Rayvin

I honestly dread to think what transpires with this and Ukraine if Trump wins - as it's starting to sound like he may.

Iran are along way from saints in all this either frankly. Not good news at all. Does Iran actually think it can handle Israel though..?

You know.. I think I'd take that. It has the added benefit of making a mockery of the whole system.

I don't know that either, really am coming up short in life ffs..

I only got 22 so don't feel too bad Was never very strong on trivia in general.

Is that date noted when he started following it? That's some commitment.

I didn't mean literally ffs I forgot that was even a feature tbh, does anyone use that?

So this thread has stats and people ripping the piss, both with and without stats. This is going to be a good thread. I do appreciate the effort that goes into it anyway though Dave, will follow it

That article makes sense and explains a lot. It's so convincing that it makes me wonder why Hope works for the Mail at all.

Completely support both the point and the anger with which it was delivered.

It's just vindictive. Which I will concede a lot of people in the hard left are.

Gloom is literally in this thread two pages back saying that he's dismayed that despite thinking that this is what would happen, it hasn't. People on here were definitely saying this man Labour were saying nothing whatsoever, I'll give you that.

For what it's worth, I don't agree with the hard left approach on the Gaza situation - it's too tribal when it should be focused on the best solution for all people. So yeah I agree with you on this.

Understood - and thanks. Why are the members supporting their union in making that play (the first one)? As you say, it seems pointless.

This is of course what they think they're doing too. Anyway look, I dunno why I've waded into this - it never achieves anything. I apologise and will go back to steering clear of this thread.

Steady on princess, you're officially on the left of me based on that conversation the other week. You came flying out of the blocks at Labour, I didn't.

Actually I'd find that quite interesting if you can be bothered, especially the trade union one. I'm genuinely always open to improving my outlook with relevant information.

I mean I was told on here for years in the run up to this that Labour were keeping their cards close to their chest, that they were saying what they had to do in order to win, but that them winning would be transformative. That they just said what they needed to say to win, but they'd do untold good once in power. I knew it was bollocks, so I'm not surprised and am actually judging them as fairly as I can do given that I never believed any of that shit to start with, but I think what the left are doing is making clear to people that this notion was a lie. Besides, you don't even care what the left are saying. They're holding power to account as best they can, just view them as a counter balance to the right wing noise. It's not hurting anything.

I do view it from the other side tbh as I said beforehand - if people like myself are literally never calling out for things we want, how is anyone to know that there is demand for it? I honestly don't see what the harm in people voicing their opinions is, especially now that Labour have won and you've got everything you wanted for the next few years. Tbh mate, you likely even agree with 99% of everything they believe in. So you don't even have a philosophical difference on this, we just have a situation where you've accepted that this is the best we can get, and they haven't.

I see you woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning. Back to the naive line again - for the record I've not once accepted that particular attribute, it seems to be something said by middle aged left leaning centrists to justify their jaded "best we can get" approach to politics. The fact that a lot of the things the 'naive left' want in this country seem to be implemented elsewhere in the world quite easily are of course just the exceptions that prove the rule. "We're a small c conservative country, it's not possible here, blah blah blah..."

I'm still reserving judgement. There have been things I've appreciated (strikes, quick handling of riots etc) and things I'm wary of (this does sound like the beginnings of a return to austerity to me) but I'm prepared to wait and see. I do wonder though, when in your mind is the right time for anyone of a left leaning persuasion to start making demands about what we want to see? It wasn't before the election because 'the priority was getting the Tories out' and it's not now either? I guarantee it won't be at the next GE either.

I just hope someone manages to find a way to peace somehow before it becomes a full scale regional war. I hope Harris has some ideas on this tbh, I suspect it'll be her main foreign relations focus in year 1.

I read wacky's comment first. Immediately fucking panicked. Laptop nearly went out the window. And then read up 3 comments and yep, classic TT bollocks. My heart doesn't need this shit ffs.

Musk's daughter has been amazing at taking him to task recently. They've been no contact for a few years since he decided that her being trans was bad for his image and started making all sorts of claims about her.