Renton

SOmebody should ask this bitch what's the good of heating homes once your home is repossessed. Also, her constant implicit criticism of the BoE is not going to end well. I am genuinely getting concerned by their denials and delusion.

The sight of Coffet nodding like an obese mastif behind her makes me physically sick. I literally cannot believe she is younger than me, not even 50 years old. What an advert for the NHS.

She's a Buddhist? I hope she's reincarnated as Trump's tapeworm.

Well, to add to the cheery news I've heard that the billions lost due to the mini budget fiasco, which the cunts are still doubling down on, might effectively mean we have to work an extra 2 years to receive the same pension. So far, its clear its only getting worse.

Can anyone think what thing may have happened to the UK which didn't to the rest of the G7? And predicted -0.7% "growth" next year, seems the oven ready economic pie is shrinking.

That was fast, deleted my post. Gemmill, I gave you 2 like again for your post but I've sorted it out now. 1 like is all you're getting.

Well this is depressing. But in the context I'm talking about (public health messaging) I think you're wrong. Covid showed it. Very little fuss about mask wearing or vaccination other than a few nutters. Wasn't politicised like the US. Maybe we will end up in that particular hell hole but I think our mindset is still different, and most people recognise and want to contribute to the public good.

It took a global externality and some bad luck though. Of course, these are almost guaranteed in the scheme of things, now more than ever. Other than that I fully agree with both you and Scoobos here.

Good point.

This extreme liberatarianism she (Truss) is pushing is something else like. We're not the US, it won't work here. Edit: I've just let it sink in COffey is the health secretary. Can you imagine if we had had these nutters two years ago? They actually make Johnson look good.

They've completely abandoned the cenrtre ground and the notion of one nation conservatism. All the "decent" tories have been expelled. The centre ground is there for Labour to take, and as long as they don't mutate like the tories did, stay there.

Maybe but there is a tipping point where this just will not be feasible. If they go down to double figures in MPs (very possible imo) they'll not be able to come back from that.

With the intention on blaming Labour next term you mean? I don't think that will work, they've fucked things up too early in plain sight.

Doubling down still until the inevitable U turn. Continuing on with the "coalition of anti-growth" rhubarb. This would be hilarious were it not for the damage its doing the country.

Of course no PM can survive losing their chancellor in this way, Truss is fucked. The sooner she fucks off, the better.

My guess, he seemed to really enjoy his 2 weeks of being Chancellor over the summer.

That's rubbish, because we'll have loads of growth, growth, growth and the economic pie would become huge if only doubters like you would start believing.

Surely a U turn on this magnitude has to end the government now? They are clearly not able to govern.

No, Harman! I'll be honest, my memory of this time is hazy and I'd reather just forget anyway.

Yeah, he was just another posh boy playing with the country ultimately. As much a shit house as @The Fish. But Brexit was well and truly downstream of this. Just looked back though on wiki and what I had forgotten was Labour had committed themselves to a referendum on Europe as well and Parliament over-whelmingly voted for it, with only the SNP opposing. As soon as Cameron put it on the manifesto the course was set.

I don't think it was really viable though, stability wise, and it was arguably undemocratic. But that's yet again a symptom of the system which isn't fit for purpose.

Brown was a better man than Blair. He had to contend with the financial crash and a dodgy mic though. Labour under Ed Miliband didn't have the numbers to make a coalition with Clegg. Clegg did get the AV vote through which was better than nothing, but then, the English electorrate.

No, we wouldn't have had a referendum if David Miliband had won the leader of Labour. The scenario would have never happened. But if it did, I still believe Labour under Miliband would have had enough for Remain to win. Corbyn was an assest for Leave.

Let's just agree and blame Fish, the Pimm's drinking shit house twat.