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Gullit and Dalglish each came closer to silverware than Robson so by your rational, they didn't work out bad either. Clutching at straws there. I never said getting close to silverware made those two a success did I? Stick to stats mate Nah, you said it doesn't really matter how it ends. If I spent 5 happy years with a company where they thought I was the dogs bollocks but got sacked I'd say it didn't "work out". If I left of my own accord, then I'd say it did. Can't be arsed arguing the semantics like. You took it one way, I took it another.

Not just being argumentative here, but we've heard it before. Any club who previously had a brief flirtation with the top 6 could say the same. Some Leeds fan was saying we're just like them the other day. Now it's Blackburn. Next it'll be Norwich and then Wolverhampton Wanderers or Preston North End. These days it takes a special manager a lot of money to maintain the level of success lots of teams have briefly had. Like lots of other teams, when both of those aren't available we've dropped off. It's not been a complete collapse, it's been 5 years in the making.

tbf we still haven't lost as many games as we did last season. ...or as many as you did in '99

Gullit and Dalglish each came closer to silverware than Robson so by your rational, they didn't work out bad either.

....except Keegan left us leagues ahead of where he found us and wasn't sacked. That some strict criteria you've got there btw. We rapidly went downhill after KK left, albeit his side saw us to 2nd that season (the two seasons after were poor masked by cup runs). I know we were 17th when Robson was sacked but I'd judge him on his PL finishes and I'd say we were better off than when he took us over. That's why I'd argue it went well overall. And I don't see how the way the manager left i.e. KK walking and SBR getting sacked makes the former better than the latter. If anything the former was far more devastating at the time. It was devastating to lose Keegan because he'd worked out so well. His employers and all the fans were happy, but he chose to walk with his head high than tread water. It wasn't so devastating with Robson because the majority wanted him out including the people who sacked him for not working out. I've agree'd from the start it went well overall, but i don't think Quinn had the time to go into the subtelties of all the caveats behind it going tits up in the end.

....except Keegan left us leagues ahead of where he found us and wasn't sacked.

He was sacked leaving the club 17th. No manager sacked since has left us lower have they? I take your point though, he worked out well in most other ways. after how many games that season???? 4 wasn't it....what a load of shite Whatever your thoughts on Robson, it didn't work out. 99% of the blame for that sits with Freddie Shepherd....but it didn't work out well in the end. If a capable manager had been appointed after Robson got the boot, the good work he'd done might have continued. But they weren't.

He was sacked leaving the club 17th. No manager sacked since has left us lower have they? I take your point though, he worked out well in most other ways.

.com match report....

Going to have my tea with him tonight. He was right like.

Is Bentdner dropped this weekend? On the one hand he's running around pantless in London nightclubs hours after being knocked out of the champions league. On the other he got a brace last weekend. What will Wenger do?

It's not inconcievable we could stay up on goal difference just by winning one game. Thats heavily reliant on Hull fucking up big time though. A win and a draw and they're probably safe. We could do it without winning a game or scoring a goal....which is looking likely tbh. 3 nil nil draws. Howay the lads.

Wonder if they'll pay us back with their profits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/08/opinion/...ugman.html?_r=1 Krugman agrees with me

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8039096.stm "Please sir, can we have some more?"

I still don't believe the majority will be happy carrying a laptop or whatever reading device they come up with onto the underground with them.

Credit crunch explained in handy cartoon format.... http://vimeo.com/3261363

Coach Krupt

Terry's claiming they should have had 7 penalties now... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8038054.stm It'll be 27 by the time the final comes around.

Northerners eat more fried food and pastry. Fatty ballatties.... The long and short of women in the UK THE NORTH Average height: 5ft 4in (163cm) Average weight: 11st (69.8kg) Average waist: 33in (84cm) Average hip: 41in (104cm) Average bra size: 34B SCOTLAND Average height: 5ft4in Average weight: 10st 3lb Average waist: 31.5in Average hip: 40in Average bra size: 34B LONDON AND THE SOUTH-EAST Average height: 5ft 4in Average weight: 10st 10lb Average waist: 32in Average hip: 41in Average bra size: 34C MIDLANDS AND WALES Average height: 5ft 3in Average weight: 11st Average waist: 32.5in Average hip: 41.5in Average bra size: 34B

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I'm still bored.

The problem hasn't been spending what we have. It's been not spending what we haven't.