Rayvin

I mean people have been getting on each other's case more and more lately and believe it or not, some of that hasn't even involved Dougle. Just think we could do with chilling a bit.

As shit as this window, this situation with Isak, and the wider nonsense of this club has been lately - can we all please just try to remember that we've co-existed on here for years and generally get along pretty well? It's no surprise that we have these little feuds popping up all over the place with how this summer is going, but howay man - let's try to be kind to each other. We all know there's a difference between banter and being cruel. This goes in all directions IMO. Clearly we're all very emotional right now

Works for me..! I feel like Neoliberalism is a state level construct, it's not like the European Parliament is mandating that countries privatise their shit. That's something that we seemed to be doing on our own.

Whether he's worth it or not, this Sesko transfer needs to be the line in the sand for us. If we get beaten on this then there's really no redeeming this summer. We absolutely cannot be fucked over at every turn anymore, it's going to knock everyone's faith in the project. We need to actually make a fucking statement here.

I mean I'd just take us back into the EU and service it through temporary migration from Eastern European countries in much the same way we were operating pre-Brexit. It's not a complete answer, but it's an answer. Also Neoliberalism has no answer for this anyway, so changing that hardly sets us back. Neoliberalism is concerned with the transfer of state assets to the private sector, it's doing nothing to mitigate the demographic problem. Releasing the burden on young people so they actually have futures worth having children within, might.

Agree. I will wait and see how they set up but this is something that needs to happen if it can be done well. Neoliberalism needs to die.

I think what we should take from this is that a lot of people in the Reform camp are just absolutely desperate for something to change. Corbyn might even take numbers off them by providing that kind of change in a way that isn't so toxic. We live in hope?

This is also just funny. All that effort to seduce them and they prefer Corbyn.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62j2gr8866o Wikipedia is taking legal action over the OSA which, if it fails, will presumably see Wikipedia banned in the UK. This is all so worth it. Spotify now running age verification because listening to bad words is also a problem apparently.

What the fuck is this mind Fucking hell... just talk to people like adults ffs, why bother with stupid little warning systems. If we had something like this we'd have no members left.

True, though apparently phone data has this lock on by default now, presumably for this reason. But yes, VPNs will bypass all of this anyway as you say.

I've mentioned elsewhere online that I support a certain domestic "terrorist" organisation that endorses Palestine which, I believe, makes me a terrorist per current legislation. Terrorist Saville supporter..! I bet I can get far left extremist added to that over the course of the government term as a consequence of advocating for something like affordable housing. I won't mention the terrorist group here though as I'm not convinced that the Ofcom wouldn't immediately shut the place down.

This is what we've been reduced to...

Some good points and some not so good ones. The bit where he's going on about how PSR doesn't stop you improving training grounds or stadiums or whatever... yeah it doesn't. But it's noticeable that the conversations around that dried up earlier in the year likely when someone decided it wasn't something that made sense to advance with Eales about to go. I go into businesses all the time to oversee the implementation of significant structural changes to business workflows, and I am yet to see any such business carry out such work while undergoing serious changes to the leadership team. PIF are not involved in the day to day running of the club so who exactly at the club has the sufficient level of understanding of how everything operates to be able to spearhead that? We need the executive sorted. Where he's right is around how long this has taken them - maybe they've gone for Eddie's approach and sought 'the right person' rather than the quick, one, in which case we should be well served by the outcome. We can't say until we see the guy in action.

I don't know exactly about banning, but one of the backbenchers has been on this particular point for a while now and raised it again with the OSA coming into force - Kyle has come out and said he's not banning VPNs as he believes there are other routes to force compliance or something like that. I'm not sure what it means really. If it remains a small minority I doubt they do anything and just call it a win in present form.

Oh. Shit, well then fair enough. Still nothing we can do about it either way then I suppose. What a pity.

One thing I hadn't realised was that Trafford turned us down in the end. We had the same bid in that City did and he chose them. There's not a lot we can do with that being the case, I get why it happened. Maybe if we'd moved last summer but there's a part of me that thinks this was just never going to happen. Ramsdale I am softening on a bit - a lot of Arsenal fans seem to think he was really very good, so perhaps he is actually going to be an asset.

I've just learned that Labour believe that anyone who wants to overturn the OSA is on the side of predators. I can now add that to my list of things Labour believe about me that are completely insane, along with 'terrorist sympathiser' and a 'betrayer'.

Tbf, to state it plainly - I do think steps need to be taken to support parents in combating online dangers to children. I personally would advocate for a full scale ban on social media for people under 18, so I can't exactly hold that view and also suggest that it should all be left to parents. I think far more work needs to be done to deal with what young boys are seeing on tiktok and similar platforms, which is shaping their views of women in the absence of voices from genuine and good men. I think the entire issue should be deal with very seriously, through things like an initiative around talking to boys in a way that centres the value of growing into an emotionally mature and compassionate individual for themselves (rather than suggesting we need to do this for any other group's benefit), and work around teaching them why it is important to safeguard them from harmful content, rather than just banning it and yelling at them. I think for young people in general far more work should be done to encourage critical thinking in media consumption from all sides of the aisle - none of which really has anything to do with parents. So yes, it's not really on parents to overturn the festering mess that we've made of society. But that said, I still feel that implicating the rest of us in nonsense like this is not doing anyone any favours.

I often feel like it's almost a different sport given how little I care about it, but then I remember that I feel largely the same way about men's international football too.

Christ man, if you'd said that right from the start I'd have probably just said "Fair enough but we need something better than this". That's a waste of an hour or so... I only put the parent stuff in because I'm venting about it really, it's not actually the parents fault that the government thinks they're too feckless to do their jobs properly

Yeah fair point, but at least with those bigger entities you're somewhat less likely to end up exposed in some sort of leak - or if it does happen there's a stronger collective response. Some of these identity checkers you might never even hear about it...

I mean Why are you supporting this bill if you're just bypassing it in the same way everyone else is anyway? If they took VPNs out of the picture would you hand your data over to sketchy American companies, or just stop using porn? Genuine question on that one tbh.

Well they're claiming that "90% of the UK is operating in good faith with the new measures" which I think is probably translatable to "90% of the UK are technologically illiterate or have no interest in porn". I cannot imagine anyone at all wanting to hand their data over to random US companies - we're not even monitoring who these companies are ffs, we're leaving it in the hands of each individual site to decide who they use and "trusting" they'll do the right thing.

I've seen some people saying it would be a useful way for them to attack the Working From Home crowd too, which would be a concern.