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10 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

Agree with a lot of that, but not the last paragraph, the peace talks are a game/front IMO, he'll make some unreasonable demands and when rejected just say "Ukraine doesn't want peace" and on it'll go, sadly the orange shitgibbon will likely buy the story.

 

 

I’m not sure Trump has the stones to actually throw Ukraine to the dogs anymore- his recent rhetoric against Putin suggests so too*
 

*( As much as you can believe a single thing that falls out of TACO’s face anus). 

And, if he did, I honestly think Europe would step up and commit to Ukraine more forcefully. 

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47 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

I’m not sure Trump has the stones to actually throw Ukraine to the dogs anymore- his recent rhetoric against Putin suggests so too*
 

*( As much as you can believe a single thing that falls out of TACO’s face anus). 

And, if he did, I honestly think Europe would step up and commit to Ukraine more forcefully. 

 

I hope so, but Putin has no interest in peace.

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39 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

I hope so, but Putin has no interest in peace.

His primary interest is power, and retaining it. 
If peace is how he does that, he’ll sit down and talk. 
 

He’s going to run out of resources at some point, and also bodies to use the resources. 
Even the basic equipment of warfare- trucks, artillery etc, need some kind of training to use. 
That requires an extensive stock just for training purposes. 
More specialist equipment, like tanks, takes longer to train for, and longer to replace what’s lost in battle. 
What he’s got is out of date and poorly maintained. 

He’ll run out of the gear before he runs out of bodies, but when the number of bodies coming back (or not) gets too big, the plebs will start to question the propaganda, too. 
 

To me, peace is his only real option. 
 

What that peace turns out to be is another question- he could probably fully withdraw and cede all the territory he’s taken, and still spin it as a win back home. 
 

It depends on how hard Ukraine push in any negotiations. 
 

I can see them demanding Crimea be returned as a base of negotiations, then the Donbas region in the east being haggled over. 
 

 

But what do I know, I’m just a trucker who likes filthy mares 

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18 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

His primary interest is power, and retaining it. 
If peace is how he does that, he’ll sit down and talk. 
 

He’s going to run out of resources at some point, and also bodies to use the resources. 
Even the basic equipment of warfare- trucks, artillery etc, need some kind of training to use. 
That requires an extensive stock just for training purposes. 
More specialist equipment, like tanks, takes longer to train for, and longer to replace what’s lost in battle. 
What he’s got is out of date and poorly maintained. 

He’ll run out of the gear before he runs out of bodies, but when the number of bodies coming back (or not) gets too big, the plebs will start to question the propaganda, too. 
 

To me, peace is his only real option. 
 

What that peace turns out to be is another question- he could probably fully withdraw and cede all the territory he’s taken, and still spin it as a win back home. 
 

It depends on how hard Ukraine push in any negotiations. 
 

I can see them demanding Crimea be returned as a base of negotiations, then the Donbas region in the east being haggled over. 
 

 

But what do I know, I’m just a trucker who likes filthy mares 

 

He's like Hitler in 44/45 I think what you say is perfectly rational but Putin's not rational, he won't hand back Crimea because to him it's Russia and it also uses that bridge which was very much his pet project.

 

Nigh on 750k dead Russians already, the bodies going home (or not) aren't making a difference and I suspect won't, it's a great patriotic war 🙄

 

He doesn't just want Ukraine he wants the Baltic states back, he won't stop until he's stopped IMO.

Edited Monday at 14:17 by Toonpack

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We’ll have to agree to disagree. 
 

Anyway, I’ve just about hit my yearly quota of contributions to this thread. 
 

I’m off to watch an instructional video on pipe fitting basics before getting my head down. 
 

“ Latina Ho Separates Her Flanges”. 

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