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Kinnear looking to bring two decent players in before the deadline, Ryan Taylor at SJP in a Newcastle squad tracksuit

Ant, take your Irish blinkers off, Given is walking out on us during our darkest hour, that is the simple truth.

TEAMS NUFC: Steve Harper, Fabricio Coloccini, Jose Enrique, Sebastien Bassong, Steven Taylor, Nicky Butt ©, Kevin Nolan, Jonas Gutierrez, Damien Duff, Andy Carroll, Shola Ameobi Subs: Xisco, Geremi, Peter Lovenkrands, David Edgar, Kazenga LuaLua, Tim Krul, Ryan Donaldson SAFC: Marton Fulop, Phil Bardsley, George McCartney, Dean Whitehead ©, Carlos Edwards, Steed Malbranque, Djibril Cisse, Kieran Richardson, Danny Collins, Kenwyne Jones, Anton Ferdinand Subs: Daryl Murphy, Michael Chopra, Grant Leadbitter, Dwight Yorke, Andy Reid, David Healy, Nick Colgan Referee: Howard Webb

Something along those lines, it kind of takes a shine off the loyalty comments people have made about Given, it's a shame he's not as loyal as Harper.

If memory serves me correctly, didn't Given submit a transfer request when Sir Bobby was in charge after Harper had a run in the starting XI ?

Agreed, its not loyalty when the team are doing ok and we seem to be heading in the right direction, loyalty is when your backs to the fucking wall and you've no way out, if he had stood his ground, that would of been loyal, but hes engineered a move away fuck him! lol when were we doing ok again? seems a distant memory that. sorry but a lot of fickle lads on here "if only he waited till summer!".... 2days of the window left and we've signed who again oh aye kevin nolan, the club are really trying to bail the team out of the shitty water were sitting in now... the vast majority of you wanted rid of him last summer, and the club apparently knocked back approaches and all. no doubt he's had the "look if you'll stay, were going to be doing this and bringing in these people" to which shay/whoever else wants out has said "who the fuck are they?" asides from the fact they wouldn't be signed anyways. sorry this has been long coming and with the manager making a weekly tool of himself in the press, the total lack of backing from the owner and board and results going against us and down at the bottom of the table why would anyone want to stay, least he's not running his contract down to go on a free at the end of the season If he was out of contract in the summer I suspect that's exactly what he would have done. I suspect you are correct Alex.

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"Undisclosed fee" no doubt.

FABRICIO COLOCCINI thought he was heading for a Champions League side in waiting when he quit Spain in the summer. The Argie ace, who had AC Milan and Deportivo La Coruna on his CV, was ready to fight countryman Carlos Tevez and England’s elite. He could not have been much more wrong. Today he will step into the bearpit of North East tribalism with Newcastle’s very future in doubt. Unrest has never been so great. Defeat to fierce rivals Sunderland, for the second time in three months, would plunge Tyneside into anarchy. And Mike Ashley will be there. He was once accused of driving tanks on to rival businesses’ lawns when his sports store empire was on the up. Being bullish made him a billionaire. But Ashley will need one to get out of Newcastle if the club he bought 19 months ago lose with the full wrath of a city in turmoil waiting to explode. Higher Coloccini was supposed to be the wow signing that appeased the fans. Instead, the defender has been left battered, bemused and bewildered by the constant struggle. He was signed largely without Kevin Keegan’s knowledge but that was the least of the surprises that awaited him, as he readily admits: “I thought we would be higher up the table and going for either the Champions League or the UEFA Cup. My thoughts have had to change. We are down the table. “I thought we would be higher in the league. I did not think when I joined that we would be at the bottom. “The change of manager made it more difficult. I was surprised Keegan left because at that moment the team was doing good, we had good results in the league and the Carling Cup. It was a major surprise when he left the club. “What has gone on has made it more difficult but we cannot think about what has happened to the club. We have to think about the football. That is more important. Challenge “Have I considered relegation? We are near the relegation zone. I am aware of that. We have to win the next match to get away from it. It is very important we are getting new players. We have needed them. They will come in and they will help the team. I have played every game. I have not hidden from the challenge.” And there will certainly be no hiding place today. Forget Ruud Gullitt getting his dreadlocks drenched and being booted out for dropping Alan Shearer when Sunderland sang in the rain at St James’ a decade ago. Forget the pitch invasions that followed a play-off defeat in 1990. Ashley back in Toon today could ignite a revolt unprecedented in the Toon Army’s recent history. Tyneside has felt its fair share of despair over the years. But not like this. Not like the swell of fury threatening to explode all over an already powder-keg derby with their fierce rivals as both clubs scrap for their Premier League lives. Trouble Newcastle fans have waited as the transfer clock has ticked — first with anticipation, then with bemusement and now with anger. Only at the death has there been movement, with Kevin Nolan arriving. Even that was sprung after a through-the-night meeting with boss Joe Kinnear that went something along the lines of, ‘Please, please, please, please . . . ’ A senior dressing room figure admitted: “Everyone was put up for sale in August. That caused mistrust. Nobody knew what the future was after that. People started looking for a way out after that. You would though, wouldn’t you?” Two words hang in the Tyneside air like acid rain. Leeds United. Mismanagement and overpaid players were part of their dramatic demise. That is what Newcastle fans now fear. Pressure Kinnear wrestles with the hand he has been dealt with, just as Keegan did before. No Newcastle manager has had the double done over them by Sunderland in more than 40 years. “I might look relaxed on the outside but that’s not how I feel on the inside,” he said. “I’m anything but. It’s tough. The pressure is on me. It’s make-or-break time for me. We’re under-strength. They’ll fancy their chances. “This is the one game I really want to win. It could do my future the world of good. This is the most turmoil I have worked in. I won't deny that, but I want to be a winner. Whatever comes, I have to take it.”

