Rayvin

I've seen some people saying it would be a useful way for them to attack the Working From Home crowd too, which would be a concern.

I would take them away, yes. Why on earth are a bunch of children dictating how to run our society? If we say their phones are being taken away, what are they going to do about it? If we care about this issue so much (we don't) then that should be the first port of call. Ultimately Andrew is right about why this is happening, but even if you believe it's all about porn and access to it, there is no reason that wider society should have to risk what it is being asked to risk, in order to do this. (And indeed, children are being denied access to valuable resources in the process of this - though in fairness they likely would be under ISP level bans as well). As for VPNs yes, I had one anyway - but I daresay they'll come for those in the end too because they're making a mockery of the whole law as it stands.

Why not have families with children compelled to note with ISPs so that the blocks can be put in place automatically? It's still a privacy issue but a far smaller one than what we have, and it only affects the relevant people. Plus it would only go to companies who already have your data anyway. I would argue social media is the thing that gives rise to Adolescence btw, not porn. Or if porn does have a stake in that, it's a very minor one relative to SM. You could strike a significant blow against all of that by taking away their phones....

Blocking at ISP level doesn't risk your data, it just inconveniences you in terms of access to porn. Your data is at much at risk as mine now is because of this stupid law, but if parents would manage this properly, no one's data would be at risk.

I mean true - you can argue it's about government assaults on anonymity, but I feel like if you go to that level people detach from it, whereas you keep it on porn and everyone has a stake

Do you not think you are trying to have your cake and eat it here? The rest of us must suffer not to protect your children, but so that you can still have access to porn. Why do I have to risk my data being leaked across the internet for that? At the very least, you should be able to understand why this annoys me. I mean you got your way in the end, but I feel very entitled to be mad about the fact that I am bearing a cost so that you can have it both ways.

It is worth pointing out that this ban has also blocked access to a lot of resources for suicide prevention, help for drinking related issues and sexual abuse centres for children, that kind of thing. We really are the single stupidest country in the world most of the time, we half arse literally everything we do because we're led by people who don't have the first fucking clue how anything works. But yes, I am on the side of porn. I mean I have my VPN, and if they come for that, I'll just go to the next thing - probably a VPS. But either way, it annoys me that they're even trying this.

No, I would prefer that parents take one for the team and block at household level, rather than impose this nonsense on the rest of us, actually. That feels like a sacrifice that parents should make for their children, rather than have the rest of us risk our data being sold to US corporations, and then inevitably leaked all over the internet.

What is stopping you or any other parent implementing parental controls? You can do that at ISP level and get the same outcome as this bill is forcing on everyone else. Parents not bothering to do that is why the rest of us are having to risk US companies harvesting our data. I'm sorry, but it is indeed negligence. The tools are there to at least match this nonsense in functional outcome and have been for some time.

"Labour take the side of negligent parents and data harvesters over freedom"

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/uk-households-could-face-vpn-32152789 Labour backbencher suggests the government will need to crack down on VPNs This could get so ugly for them.

The new management structure coming in is an ideal time for a relationship reset, especially if broken promises form part of his issue. I agree it's unlikely but if there was any realistic single event that would turn this around at this point, it's that.

On reflection, the VPN would have gotten around this too. It's almost like we just need parents to do their damn jobs... Or ban mobile phones under the age of 18.

I genuinely don't understand why they couldn't have mandated all ISPs to block adult content unless phoned by the account holder or something like that. It would have done far more than this.

This wouldn't hugely surprise me based on what we've seen but would be staggering based on competent governance.

https://x.com/alanvibe/status/1949715922115076142 1800% increase in VPN usage in the UK.. Meanwhile, Farage has come out claiming he'll repeal it

I thought we were going to have a good window too tbh, I'm stunned at how badly it's gone. I was at least as confident as Gemmill was.

This summer window is absolutely breaking us

Yeah discord isn't spared. Nowhere is safe from the prying eyes of the UK government...

Have to be honest, I also don't rate Ramsdale...

I badly hope the incoming CEO sorts this shit out.

Pathetic from the EU. Woeful, in fact. Germany urgently needs to get its fucking act together and recognise that no one else is going to lead the EU if it's not them.

It's just getting so boring now. Doesn't even feel like these other teams are scouting these players themselves, just chasing around after us.

If he stays then the club needs to address it somehow, it can't all just revert to normal. That said, I think we must be fairly sure that Liverpool are about to put a bid in given how we're acting in the market.

He seems fairly annoyed I have to say. Especially about the Isak situation which I suspect must be hurting him on some level.