Christmas Tree 4005 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 Unless its in a party leadership contest, and then apparently you can. Jeremy's just the Trojan horse. He'll be discarded as soon as they're all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 31004 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 CT's more like the back end of a pantomine horse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Jeremy's just the Trojan horse. He'll be discarded as soon as they're all in. As soon as who is all in..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 As soon as who is all in..? The hard left, the trots, etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 My boss is the spit of Trotsky. Similarity starts and ends there like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 31004 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Ever felt the desire to imbed an ice pick in his head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 The hard left, the trots, etc etc How many of them do you think there are, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 How many of them do you think there are, exactly? Many in the top echelons. The ones running momentum, calling the shots, asking previously banned elements to "flood in". For them Corbyn is just a means to an end. They are looking past 2020 to the hard left dream. Get Corbyn elected Take over the local parties Take over the NEC Get the right candidates in as MP's so that when Jeremy departs there will be enough hard left MP's to nominate "their man". Momentum will do the rest. They tried all this in the 80's and failed. Social media has assured their success this time around. Sure there are a lot of posh kids and students caught up in it all, but they will be left with a nasty surprise down the road........ And by then, it will be too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Ever felt the desire to imbed an ice pick in his head? Quite a few times as it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 31004 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Many in the top echelons. The ones running momentum, calling the shots, asking previously banned elements to "flood in". For them Corbyn is just a means to an end. They are looking past 2020 to the hard left dream. Get Corbyn elected Take over the local parties Take over the NEC Get the right candidates in as MP's so that when Jeremy departs there will be enough hard left MP's to nominate "their man". Momentum will do the rest. They tried all this in the 80's and failed. Social media has assured their success this time around. Sure there are a lot of posh kids and students caught up in it all, but they will be left with a nasty surprise down the road........ And by then, it will be too late. Poor effort that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36061 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 CT's got the political world on a string. Amazing that he's not a regular fixture on Daily Politics. The Brillo vs The Cone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Many in the top echelons. The ones running momentum, calling the shots, asking previously banned elements to "flood in". For them Corbyn is just a means to an end. They are looking past 2020 to the hard left dream. Get Corbyn elected Take over the local parties Take over the NEC Get the right candidates in as MP's so that when Jeremy departs there will be enough hard left MP's to nominate "their man". Momentum will do the rest. They tried all this in the 80's and failed. Social media has assured their success this time around. Sure there are a lot of posh kids and students caught up in it all, but they will be left with a nasty surprise down the road........ And by then, it will be too late. Too late? For Labour or for the world as we know it? Also, what nasty surprises? The policies that JC has put forward are what people are drawn in by. If Momentum ditch those policies, why would anyone hang around? The issue for most people is that no one thinks he can win, and that this experiment will cause people to suffer. Not that some manner of evil is about to rise in the West, as you seem to be suggesting...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20232 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 CT's got the political world on a string. Amazing that he's not a regular fixture on Daily Politics. The Brillo vs The Cone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 Too late? For Labour or for the world as we know it? Also, what nasty surprises? The policies that JC has put forward are what people are drawn in by. If Momentum ditch those policies, why would anyone hang around? The issue for most people is that no one thinks he can win, and that this experiment will cause people to suffer. Not that some manner of evil is about to rise in the West, as you seem to be suggesting...? The nasty surprise is that most normal Labour folk will be left with a fag end of an extreme party that will never again gain power. The moderates will have been vanquished. There will be no centre / centre left party to represent them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18220 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 The nasty surprise is that most normal Labour folk will be left with a fag end of an extreme party that will never again gain power. The moderates will have been vanquished. There will be no centre / centre left party to represent them. But if demand is there it will ultimately be supplied, whether by Labour or something else. I know you've got your Y fronts all moist in anticipation of permanent Tory rule, but it won't work out like that. At the minute things are so fucked up it's pointless even making predictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4005 Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 But if demand is there it will ultimately be supplied, whether by Labour or something else. I know you've got your Y fronts all moist in anticipation of permanent Tory rule, but it won't work out like that. At the minute things are so fucked up it's pointless even making predictions. Demand will be there it will just splinter. Some seats to UKIP, some to the greens, some to the lib Dems. Maybe even another centre left. And whilst it's all very amusing to watch, it's definitely not good and continuous rule by any party is very very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 27879 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Eventually labour will sort themselves out. They'll sit around a sofa from five years interest free payments, that's 0% APR representative, folks and that's a cracking deal in anyone's language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 31004 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20232 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 good to see the foreign secretary has his finger on the pulse Boris Johnson has been rapped over the knuckles by Downing Street for claiming that Britain will launch its EU exit negotiations “by the early part of next year” and that Brexit could be completed within two years. The foreign secretary was immediately rebuffed by Theresa May, who has ordered her ministers not to engage in a “running commentary” on Britain’s negotiating strategy or the timing of Brexit talks. Downing Street said Mrs May was not committed to any timetable for activating Article 50 of the EU treaty, which sets the clock ticking on a two-year negotiating period to complete exit talks. Asked about Mr Johnson’s claim that Brexit could be wrapped up within two years — a view not widely shared in Whitehall — Mrs May’s spokesman said: “We would not speculate on that.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 31004 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 "Planning" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14166 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 It's just a jape. Something something wiff-waff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 good to see the foreign secretary has his finger on the pulse Boris Johnson has been rapped over the knuckles by Downing Street for claiming that Britain will launch its EU exit negotiations “by the early part of next year” and that Brexit could be completed within two years. The foreign secretary was immediately rebuffed by Theresa May, who has ordered her ministers not to engage in a “running commentary” on Britain’s negotiating strategy or the timing of Brexit talks. Downing Street said Mrs May was not committed to any timetable for activating Article 50 of the EU treaty, which sets the clock ticking on a two-year negotiating period to complete exit talks. Asked about Mr Johnson’s claim that Brexit could be wrapped up within two years — a view not widely shared in Whitehall — Mrs May’s spokesman said: “We would not speculate on that.” Fucking hell I think she's going to regret making some of the appointments that she has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 27036 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 It's not like Boris to speak out of turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20232 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 It's quite extraordinary that he was given a cabinet position given his recent attempts at political suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4981 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I wonder if she's using him as the vehicle through which to assert her authority. She reels him out occasionally and gives him a mullering, and it keeps the rest of them in line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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