How about a G1 ? they are dog ugly but review very well. Ps I wouldn't go near a Sony Ericsson again.

Apparently if you sign up using this code: SALE140068031301, you get SKY+ free and free installation.

He has romped with gorillas, turned his back on grizzly bears and found himself knee-deep in suffocating bat dung. After decades of getting to know the furthest-flung corners of the world – and its inhabitants – Sir David Attenborough has vented his ire on the Bible for promoting the belief that man has complete dominion over the Earth. Sir David, probably the best-loved broadcaster and certainly the most distinguished television naturalist, has blamed the Book of Genesis for many environmental problems, from the burning down of tropical rainforests to the extinction of species. On the eve of a BBC1 documentary on the life of Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution, Sir David has criticised the centuries-old idea running through the Judaeo-Christian tradition which assumes God gave the Earth to man to exploit and use in whatever way he saw fit in order to populate the world. Sir David, 82, said the devastation of the environment has its roots in the first words that God supposedly uttered to humankind, as detailed in Genesis 1:28: "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." An atheist raised in an academic, non-religious family, Sir David said Genesis peddled untruths about how animals and plants appeared on earth and was also at the root of why there was now serious environmental degradation due to the greedy overexploitation of the earth's natural resources. "The influence of the Book of Genesis, which says the Lord God said 'go forth and multiply' to Adam and Eve and 'the natural world is there for you to dominate', [is that] you have dominion over the animals and plants of the world," Sir David said. "That basic notion, that the world is there for us and if it doesn't actually serve our purposes, it's dispensable, that has produced the devastation of vast areas of the land's surface. "Of course it's a gross oversimplification, but that's why Darwinism, and the fact of evolution, is of great importance because it is that attitude which has led to the devastation of so much, and we are in the situation that we are in," he told the science journal Nature. In tomorrow's documentary, Charles Darwin and the Tree of Life, Sir David does not mention the Bible directly but there is an oblique reference to its influence in his concluding statements about the important principles of evolution encapsulated by Darwin in his 1859 book, On the Origin of Species. "Darwin's great insight revolutionised the way in which we see the world ... But above all Darwin has shown us that we are not apart from the natural world – we do not have dominion over it. We are subject to its laws and processes, as are all the other animals on earth to which indeed we are related." Sir David has received hate mail from viewers upset that he does not give God credit in his nature programmes and some correspondence from creationists makes him angry. "Evolution is not just a theory, as many a correspondent writes to me and says. It is a historical fact like any other historical fact and as certain as William the Conqueror landing in 1066, except it's more certain because the evidence for it comes from a much wider range of fact," Sir David said. "All we have to tell us about William are a few bits of paper here or there – not very much at all. For evolution, we have much more evidence," he said.

Not dead then ?

This tbh

Talk to Ritchie, he's got a Blackberry and will no doubt have plenty to say about them

To record a SKY+ recording to a DVD recorder you would have to record the playback in realtime IE record as it plays so essentially you could pause your recording to your hearts content. As for video output you'd be better off using one of these: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/part...IDEO+SENDER.htm With this you could send video wirelessly to another room obviously without cables. Not sure what the capacity of SKY+ hard drives are these days, they used to be 40gig which was good for 20hrs of recording.

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I've got a Touch and it has really got me tempted to get an iPhone, having mobile data access to all those apps really sets it apart in my opinion.

Google's search service has been hit by technical problems, with users unable to access search results. For a period on Saturday, all search results were flagged as potentially harmful, with users warned that the site "may harm your computer". Users who clicked on their preferred search result were advised to pick another one. Google says it is unclear what caused the problem, which is now resolved, but that it will make a statement later. "There was a fault. We don't know the nature of it yet. Everything has been solved. We are still making initial enquiries, " a Google spokesperson told BBC News.

I wouldn't want the club to risk a penny on him, might be worth a gamble as a loan signing, there is no evidence at all that he has the potential to cut it in English football.

Does having skyplus cost any more on your monthly package with sky ? I think they are free to new subscribers, not sure about existing users How many TV's can be run off a skyplus system - at present we have an upstairs and a downstairs TV running from the skybox. Most have two outputs but if not you could use a wireless video sender Relative to the above question - if you record on the skyplus hard disk, can you watch it on the upstairs TV and copy it onto another DVD recorder which is upstairs (important requirement) You can record SKY+ recordings to a DVD recorder if you connect your SKY+ signal to a DVD recorder

SKY+ is genuinely one of the best things you could invest in, the only minus is that you can't share recordings, but the best combination is SKY+ and a DVD recorder, then if there are any recordings you want to keep and share you have the option, but if it is one or the other than it is SKY+ every single time, in the words of Timmy Mallet "its what your telly was made for"

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