Makom

I fixed your post Ray mate. Come on people, relegation is the only acceptable outcome today. Stay strong.

Tonnotl represents everything that is wrong with NUFC fans. He should to fuck off back to his natural home, Newcastle-Online.

Rattled. Translation: please buy a season ticket for next year, please! Fuck off Mike.

You have no idea whether they could have negotiated better terms or not, you're just claiming they could have to support the nonsense idea that they somehow suffered a personal punishment for being relegated. They clearly didn't. Beye went to Villa because he was that standard of player, that didn't magically change once we were relegated. Anyone who thinks he got a worse contract than if he'd left in January is simply deluding themselves. Likewise, there will be no appreciable difference in where Janmaat et al will be able to go, should the worse happen tomorrow. And god knows why you're even mentioning Ings - Burnley went down because they failed to score enough goals. On what planet does that become a good argument for allowing their strike-force to leave for another PL club?

Don't fucking read it then you spanner. I know it's unusual for Toontastic, but I'd say people discussing the ins and outs of footballers contracts is EXACTLY what you'd expect to find in thread on a football forum titled "Footballers Wages".

From my experience of it, I had assumed the first rule of Toontastic fight club was you had to own a caravan. Not worth fighting if there's no prize at stake, right?

He grew Sports Direct from nothing. You just don't do that unless you're obsessive about detail. I don't doubt he's hands off regards the running NUFC, but not to the point of laxity you're describing. It'd say the directors will definitely be working under strict and detailed edicts - I'd imagine Charnley has very strict guidelines for what he can and can't spend and negotiate (to the point of probably being told the over/under), and I doubt that there is anything like the sort of flexibility in the management that you'd need to be able to decide how many coaches to employ in the academy.

Could Beye, Martins, Owen, Duff etc have got better clubs? I seriously doubt it.

How very dare you. That's worse than being accused of being a mackem.

'it's not going to work' or variations thereof.

If Arsenal want Tiote, he's going there whether we get relegated or not. That's just football reality. Players only end up at Stoke if they're only good enough for Stoke, it really has nothing to do with whether or not they have relegations on their CV.

Well, if the general reaction to the sit-in plan is anything like what I've heard on the ground, I suggest the militants concentrate on stopping the stewards opening the gates, and padlocking them firmly shut.

Sorry, but I'm not having it. Having a slightly weaker hand in negotiating your next PL contract is nothing like what would happen in the real world to people in normal jobs who had as much of a hand in their company failing as arguably 20+ appearance players do in a relegation season. This nonsense is also pretty much ignoring the fact that Premier League contracts have been on a massive inflationary curve anyway, so any weakened position will only slightly decrease what is already a huge increase. To call it a punishment or performance penalty is utter nonsense, in the PL era players probably have a bigger penalty over their career by simply having a shit agent than anything performance related.

And if Burnley players played their hearts out and were PL standard players, then they wouldn't have been relegated, would they? Only an idiot rewards a player's honest effort with a position beyond their evident ability.

I only said Owen was likely to be on ridiculous money, and therefore the only one out of those who was actually likely to have suffered a pay cut (but still joined a Premier League club). You appear to be inventing the claim that Duff/Martins were on inflated wages (or are otherwise claiming without any proof to know what their terms were) just to support your nonsense idea that somehow leaving the Premier League club you help get relegated to go to another PL club/the Bundesliga Champions is somehow a punishment. It's beyond ridiculous.

Not half as much as you struggle with standing by your own words. But fine, if we're to really believe your reference to neutrals was completely irrelevant to the topic of why you thought NUFC under Carver wouldn't plummet down the table, what else was it that you were basing it on? Blind hope perhaps?

My idea is to copy their idea. If it's good enough for the Chinese, it's good enough for NUFC.

Aye, I'm just trying to stop people losing perspective - no matter how screwed up Ashley's tenure of this club gets, we should never let ourselves get to the point where we're actually envious of the way the idiots down the road are running their small time outfit.

Needs more subtle.

Oh he mentioned it all right, but only to propagate the 'personal choice' bollocks, and of course to point out that he of course had no choice but to attend because of his obligation to keep the people abreast of all things happening at the club.

The 'investment' the mackems put into Advocaat and Defoe had no more intelligence or grand plan behind it than the other decisions that have seen them spunk millions up the wall on repeated false dawns these past few years, as they desperately try to cling onto a position in a league they clearly don't deserve to be in on footballing merit (just like us).

The fuck are you on about? I've said that about 3 times on here. And I'd be careful laughing at those who offer people out on the internet - it's not the sort of thing I'd do, no, but it has already happened to me on here, by an administrator no less. I wouldn't want to see you lose your role for not backing up the management, although it would be one way this place could differentiate itself from NO....

So, The Fish bases his predictions of what's going to happen to NUFC on what the neutrals are saying? That's....not much of a surprise really.

No mention of the sit-in in today's Chronic. Just a load of Lee Ryder's usual shite. It did make the BBC yesterday though. Funny how the BBC website is more up to date with the fans than Lee 'finger on the pulse of NUFC' Ryder. Or maybe after the failure of previous protests to make an impact he's now dropped the pretence and has gone back into full arselick mode?