Big Willy Osula

[Holden McGroin 8222]

54 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

 

We didn't loan out Hall or Tino...not sure we should be loaning out the Spanish lad either..

True. I just think CF is a vital position. I don't mind him being 3rd choice but the chances are Eddie would probably play Gordon ahead of him anyway so not sure how much time he'll get to develop. I'll leave it to Howe and Tindall of course. They see him every day.

[Craig 7942]

Mbeumo is quite obviously interested in following Frank to Spurs. Whether he would have been a good fit is immaterial if the player has no interest in coming here. 

I wouldn't loan Osula out - he needs game time and we should be using him from the bench instead of Wilson. He's not going to be Isak standard, but then not many are that standard. All loaning him out will do is put him in the shop window most likely for a Championship club and then someone like Villa snap him up in a couple of years when he's started to show promise and we all consider what might have been had we kept him and played him - it'd be like Ivan Toney all over again.

[PaddockLad 20139]

I don't think Osula will be loaned out due to us having at least 8 extra games before mid  January and still being behind the likes of Villa squad wise. We need bodies and loaning out anyone including Cordero strikes me as nuts tbh

[Holden McGroin 8222]

Im under the assumption we will buy at least 1 striker and 1 player that can fill in there (eg an Mbeumo or Pedro type) - who will all be above Osulu in the pecking order.

 

 

 

 

[Dr Gloom 24537]

59 minutes ago, Craig said:

Mbeumo is quite obviously interested in following Frank to Spurs. Whether he would have been a good fit is immaterial if the player has no interest in coming here. 

I wouldn't loan Osula out - he needs game time and we should be using him from the bench instead of Wilson. He's not going to be Isak standard, but then not many are that standard. All loaning him out will do is put him in the shop window most likely for a Championship club and then someone like Villa snap him up in a couple of years when he's started to show promise and we all consider what might have been had we kept him and played him - it'd be like Ivan Toney all over again.

 

yes, obviously. which is why i think we'll sign another versatile forward who can cover CF as well as a wide position, instead of a specialist CF. i don't know if that player is elanga, joao pedro or someone else we haven't been linked with yet but i suspect it'll be someone with versatility so we can let wilson go and keep osula as third choice. 

 

it would be great to get a new RW and a specialist CF to cover Isak but it blows a massive amount of the budget. i'm not sure we have the cash to get players in all the positions we have been rumoured to be upgrading (CF, RW, RCB, CM and GK) without significant outgoings.

[PaddockLad 20139]

1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said:

Im under the assumption we will buy at least 1 striker and 1 player that can fill in there (eg an Mbeumo or Pedro type) - who will all be above Osulu in the pecking order.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah but look at the injury situation the last time we qualified for Europe... 

[PaddockLad 20139]

I'm in

38 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

yes, obviously. which is why i think we'll sign another versatile forward who can cover CF as well as a wide position, instead of a specialist CF. i don't know if that player is elanga, joao pedro or someone else we haven't been linked with yet but i suspect it'll be someone with versatility so we can let wilson go and keep osula as third choice. 

 

it would be great to get a new RW and a specialist CF to cover Isak but it blows a massive amount of the budget. i'm not sure we have the cash to get players in all the positions we have been rumoured to be upgrading (CF, RW, RCB, CM and GK) without significant outgoings.

 

 We're not going to get everything on your shopping list. It's financially impossible to. We didn't last season either and we all know how that turned out. It's not that I was happy myself last September (last summers window was very publicly a disaster) but if Cordero is a midfielder and we get a couple of forwards and a CB that will probably be it. Of course I might be completely incorrect on all that, yeah I know that sounds unbelievable etc etc 😆

[Dr Gloom 24537]

26 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

I'm in

 

 We're not going to get everything on your shopping list. It's financially impossible to. We didn't last season either and we all know how that turned out. It's not that I was happy myself last September (last summers window was very publicly a disaster) but if Cordero is a midfielder and we get a couple of forwards and a CB that will probably be it. Of course I might be completely incorrect on all that, yeah I know that sounds unbelievable etc etc 😆

 

it's not my personal shopping list. i based it on the main players we're currently being linked with (pedro, elanga, ramsey, guehi and trafford). 

 

i have no clue if we are actually planning to add players in all of those positions, what our total budget is, how many players we will need to shift in order to finance it while staying clear of psr problems etc. 

 

it's probably unlikely that we buy specialist players in all of those positions, particularly CF. we already have isak and osula and they're typically the most expensive players on the market. that's why the pedro link makes sense to me, despite the astronomical fee mooted, as he can add depth in about four positions 

 

[Kid Dynamite 8083]

3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

that’s why mbueno would have been a good fit - a wide player who is comfortable covering CF so Osula could continue as third choice CF and a wild card option out wide. I agree he should stay to aid his development but we need more depth across the front line so we’re not relying on him too heavily 

Probably the exact reason we are after Pedro tbf. He can play across the front 3 like Gordon, but is much better at CF than him. 

[Kid Dynamite 8083]

2 hours ago, Holden McGroin said:

Im under the assumption we will buy at least 1 striker and 1 player that can fill in there (eg an Mbeumo or Pedro type) - who will all be above Osulu in the pecking order.

 

 

 

 

If we get Pedro Im not sure we will sign another striker on top of him. He's got 30 goals in 70 games for Brighton, which beats anyone in our squad bar Isak. 

[Holden McGroin 8222]

6 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

If we get Pedro Im not sure we will sign another striker on top of him. He's got 30 goals in 70 games for Brighton, which beats anyone in our squad bar Isak. 

 

Possibly but I think someone that could do a shift up there (in the ilk of Gordon) might be desirable in the RW search.

[Dr Gloom 24537]

6 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

If we get Pedro Im not sure we will sign another striker on top of him. He's got 30 goals in 70 games for Brighton, which beats anyone in our squad bar Isak. 

 

yeah, he makes total sense for that reason. can also play as number 10 if howe wants the option of playing 4-2-3-1.

 

however, he is expensive and a lot of his goals have been pens but i like the idea of another brazilian in the mix 

 

 

[OTF 8972]

Big Willy also counts as a home-grown player for us (I believe) as his combined time with Sheffield and us under the age of 21 qualifies him.

[ewerk 34863]

7 hours ago, OTF said:

Big Willy also counts as a home-grown player for us (I believe) as his combined time with Sheffield and us under the age of 21 qualifies him.

 

I think basically you need a minimum of eight home grown players i.e. trained in the country. The problem is that at least four of them have to be club trained i.e. trained by us for two years between the ages of 15 and 21. Osula doesn't qualify for the latter category. I think the only player we have who does qualify is Longstaff. Gillespie left for Carlisle before the two years and the likes of Miley aren't registered on the A list as they're under 21.

[Holden McGroin 8222]

32 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

I think basically you need a minimum of eight home grown players i.e. trained in the country. The problem is that at least four of them have to be club trained i.e. trained by us for two years between the ages of 15 and 21. Osula doesn't qualify for the latter category. I think the only player we have who does qualify is Longstaff. Gillespie left for Carlisle before the two years and the likes of Miley aren't registered on the A list as they're under 21.

 

This is when we buy back Elliot Anderson.

[Dazzler 12985]

1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said:

 

This is when we buy back Elliot Anderson.

Straight Uno reverse - send the goalie back and bring the geordie maradona home.