive gamble. Had we won the league, the money would have rolled in, as would the world-class players to continue the trend. The money would also have paid for Alan Shearer rather than us having to sell quite a proportion of our assets to satisfy the bank. Hence why in the summer of 1997, Dalglish was left with a thinning squad, little money in the bank and sadly, some cruical injuries. Hence why we ended up signing the likes of Pearce, Barnes & Rush.... Whether you accept it was the gamble was the right thing to do at the time, what we all have to accept is that the particular gamble KK took sent us back years in terms of youth development. 35338[/snapback] I'm not saying whether it was right or wrong, just pointing out as long as you deliver on the pitch where fans can see then you will be able to get away with other stuff. Keegan did better than anyone else we've had in recent times, but i wasn't happy with his decision on the reserves and his attention to youth players as they are important in the background of what happens on the pitch on mathcday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I have it on good authority that Souness didn't give a flying fuck about Blackburn's academy so this doesn't surprise me. 35248[/snapback] Possibly.... But then KK had no interest in Newcastle's reserves playing at SJP and promptly abandoned the reserve team meaning that all the decent kids who were on the fringe, pissed off to other clubs.... But then KK was god, wasn't he?? 35285[/snapback] No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 84 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 I have it on good authority that Souness didn't give a flying fuck about Blackburn's academy so this doesn't surprise me. 35248[/snapback] Possibly.... But then KK had no interest in Newcastle's reserves playing at SJP and promptly abandoned the reserve team meaning that all the decent kids who were on the fringe, pissed off to other clubs.... But then KK was god, wasn't he?? 35285[/snapback] emm not in my eyes no. Tactically naive but a good motivator and a good figurehead for the club. But his discarding the academy and reserve team did years of damage to the club imho like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 9 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Yet another scenario where money talks louder for FF than anything else. 34955[/snapback] I know. Just like the time he resisted giving Fulham & Fenerbahce a few extra million pound and sent a couple of million Euros to Spain instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Whether you accept it was the gamble was the right thing to do at the time, what we all have to accept is that the particular gamble KK took sent us back years in terms of youth development. 35338[/snapback] Agreed. We lost out on Michael Carrick because of Keegan's youth policy. Paul Brayson looked to be a brilliant prospect, but just rotted away and ended up in the lower leagues, because Keegan wasn't arsed about the academy, and therefore the youth team didn't get the breaks or guidance they should have been getting. Keegan did a lot of good for NUFC, but those who say he looked at the short term and as a result the long term (such as the youth teams) suffered are dead right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6306 Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 Other names which feel by the wayside were Darren Huckerby and Chris Holland. Both who at the time, we considered to be a bit special but, because we had no reserve league, they weren't fussed at staying... All this was lost due to the cutting up of the SJP pitch. Keegan wanted the reserves to play their matches at Gateshead International Stadium, the league wouldn't allow it. The irony of it all is that even now, the pitch has always been as shite at certain points of the season as it was back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Whether you accept it was the gamble was the right thing to do at the time, what we all have to accept is that the particular gamble KK took sent us back years in terms of youth development. 35338[/snapback] Agreed. We lost out on Michael Carrick because of Keegan's youth policy. Paul Brayson looked to be a brilliant prospect, but just rotted away and ended up in the lower leagues, because Keegan wasn't arsed about the academy, and therefore the youth team didn't get the breaks or guidance they should have been getting. Keegan did a lot of good for NUFC, but those who say he looked at the short term and as a result the long term (such as the youth teams) suffered are dead right. 35679[/snapback] Paul Brayson wasn't good enough, simple as. The best academy in the world wouldn't have altered that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 FF seems to have a decided partiality for anything 'tv' or slightly showbizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Seeing his smug face at the Goal! premiere made me giggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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