Alex 31010 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) Or the choice between a leave candidate who really wanted to remain and vice-versa. Edited July 11, 2016 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Chair of 1922 committee to speak at 12.30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I cant wait for the Netflix adaptation of all this anyway. Helen Mirren as Theresa May, Matt Lucas as Boris Johnson, Bernard Cribbins as Jeremy Corbyn, Alan Pardew as Michael Gove and Idris Elba as Farage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14997 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18226 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I was saying last week to someone that i thought May had masterminded the whole fallout from the referendum in her favour. Michael Gove comes over as a self absorbed prick, just the sort of person who could be flattered into doing something stupid. The whole pace at which the killing of Boris (encouraged by someone senior in the party) was quickly translated into an act of a traitor (rolled out perfectly across the news cycle with buy in from the DM - who did leak that message from Vine?) just made me think it was too neat to be just 'unfolding events' - power doesnt get transferred so dramatically on the whims of on the cuff decision-making. Anyway, seem i'm not the only one who thought this https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/09/country-political-crisis-tories-prime-minister "We may assume that powerful Conservative figures wanted Boris Johnson gone, for historical as well as proximal reasons. Someone lofty may have spoken smoothly into the ear of his lieutenant, Michael Gove, to persuade him he was prime minister material and that he should desert. When he did and Johnson stepped aside, a so-called grandee, Michael Heseltine, was on hand to disembowel the corpse. Then, for his 15 minutes, Gove was before us, cross-gartered like foolish Malvolio, until another grandee, Kenneth Clarke, in concert with the Daily Mail, was ready to knife his guts. Two down in the summer of contempt." It was all May all along. I'm very sceptical about conspiracies in general but this is entirely plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Leadsoms gone. Sounds like no 2nd candidate. All hail May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13915 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Creep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36075 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Leadsom: Standing in leadership contest worse than childbirth.... Not that Theresa May would know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 My god, the level to which I despise the Tories has reached heights totally unforeseen to me up until today. They should be voted into oblivion for this utter fucking chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Leadsom: Standing in leadership contest worse than childbirth.... Not that Theresa May would know. Oof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14997 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 With all leaves main players ironically all erm "leaving" for one reason or another I wonder how the negotiations with the EU will pan out?.... If it is a major conspiracy by the (slightly) saner part of the Tory party to get a remain figure in as PM for that particular gig then well fuckin played folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18226 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 With all leaves main players ironically all erm "leaving" for one reason or another I wonder how the negotiations with the EU will pan out?.... If it is a major conspiracy by the (slightly) saner part of the Tory party to get a remain figure in as PM for that particular gig then well fuckin played folks Hopefully it will signal a soft Brexit rather than a hard one, which is preferable. Going to be a lot of unhappy Leavers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Confirmed May is PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Hasn't May literally just said that stopping freedom of movement will be prioritised over staying in the single market? She's going full blown brexit man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 5140 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Yeah, I thought that as well. Unless i've missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Hasn't May literally just said that stopping freedom of movement will be prioritised over staying in the single market? She's going full blown brexit man. I didn't hear her say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Q: Would you stay in the single market? May says she wants to get the best deal for trade in goods and services. But free movement of labour cannot continue. The Brexit vote was very clear on that, she says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 That's not what that says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Put simply, we are out. Not even Norway style out, we're out like Zimbabwe is out. This has been a disaster beyond all reckoning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13915 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Q: Would you stay in the single market? May says she wants to get the best deal for trade in goods and services. But free movement of labour cannot continue. The Brexit vote was very clear on that, she says. Which isn't saying its prioritised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 That's not what that says. It's not what it says unless you believe that the EU is going to allow us to remain in the single market without freedom of movement. So, unless there is EU reform. Or am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 It's not what it says unless you believe that the EU is going to allow us to remain in the single market without freedom of movement. So, unless there is EU reform. Or am I missing something? Yes. The Negogiation!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Which isn't saying its prioritised. Well, the word prioritised was taken from the Guardian, but I'm struggling to see how anyone can come to a different conclusion. Care to spell out how that statement doesn't effectively mean that stopping freedom of movement is more important than trade? Given that Freedom of Movement 'Cannot continue' and trade and services will get 'the best deal possible'. Pretty clear to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Well, the word prioritised was taken from the Guardian, but I'm struggling to see how anyone can come to a different conclusion. Care to spell out how that statement doesn't effectively mean that stopping freedom of movement is more important than trade? Given that Freedom of Movement 'Cannot continue' and trade and services will get 'the best deal possible'. Pretty clear to me. See my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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