Makom

Says the guy who was adamant Burnley didn't go down because of their strikeforce. That's the sort of shite that belongs on blogs nobody reads.

Aye, that reminds me. Changing my username to makom as revenge for daring to point out footballing reality. Now that is some hilarious non-boring non-cuntish activity right there. Oh how I aspire to such greatness.

I find gifs and childish insults boring, and a quite a few posters here certainly bore the fuck out of me with their 'he's a mackem' nonsense, yet you don't hear me complaining. Each to their own I say.

Fuck off yourself you Blyth supporting Ashley's todger guzzling super cunt. The Blyth connection should have tipped me off, you're either just jealous of NUFC, or you genuinely think it must be a thrill ride to be owned by a billionaire and be in the PL. Reality check for the lower league boys like yourself: it's really not. Frankly, NUST must be onto something if they're being lampooned by a fuckwit like you.

I can't say I did bother. I took no real interest in the game yesterday, other than to hope we went down. Any sense of celebration I had for Jonas was completely wiped out by the instant realisation of what it meant - more Ashley. People expecting him to invest, to get it right this time, or even believing the only way he'd sell is if we're in the PL, are completely deluding themselves. Blind hope can be the only thing underpinning that, because Ashley is a proven liar and the people he has trusted football matters to are also proven incompetents. And people are seriously clutching at some pretty desperate straws if they're genuinely celebrating finishing above the mackems without adding the huge caveat that it's only funny because we've been so astoundingly shit - at which point, like I said, all they need do is point out the derby record under Ashley's NUFC, and we're back to looking like what we are under Ashley, a shadow of the club which used to easily beat them in derbies as well as routinely besting them in the league. It's beyond me how anyone can take any enjoyment out of it, but they mist do, as they keep turning up in their thousands to watch the shite. And do Hull really now have less of a chance of being sold now they went down? Clearly not - their owner knows he's not wanted, and now he knows he's going to have to pump more money in to get back to the PL, so this will only make it more likely he will sell. How would it be any different for Ashley? There's not a single shred of reality to the theory that staying in the PL makes it more likely that he will sell. Why would he? He is here to collect the TV money, and to a lesser extent the money of the people who keep turning up to support him.

Fair point. But the irony is that the only way Scotland is ever likely to win an indy ref any time soon is if the rest of the UK votes to leave the EU.

By bye boro. Shame you didn't turn up.

So it was. My apologies to all involved.

Yes, well, thanks again for your excellent and well thought out input. It's like the PR debate all over again.

My point was that he was giving me shit for being an armchair critic, and then suddenly it turns out he's never given Ashley any money for the past two years either. So, either he's an armchair fan just like me, or he's getting his enjoyment of our wonderful PL football on someone else's ticket.

I'm pretty sure you would have won independence if your referendum had been run under the same rules.

You're just pissed off that you couldn't convince me that PR was more democratic than FPTP by simply calling me an idiot.

And also, if you could clarify this point too - if you haven't given Ashley money for the past two years, where did you actually see Jonas' goal yesterday, if it wasn't from your armchair?

I never told anyone they shouldn't celebrate Jonas' goal, that's just a lie you made up as you backtracked the fuck away from your original post. So, to clarify, what is it that you're celebrating that I am apparently being a killjoy by telling you not to? Is it really Jonas' goal, is it finishing above the mackems (which was the actual issue being discussed before you jumped in), or is it that we stayed in the Premier League (which was what you actually said)?

These jokers need to get their act together - there's some good points in there that deserve to be highlighted in a clear and cogent way to the media - but the fact they've hidden them in a rambling 'letter' written more for the fans benefit just makes it less likely they will be picked up and ran with.

These jokers need to get their act together - there's some good points in there that deserve to be highlighted in a clear and cogent way to the media - but the fact they've hidden them in a rambling 'letter' written more for the fans benefit just makes it less likely they will be picked up and ran with.

2-0 after 15 mins. Romping it.

Good for you mate. I hope you really enjoy next season, and the season after that, and however many more there will be before we inevitably go down. Some of us long ago realised that NUFC simply being in the top league is nothing to celebrate, not with Ashley at the helm. He's killing this club, and it's people like you who have helped him do it.

That's your delusion. I'm merely recalling the times when we used to regularly beat the mackems in the derby, as well as always finishing above them as a matter of course. Now all of a sudden only achieving the latter, and by the tiniest of margins, is somehow a cause for great celebration. And no, I haven't gone to the game in years - unlike some I choose to protest against Ashley in the only way he understands.

The horse & cart metaphor alone showed Ashley was either trolling or is just a complete incompetent. Obviously he was wanting to say that you can't put the cart before the horse, but it conveniently omits the fact he only adopted that strategy after numerous earlier failures. Yet now we supposedly have the cart, we're now going to kick on by bolting on.....a cart horse?

Come on you canaries. Always good entertainment (for opponents), and the PL can never have enough mad Scottish managers.

10th. For Palace that's an awesome result, at least equivalent to us finishing top 4. I'd say he's now bullet proof for at least next season, even if they avoid relegation on goal difference.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32734819 Given this, it's fitting then that while they both scored a goal in their last games, Gerrard's was a miserable consolation in a collapsing Liverpool side he failed to inspire to victory, while Lampard's was a trademark match winning goal in a side full of world beaters.

Can't argue with that assessment. He was either trolling, or rose to Keegan's bait, or was shitting his pants about relegation, or was deluded enough to think that having been silent after all this time that speaking up now would work in his favour with the fans/media (and if it was meant for the fans, why wait until 10 mins before the game, when none of them will have heard it?). Whatever the motive, I suspect he began regretting having opened his mouth as soon as we were safe, because while he might be able to ignore the fans, the media at least now have a very big stick to beat him with should it turn out that things don't change very much going forward.

My point is, this is a pretty early test for Ashley's supposed new dawn - a club making its own luck won't be hanging around to appoint the next manager. I suspect that we will simply waste most of the summer fannying around, as we supposedly chase whichever candidate Lee Ryder says we're after, before we finally end up with McLaren just because he's cheap, desperate, and nobody else wants the fucker, proving conclusively that there was nothing behind Ashley's comment, and it's just business as usual.