Kid Dynamite 6092 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 what you going for? Im going for the HD-DVD simply because i already have my 360 running through an HD Scart on my folks TV and the DVD add on looks like being released soon and its only £90 in japan http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/20-09-2006-3652.html Sonys new blu ray player is being released too and that costs $999 http://www.bestbuy.com/olspage.jsp?id=pcmc...p;type=category tough choice like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 PS3 dictates that Blueray will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Betamax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Betamax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6092 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Share Posted September 25, 2006 Like i pointed out before, sony last 2 'innovations' betamax and mini disc bombed terribly. Ive a feeling that the late arrival and daft price of the ps3 (£450 for the HD version) will see a lot of people leaning towards HD-DVD. The thousands of middle aged men who paid £2k for hd tvs from currys not actually knowing what they do will probably latch onto the fact that hd-dvds go with hd tvs and that you have to buy a blu ray tv to watch blu ray dvds. never underestimate the stupidity of the british middle classes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Like i pointed out before, sony last 2 'innovations' betamax and mini disc bombed terribly. Ive a feeling that the late arrival and daft price of the ps3 (£450 for the HD version) will see a lot of people leaning towards HD-DVD. The thousands of middle aged men who paid £2k for hd tvs from currys not actually knowing what they do will probably latch onto the fact that hd-dvds go with hd tvs and that you have to buy a blu ray tv to watch blu ray dvds. never underestimate the stupidity of the british middle classes! Or, to be fair, the majority of the rest of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Both doomed to fail tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) Like i pointed out before, sony last 2 'innovations' betamax and mini disc bombed terribly. Ive a feeling that the late arrival and daft price of the ps3 (£450 for the HD version) will see a lot of people leaning towards HD-DVD. The thousands of middle aged men who paid £2k for hd tvs from currys not actually knowing what they do will probably latch onto the fact that hd-dvds go with hd tvs and that you have to buy a blu ray tv to watch blu ray dvds. never underestimate the stupidity of the british middle classes! Where the hell is that from? Considering there is no such thing as a blu-ray TV, I doubt that people will invent one in their own mind tbh. Oh, and the 'cheaper' PS3 will have HD output, Sony confirmed it recently. The doubts still remain as to whether we will get that version at all though. Edited September 25, 2006 by nufc4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I have understood precisely 17% of everything that has been written on this page. Part of that was "Betamax" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I have understood precisely 17% of everything that has been written on this page. Part of that was "Betamax" Two different formats of next-generation DVDs, basically, with much greater capacity for higher detail picture quality. There is going to be a format war. It's nothing to worry about tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 i saw a pic of the internals of a hd-dvd and it had a 1gb stick of ram in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I have understood precisely 17% of everything that has been written on this page. Part of that was "Betamax" Two different formats of next-generation DVDs, basically, with much greater capacity for higher detail picture quality. There is going to be a format war. It's nothing to worry about tbh. Ah, merci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toplass-101 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I have understood precisely 17% of everything that has been written on this page. Part of that was "Betamax" aye its not just me and Ragi who post gobildygook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 (edited) Without the PS3 and Sony's insistence on putting a player in it (despite all the complications), Blu-ray would die on it's arse IMO. Edited September 25, 2006 by nufc4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13915 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 the french and that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I have understood precisely 17% of everything that has been written on this page. Part of that was "Betamax" Two different formats of next-generation DVDs, basically, with much greater capacity for higher detail picture quality. There is going to be a format war. It's nothing to worry about tbh. How can you say "theres going to be a war" and expect us not to worry? OMG!!! somebody think of the children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6321 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 It's far too early to say... HD is using AC1 as it's compression algorithm, Blu Ray has, up until now been using MPEG2 however they're changing it so that they're using AC1 as well. AC1 has a better compression ratio and therefore they quality is not as reduced as that of MPEG2. As for the cost, well at present the HD-DVD players are anything between £400 and £700, Blu Ray players are costing around £1000. However as with all technology, this will undoubtedly reduce rapidly over time. With that in mind, and with no idea whatsoever how the Blu Ray will perform with AC1 compression or which way the consumer will sway, I'd keep your pennies in the piggy bank for the time being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35580 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Surely anyone with any sense will wait until a) it becomes apparent which of the two formats will be most popular and b ) the prices come down. The dweebs who have to be first to own these things either end up buying the wrong one or paying massively over the odds. I like having a decent widescreen telly, and when I go into Bainbridges or whatever and see the HD TVs, the picture is amazing, but I'm not THAT arsed that I would hand over thousands of pounds. It doesn't make the programmes you watch any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Yep, there's no point at these prices. Just look how much DVD players cost these days. Also, the SkyHD box has already dropped £100 to £199 I noticed the other day - if it dropped another £100 i'd be interested. Until then, it's just OTT for what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35580 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Yep, there's no point at these prices. Just look how much DVD players cost these days. Also, the SkyHD box has already dropped £100 to £199 I noticed the other day - if it dropped another £100 i'd be interested. Until then, it's just OTT for what you get. Until you don't have to pay £10 a month for a handful of HD channels, they can nick off tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Touché. They had it on the Gadget Show last night and most of the programs aren't shown in HD anyway, even on the HD channels. The sport would be the only thing worthwhile. Even so, you're really meant to have a 32"+ TV to get the best from it, mine is in my bedroom and it's 27". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35580 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I've got a 32" telly like, but it's not HD, and I'm already paying a tenner extra a month for the multiroom, so I'm not gonna pay another tenner for HD. Which reminds me - I need to ring Sky and threaten to leave again so that they give me my subscription for half price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Mine's an HD ready LCD, but I started a mass argument on AVForums last time I asked if i'd notice the difference on a 27" TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 35580 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 I take it the dweebs derided your mere 27 incher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Like i pointed out before, sony last 2 'innovations' betamax and mini disc bombed terribly. Ive a feeling that the late arrival and daft price of the ps3 (£450 for the HD version) will see a lot of people leaning towards HD-DVD. The thousands of middle aged men who paid £2k for hd tvs from currys not actually knowing what they do will probably latch onto the fact that hd-dvds go with hd tvs and that you have to buy a blu ray tv to watch blu ray dvds. never underestimate the stupidity of the british middle classes! Cruelly forgetting the shambles that is UMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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